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Mizzix of the Izmagnus
Legendary Creature — Goblin Wizard
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell with converted mana cost greater than the number of experience counters you have, you get an experience counter.
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Mizzix of the Izmagnus Discussion
1 day ago
If you're going to use only one copy spell I'd suggest using Fork over Reverberate. While they're very similar and neither is strictly better or worse than the other one common scenario Fork has over Reverberate is when copying counter spells and turning them red. This can be significant, because in past times when copying counterspells I've had cards like Red Elemental Blast, Pyroblast, and Guttural Response used to counteract my Reverberate when copying a blue counter spell or draw spell. Most non-blue decks that can run those cards will likely run them more-so than not and Fork bypasses that issue easily when needed.
It seems your meta is thoroughly diverse. Hand and deck disruption can be a strong asset for taking down a combo deck, but I wouldn't consider Praetor's Grasp or Wheel of Fortune strong enough effects since combo decks can always run back-up combos to rely on. What really hits combo is repeatable effects and some of the strongest you could probably run would be Mind Slash and Bottomless Pit which a lot of combo players would find nasty. (Painful Quandary is a close third place and can stop storm decks pretty effectively as well.) Also if you're going up against non-graveyard strategies Mesmeric Orb is a ballistic nightmare in any singleton format it's put in which would be the only effective mill card I'd ever recommend when hurting combo.
Do note graveyard-based combos are a little more resilient to the card suggestions I've given above, but so long as you have something like Rest in Peace and/or Planar Void you can easily avoid this issue without giving them any fuel to burn.
Given your meta I would imagine Torpor Orb would lift a lot of weight for you especially against Purphoros, God of the Forge, Palinchron/Deadeye Navigator, and whatever ETB effects the Muldrotha, the Gravetide deck is probably abusing.
One aspect about blue I've never liked was it's use of counter spells. If you find Reverberate helpful I'd recommend also using cards like Seal of Cleansing, Sinister Concoction, Gate to Phyrexia, Aura Fracture, Aura of Silence, and Umezawa's Jitte. Not only do they serve as good rattlesnake cards that deter your opponents from just putting their bombs on the field, but I've noticed blue decks only hold up counter spell mana on turns they might need it on. If you drop one of these early when they're not ready their counter spells won't be able to stop the card effects, and I can verify from past experiences that the blue players I go up against when using the cards I just mentioned hate them fondly because they know I save them for their combos which makes their job of combo-ing out much more complicated. In fact one card I've found more success with than I'd ever give credit to is Molten Vortex, because the number of utility creatures and win-cons it hits without needing to use prime removal spells is pretty big and as I said before it's another one of those spells that if resolved the blue decks are going to have troubles playing around with. The Vortex can remove Mizzix of the Izmagnus, Laboratory Maniac, Norin the Wary, Hermit Druid, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, etc. and even when I don't have a land to pitch to it I've found it's presence alone is enough to deter plays entirely. Shattering Spree also plays well against blue, because not only can it hit multiple targets, but you can hit the same target twice or three times which would require more than one counter spell to stop a key combo piece being removed if needed.
As for multiple combat steps or a super massive army being swung your way you already can use Ghostly Prison, but if you need more options Norn's Annex can also work as well as Orim's Chant which not only stops combat but can also be used but can also stop storm or certain combos if you cast it at the right moment. It should also be noted that Rule of Law as well as the aforementioned Damping Sphere also does a marvelous job of stopping storm as well. Lastly if your opponents gaining life is an issue I think Rampaging Ferocidon makes a good option, because it can also punish your opponents if they try to build an army, so it fits two functions rather well, and I find the menace handy if you ever need to punch into a super-friends deck.
2 days ago
StopShot, those are really good observations. I always appreciate the feedback.
As for responses, I will first address your question of Aikido. Aikido does not mean not defending yourself against attacks if it would mean disruption of your opponents' efforts. The discussion of ethics is about the most preferable ways to defend yourself. I include spot removal, and that affects board states and plans as well. The highest ethical level in Aikido is to defend oneself while preventing harm to both the attacker and the defender, but it leaves the possibility for defense that harms the attacker if necessary, it is just much less preferable. In the case of storm, you are right in that the board state of storm is the storm count, but no one goes off in storm without the intent to win the game, so defense in this situation can be justified. The alternative is to lose. Preferably, you could Deflecting Palm or Comeuppance an Aetherflux Reservoir for a win of your own, but causing the storm to fizzle is acceptable when you can't end the game yourself. The higher in the ethical hierarchy you play, the better you are, but dipping down to avoid disaster is OK.
I like a lot of your suggestions. As for Vampire Nighthawk, at this point it is sort of a legacy card. I think about removing it every time I consider an alternative. It is in the wincon spot now as an oversight from when I ran Hatred and had several lifelink creatures to go with it. Now it is just a flying rattlesnake. It currently occupies the most likely flex spot, and is in danger of losing it's place. If it is cut, it is likely to be replaced by something more than a simple flying blocker.
Reverberate and Fork have been in the deck in the past. I think you are right in that they function very well in the right meta, and my previous meta was not the right place for them. My new meta may be. The fact that I now face combo and more counterspells means that it will probably function exactly the same way you say. I may trial this in the Vampire Nighthawk slot, probably my revised Fork. The other option I consider for this spot is Praetor's Grasp or Wheel of Fortune. Both can really mess with combo.
As for what combo I face, Karlov of the Ghost Council with Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood, both Mizzix of the Izmagnus and now Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain storm, a new Muldrotha, the Gravetide infinite Villainous Wealth, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight infinite attack phases, Purphoros, God of the Forge Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker shenanigans, Damia, Sage of Stone infinite turns Deadeye Navigator, and Palinchron BS, and probably more. I would say that many decks use combo wincons in addition to other strategies, but there are some that only win with combo, such as the storm and Damia decks.
6 days ago
While I like storm in this deck, I've been avoiding it to try things that are more appropriate for Jodah.
Sentinel Tower and Guttersnipe are both good, and I've considered running Sphinx-Bone Wand, which would work even better. Its a matter of what to adjust in the deck, and if it give me more than what I take out, since none of these change the way you would play the deck.
Mizzix of the Izmagnus is alright, but in my current build, its value is generally less than having my commander on the field. I don't really care about gradually reducing costs.
6 days ago
I would say run some storm cards like Volcanic Awakening, Empty the Warrens, and some others. Copy spells like Bonus Round or nice. You should also run cards that care about casting instant and sorceries (Young Pyromancer, Talrand, Sky Summoner, Guttersnipe, and Sentinel Tower). Cheating out cards during other player's turns is nice too, this can be done through Vedalken Orrery, Leyline of Anticipation. Mizzix of the Izmagnus is also a must. This deck seems like it wants to be an instant and sorcery deck, so if you want some ideas you could check out my deck,
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(Although, keep in mind that the deck needs tuning)
2 weeks ago
Oh my god the Mizzix of the Izmagnus would lose his mind!!!! lol
2 weeks ago
Thought I would mention, I've found Reality Spasm works as good as Turnabout but takes a little more mana to kick-off, doubles chance of drawing the Infinite mana enabler, and can tutor the other half.
Also, as an alternative to Reiterate I also run Nivix Guildmage. As you can imagine, any combination of Turnabout or Reality Spasm + Reiterate or Nivix Guildmage, all work together, increased consistency of drawing into it, or being able to draw some parts and tutor the missing parts. Imperial Recruiter can Tutor Nivix Guildmage so can Muddle the Mixture out of interest, and both work on 3 other creatures (Muddle the Mixture works on any other CMC2 card as well).
Mana Geyser also can go Infinite mana if you play in 4-player pods regularly.
Also with Nivix Guildmage,
If one of the Islands is a Steam Vents you can get Infinite Mana. Built in Tutor as well thanks to Frantic Search. If you don't have High Tide an Izzet Boilerworks gives you the ability to use Frantic Search to Tutor any card, just doesn't give you Infinite Mana, unless you Tutor to your High Tide and cast of course (it's an instant!).
I would recommend Disallow it can handle lots of interactions people need to start their Infinite Combos, maybe delaying them a turn, or solving the issue all together.
Mana Crypt is a nice mana accelerator, quite pricey though, a Fabricate makes a nice Mana Crypt tutor (or possibly Net + with 2 Experience, can be used on a Sol Ring too or Thought Vessel if you need the no maximum hand size for some reason.
Jace, the Mind Sculptor? He's like another Cantrip.
I tried Metallurgic Summonings, I found Docent of Perfection Flip to be more utility, it's secondary ability is good but not great. Some people play Talrand, Sky Summoner, I wouldn't. To be honest, I know it's CMC7 so doesn't make any sense, but Sphinx-Bone Wand wins me games, if I can get any type of Reiterate going it's a win-con. If you have the Blue Sun's Zenith or something in your hand already then ok, but it's like another really bad Guttersnipe.
2 weeks ago
Have to figure out what kind-of combos your looking for, blue can easily Infinite Mana, Infinite Turns, Infinite Burn, Infinite Mill, "You win the game"... etc, usually try and focus on one to build up the synergy / consistency.
Some that I can see that would be easy,
You have Turnabout, add Reiterate an easy Infinite mana combo. Usually you'll seen enablers like Blue Sun's Zenith or Stroke of Genius, but you do have Starstorm & Devil's Play. Comet Storm is also very good because it's an Instant. If you go this way Firemind's Foresight can Tutor the win-con Reiterate + Comet Storm + Mystical Tutor > Turnabout.
Brainstorm is Instant, and puts cards back into your library, it's a must include.
Thought Vessel also good, it's a Mana source, so good, but also gives you unlimited hand size.
Mizzix's Mastery can usually stabilize later in the game too. Reality Spasm goes Infinite mana with Nivix Guildmage just as often as Turnabout does. Merchant Scroll can Tutor Turnabout (or Firemind's Foresight if you end up going that win-con tutor route)
Fissure Vent seems like a High CMC for an Artifact/Land, some specific land your after in your pod?
Assuming some of these are cards you owned/have, there are definitely some upgrades out there:
Timestream Navigator seems like a lot of work, mana, and no haste. Temporal Mastery? Is there a combo you have for this guy to recur infinitely or something? Imperial Recruiter can tutor him. So could Muddle the Mixture.
Since you have Traumatize, you may also want to consider Tunnel Vision it can tutor a card in your library, or it can hit an opponents library. With Jace, the Mindsculptor's +2 it can remove their entire library too. (or Vendilion Clique both options expensive)
A few ideas to consider anyways, cheers, +1
2 weeks ago
Thought Vessel is a great mana stone because it provides no maximum hand size, which in Izzet that's handy. And it's a mana stone so it doesn't hurt just accelerates.
Turnabout is a very easy card to abuse here, it's with 2 Experience. It's pretty much Infinite with Reiterate. Seething Song too, goes Infinite pretty easily with Reiterate. Infinite mana enables casting things like Blue Sun's Zenith to win. Guttersnipe can enable a Reiterate into a win-con too, Also works with Reset but have to exclude any sorcery spells you may want/need. Mana Geyser decent here too, but it's sorcery speed and only good for 4-Player Multi pod play. Reality Spasm is a quasi-Turnabout too but a little more mana to kick it off.
Laboratory Maniac is a common win-con with Enter the Infinite, can be tutored with Imperial Recruiter if you like too. Although not needed because I know your going to Beacon of Tomorrows infinitely, you'll need to rely on some protection being drawn, like Pact of Negation at minimum, preferably a Force of Will as well.
I love Jace, the Mind Sculptor, all the modes are amazing.
Foresee feels to high a CMC for me, and a sorcery. I dislike the uncertainty of Steam Augury can toss a combo, I know you have recursion Mystic Retrieval, Past in Flames etc, but I like to control my own destiny.
I'm pretty sure there's better than Meteor Blast? I think.
I don't think Rise from the Tides will win you the game, you don't output much damage along the way, plus how many are you going to get, especially if your using Flashback, etc, you're not really playing a mill yourself base either. You have much better like Mizzix's Mastery. Tunnel Vision perhaps could enable this, also Tunnel Vision has nice synergy with Jace, the Mind Sculptor, If you +2 him and it's not a basic land, you basically Tunnel Vision their entire library. Also, Tunnel Vision is really just another Tutor ability, because it finds a card in your deck (like Mizzix's Mastery for example) and put's it ontop, then draw it Brainstorm, you're already pre-loaded (a little random albeit for the Mizzix's Mastery to go off).
Definitely have lots of other ideas too, you can checkout my deck if interested has some discussion / combo / synergy. I just started working on my Mizzix of the Izmagnus again, he kind of got lots with me working on some Budget EDH decks, but now I'm back into playing him (and then tweaking him). Mine is different strategy, it's definitely more Infinite focused.