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3 days ago
NoOneOfConsequence I actually did playtest your deck once (I know, it isn't a great sample size by any means), yet many cards are an issue. I apologize, I really want to like a deck you post, just to not make this a dramafest, but I can't say a bad deck is good. Damnation and Wrath don't need to be put into the deck at all.
Here is a full list of cards that are particularly overpriced, and where each card I think is bad or could be better fits, if you truely believe that I can't evaluate it fairly:
Doomwake Giant - Interesting repeatable board wipe, a meta-dependent inclusion though, not good for the average cEDH meta, but does have a place in some lists. I'd drop, but could imagine many arguments for it's inclusion.
Ghostly Prison - anti-attacks, which just rarely comes into play outside of kiki-lines and the sort, a strange meta-dependent inclusion, but I coudl much less justify this one.
Karmic Justice - Cool card, but often enchantment removal comes in the form of bounce or exile, and so this effect feels very off.
Vindicate - 3 mana remove 1 thing is a lot of wasted mana, easy drop.
No Mercy - Really a lot of attack-hate, strange for a stax list with a commander that generates blockers. Easy drop at a 4 mana do nothing enchantment.
Knowledge Pool - I get the Eidolon of Rhetoric / Rule of Law combo with it, but many decks have better value engines than Daxos, or can respond by killing one of the pieces, or can kill Daxos. These make this combo rarely an easy way to finish the game, requiring a ton of setup/backup that survives the lock. I think better options exist.
Sigil of the Empty Throne - A slow, 5 mana do nothing enchantment, it takes forever to get this going, easy drop.
Sphere of Safety - This much creature-attack hate? How much do you need? 1 card is often too much with Daxos in the CZ, but you run... including sweepers... like 11? Wow. Your meta must be all Edric and Blood Pod, maybe 1 Kess Twin, nah, just all Edric decks.
Black Market - maybe in a meta with 50 Edric decks. Outside of that, easy drop.
Land Tax - should run the Geddon/Ravages package or leave this out.
Mesa Enchantress - Slow card draw on a weak creature is just removal bait, this deck has better cards for the slot. Harder drop.
Phyrexian Arena - A lot of math goes into why this card is generally pretty bad. Inefficient and weak in most circumstances, and needs almost 5 unimpeded turns to get enough value to be okay. Better cards for the slot.
Cabal Coffers - big mana, not worth it outside of ANS.
Vesuva - copying a land to enter tapped leaves you in a lack of mana. Weak card.
Command Beacon - easy drop, weak card.
Deserted Temple - Easy drop, weak card.
Strip Mine - Good card, not here.
Temple of Silence - scry is weak when you lose due to not having mana, easy drop
Kor Haven - Easy Drop, never gonna use that ability
Plains x4 - Not great at Fixing
New inclusions (Total drops are at 42)
Base inclusions: Fellwar Stone , Prismatic Lens , Thought Vessel , Everflowing Chalice , Caves of Koilos , Command Tower , City of Brass , Mana Confluence , Exotic Orchard , Cavern of Souls , Gemstone Caverns , Gemstone Mine , and Tarnished Citadel
Total real cards left to put in: 29
Thorn of Amethyst , Thalia, Guardian of Thraben , Trinisphere , Tangle Wire , Sphere of Safety , Damping Sphere , Fragmentize , Aura of Silence , Dismember , Lotus Petal , Dark Ritual , Kataki, War's Wage , Crucible of Worlds , Bottomless Pit , Oppression , Liliana of the Veil , Static Orb , Linvala, Keeper of Silence , Ethersworn Canonist , Aven Mindcensor , Torpor Orb , Planar Void , Grafdigger's Cage , Ensnaring Bridge (just for your meta), Dark Confidant , Containment Priest , Chalice of the Void , Sanctum Prelate , Alms Collector
That would be the deck.
3 days ago
5 days ago
I think I agree with all of Gus's cuts except for Chandra's Ignition (which seems pretty good given how big Licia will often be and its lifelink) and Teferi's Protection (though that does cost like 30 dollars fyi). I'd also cut: Cliffhaven Vampire , Defiant Bloodlord - the body on him is really bad, Vindicate - instant speed hurts this a lot. Damnable Pact - I think you can do better. Blood Tribute - There's an Orzhov split card that does this but better in the new set.
I'd agree with most of Gus's adds, except for Unburial Rites . I think the card draw is the most important to add. I'd also consider: Sunforger , Angelic Accord , Bloodsworn Steward , Dawn of Hope , Burnished Hart (the statistic episode of Command Zone made me put this in nearly every nongreen deck). Finally, Manabarbs also seems kinda funny since you should be at much higher life than everyone else.
Finally, your landbase is kinda mismatched at the moment. But, I figure you'll make those shifts later.
6 days ago
WotC printed not one, but two, judge promos of Vindicate , but then printed it in a masters set after that, so I shall remain hopeful that they may eventually print Rhystic Study in a set that actually makes it affordable.
1 week ago
Thanks for the tips and happy brewing!
1 week ago
Honestly, I feel like the problem here is a lack of direction. What do you want to DO with this deck? How does doubling "tokens on death" triggers or "mana on death" triggers help you? How do you actually win, or do anything but durdle? It looks like an aristocrats deck, but does not have the necessary focus.
If you answer that question, I think that the deck will have much more coherency. Maybe I'm just missing the point of the deck, though - a better description would help ;) I'll come back and make more detailed suggestions when I know what the deck is striving to do.
This is my WB tokens deck, for context - maybe you'll find something you like in it!
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1 week ago
2 weeks ago
As for grave hate: i use Grave Betrayal but I will definitely look into the artifacts you mentioned.