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Leovold, Emissary of Trest
Legendary Creature — Elf
Each opponent can't draw more than one card each turn.
Whenever you or a permanent you control becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, you may draw a card.
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Leovold, Emissary of Trest Discussion
1 day ago
The issue is that legacy has better options? Like, the premium UR deck is a very aggressive one, using Delver of Secrets Flip etc to provide lots of early pressure, backed up with better removal, burn and creatures. This deck will inefficiently try to trade 1 for 1, against creatures like Leovold, Emissary of Trest and True-Name Nemesis, while the other decks can Brainstorm sculpt perfect hands and stuff.
Take a look at this for example.
1 week ago
@ClockworkSwordfish: I've played and consequently lost a lot of games to elf-ramp-centric EDH strategies and the only names I've ever heard those deck types called is either "Elfball" or "Elf Cancer" (because they can be disgusting in how quickly they win the game when built right).
They are more or less a play-group warping type of deck that demands other players build in a manner that can stop them or they just lose. Many other tribal deck types, Slivers especially, are capable of doing this in addition to stax or even combo decks like those built with Leovold, Emissary of Trest or Breya, Etherium Shaper. With the latter options being banned because as opposed to the tribal strategy, they are not stopped dead by one well timed Damnation.
@berryjon: Would you say that cards like Ancient Craving and Ambition's Cost count as functional reprints of Concentrate or Harmonize? If they do, would you think red will ever get a similar card to that specific example?
Also, I figure you're "retwistment" card is a reference to Wheel of Fortune, but how do Wheel of Fate and Magus of the Wheel not break the functional reprint rule? Or am I confused about when some of these were printed?
2 weeks ago
Leovold, Emissary of Trest - Goodbye you beautiful bastard, you will be missed.
Liliana, Death's Majesty - Need to see if this fits well enough with the plan, I'm not keen on planeswalkers usually, but graveyard recursion is what I'm after in this deck, and at 5 cmc it's a good cascade target. I need to play around with this to see if this is what I want to do with this slot.
1 month ago
You probably know this, but Leovold, Emissary of Trest is banned... unless your play group doesn't care about the ban list; otherwise, great deck!
1 month ago
Given that you normally only have Nekusar around for a single turn on a good day, I have always stayed away from too many permanent that without him or similar effect, they turn against you. Forced Fruition is one of the worst offenders in my opinion. Without pain, you are allowing people to see their entire deck, when you are already wheeling them too. It does enable mill victory, but I'd be afraid of them getting more cards for free.
A few suggestions I can make:
Library of Leng - makes all wheels optional for you, plus incite hand size for one mana? Too good.
Helm of the Ghastlord - this is a less popular card due to being an aura at 4 that won't win the game. However, this transforms Nekusar into Leovold, Emissary of Trest. You get to play a banned card, more or less.
That's what I got for now! Super hard to critique on a small phone
1 month ago
cyclonemetal I agree with you that it is too narrow, but in my case where there are: 2 Nekusar, the Mindrazer decks, 1 Mizzix of the Izmagnus deck, 1 Memnarch deck and 3 Maelstrom Wanderer decks. Also there use to be 3 Leovold, Emissary of Trest decks until he got the axe. So yeah, I agree with ya on how Boil is a little dumb but some times its a blow out and its cute. I don't really see it that often in my hand where it would be useless in my meta. But most of the time its there just for a good Sunforger target, anyways thanks for asking!
1 month ago
Well you can remove Leovold, Emissary of Trest from the list.
1 month ago
MagicalHacker Yes my rant about Counterspells was sarcastic but I honestly don't see the difference when you're talking about the bans you suggested. Banning Ramp and Tutors seems like banning Counterspells to me. You talked about making the format more "fun" and what's less fun than getting your spells countered?
I have to say that my opinion hasn't changed regarding the banlist. I have always said that I believe the banlist should only be for Competitive players. We shouldn't make bans based off of Casual players because Casual players are more likely to follow their own version of a banlist or disregard it completely.
This has been my personal experience. Casual players will play banned cards, have other selective bans, etc. It is only the Competitive players that are required to follow the banlist. Tournament play will follow the banlist, Competitive players will build their deck on the banlist because that's what they play for. Casual Commander players in my experience just do whatever they want.
To give you examples, Prophet of Kruphix was banned because of its effect on Casual play. Recently Leovold, Emissary of Trest was banned because of its effect on Casual play. Neither of those cards were problematic in Competitive, yet they are banned for everyone now.
I bring this up because every Casual group I have played with has said, "Please don't play that deck anymore" "No infinite combos" etc. They outline their own rules before playing.
Competitive players are REQUIRED to follow the banlist, yet Casual players dictate the banlist. What sense does this make?