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Sigarda, Heron's Grace
Legendary Creature — Angel
You and Humans you control have hexproof.
, Exile a card from your graveyard: Put a 1/1 white Human Soldier creature token onto the battlefield.
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Sigarda, Heron's Grace Discussion
1 week ago
My thoughts on each of these cards:
gladiuslucix's Mizzium Jumper Cables:
I like this card. It's fun, has lots of synergies, and has some good flavour. That said, while I think it might be neat to build with in kitchen table and in casual commander, as noted in the article, it's not quite powerful enough to see more competitive play. Four-drops that don't immediately make a difference are pretty problematic.
Since I still like it's function, my edit would be as follows:
; and a second ability like "When Mizzium Jumper Cables enters the battlefield, you may cast target instant or sorcery card with a converted mana cost of 1 from your graveyard without paying its mana cost."
Four mana for 2 damage, and an Opt, Thoughtseize, Lightning Bolt, or Path to Exile to boot is starting to get into the "playable" realm, though I still think you generally have better things to do on turn 4. I don't think this would be too game-breaking in limited either--there are generally a lack of playable 1-mana instant or sorcery spells, particularly at common.
Ithyn's Rocky Coastline
I disagree entirely with this review. While I think this is a tad better than most enters-tapped lands, as you can use it for mana in a pinch, I think it is entirely outclassed by pretty much any other land that enters untapped. Unless I was playing a deck with good synergies, I'd rather run a fast/check/pain land as my budget option.
I don't foresee this having that big of an impact on fetch lands' cost, as Boza suggested--fetch lands are just too good, and no competitive deck is going to want to be down a mana. The kinds of people who will want this land are building on a budget, and are not in the market for fetchesanyway. There flexibility and synergies make them better than Rocky Tar Pit, but still not in the same league as fetches.
I see no reason to limit this card to basics--I think the very design provides enough limitations to its power.
That's not to say I don't like this card. I think there's a place for lands that enter tapped (budget commander; limited; standard), and I really like the flexibility of this card. That it might have some interesting discard/cycling synergies is an added plus, making a mediocre land somewhat more playable--provided you've designed your deck to use it.
So, despite my argument against it being a powerful land, I fully think it has a place in the game, and support it as-is.
Mig-El's Leftraru, Indomitable Cacique
I have a number of issues with this card, but my biggest issues come from the colour pie.
Red makes sense in this card--Red is known for giving other creatures Haste, and 3/1 stats are exactly what I expect from an aggressive red creature.
White and Black is where things fall apart.
Let's look at White first.
Right now, there is only one mono-White card that grants your creatures hexproof--Shalai, Voice of Plenty--and even she has a Green/White colour identity. In fact, looking at all the cards that grant anything Hexproof, it's pretty clear it is the Green part of her colour identity that is providing Hexproof to the creatures, and the White to you.
While Drogskol Captain Sigarda, Heron's Grace are similar to this card in effect, Sigarda, Heron's Grace runs into the same issue as Shalai, Voice of Plenty, and Drogskol Captain's hexproof seems much more in line with Blue's Lord of the Unreal than White's lack of mono-colored equivalent.
Moving on to Black--there is no reason for this card to have Black in its casting cost, other than flavour, and I don't think that is sufficient on its own.
How would I change this, while sticking with the original design idea of assissting Kaalia?
My revised copy of this card:
Creature - Human Berserker
Other creatures you control have haste.
Sacrifice Indomitable Cacique: Target creature you control gains indestructible until end of turn.
Breaking down the revisions. The general concept follows that of Fires of Yavimaya and Firewake Sliver. Three mana is pretty reasonable for giving your creatures haste (Goblin Chieftain, Fervor, Blur Sliver, etc.), so I think this is priced fairly well CMC wise.
The Indestructible ability is pretty reasonably costed as well--Selfless Spirit provides the same ability for , and also has two power and evasion.
The lack of legendary keeps it from being a commander--I think having an "everyone has haste" card always in-hand is problematic. While you could make an argument for a tribal limitation, that's pretty insignificant--that just creates a tribal deck where, in effect, "everyone still has haste, we're just a bit more cohesive in our type."
Those were my thoughts. Overall, though I disagree with a lot of what was said in the article, this is a pretty fun topic. It's always interesting to see what people find reasonable or not in a card.
3 weeks ago
You also seem to have three different ideas competing for space here. You want the life gain + Resplendent Angel Combo to work for you, you want Knight Exemplar to come out with Day of Judgment, and you're playing both angels and knights, each of which is only half your creature base (Lyra Dawnbringer only boosts the angels, while History of Benalia only benefits your knights). These are strong on their own, but aren't acting cohesively.
Also, I know that Shalai, Voice of Plenty prevents your opponent from interacting with your fancy dudes, but you're not using the handy green-related ability.
I recommend making a choice: go all knights (with minor angelic support... Sigarda, Heron's Grace?), or go stronger into angels.
If angels: Call To Serve and a whole lot more removal spells (keep killing their low-level threats until you can get good angels out to defend yourself). Pull the knight-specific cards (but keep ones that still boost angels, like Benalish Marshal).
1 month ago
Hey, good update. Rancor is a great addition, good thinking :) Tuvasa becomes a real threat with Rancor especially if she has an Estrid mask to protect her from getting 2 for 1 by opponent.
Consider Satyr Enchanter and Shalai, Voice of Plenty? Satyr is another enchantress from the most recent set M19. Shalai is like Sigarda, Heron's Grace, but better for your deck because you're not playing very many Humans. Shalia can not only give you hexproof, but all your creatures including Tuvasa as well as all your enchantment creatures when you get Starfield online. Shalai can also help to protect Estrid.
1 month ago
Thanks for your reply. I didn't realize Shield of the Oversoul was so redundant, as I thought it gave lifelink, not flying. Lifegain is a major theme of my deck, as my Angels can get lifelink from Lyra Dawnbringer, which is why I have a few payoff cards. You are right about Oath of Nissa, and while I have known about Sylvan Library for a long time, this is the first time I have seen Mirri's Guile. I'll definitely make the switch. Zendikar Resurgent might be good, so I'll see if it will be good in playtesting once my deck is down to 100 cards. As for your anthems suggestion, I will take out some of them, but I still want 1 or 2 to see how they go.
Thanks for your reply. I didn't know you played Commander! A welcome surprise. And yes, I agree with you, it is very hard to take out cards. I'll probably take out these cards from your list:
Thanks for your help in another deck of mine,
1 month ago
Hey, nice beginner Angel Commander deck. I saw your topic in the Commander Help Forum. The cards I'll suggest you cut to make 100 cards are fine cards, but they're not as good as other cards already here. When you get down to the last remaining cards to cut from a Commander deck it's hard, have to make some tough choices, some good cards will be cut. I'll start with the least good Angels and anthems.
Cards to consider cutting (in no order):
- Sigarda, Heron's Grace
- Angel of Invention
- Sublime Archangel
- Angelic Field Marshal
- Oath of Nissa
- Adventurous Impulse
- Karametra, God of Harvests
- Kindred Summons
- Swift Justice
- Always Watching
- Serra Aviary
- Radiant Destiny
- Angelic Destiny
Lots of anthem effects that only pump Angels are less needed because Angels already have high power as well as flying. Pumping them with anthems isn't doing much. Lyra is the exception because she's an Angel and her anthem effect gives Angels lifelink which is very good for the strategy here. Skirmisher is another exception, she's also an Angel and can also give Angels lifelink.
I have other suggestions if you're interested. Would you like more suggestions?
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Hello all who stumble onto this post,
I have made a beginner EDH deck, using my favorite tribe, Angels, as the theme with Sigarda, Host of Herons as the commander. I have made the deck, with 11 cards over the 100 card limit. It would be greatly appreciated if you could help me take the card number down to 100
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2 months ago
When I first looked at the Humans decklist, I was like, why didn't they have Sigarda, Heron's Grace in sideboard? Sure, she costs 5, but gives all your humans (and you) hexproof and can be easily ramped out with Noble Hierarch. She also has a manasink, allowing you to create chump-blockers and giving +1/+1 counters to Thalia's Lieutenant and Champion of the Parish. I've compiled a list of what she helps with and benefits:
Burn by giving everything Hexproof
Removal and/or Pacifsm effects
Pumping up your guys
Using your now unused mana
Top of the curve at 5
And last but not least, she costs only a dollar or two.
What's not to love?
2 months ago
Good start, a few cards don't seem to fit the goal of the deck.
Laboratory Maniac - I dont see a infinite draw engine to make this a viable win condition.
Teferi, Hero of Dominaria - You have an okay amount of instants (It's just how the deck wants to be built), but I think you're a little short on benefiting from his + enough for his cost.
Sigarda, Heron's Grace - You're got 6 Humans and Tuvasa ain't one.
Acidic Slime - Great removal, but because it costs so much it's only worth it in decks that can consistently bring it back from the grave or blink it.
Aura Shards - I don't think you have enough creatures to really abuse this, but it is still really good.
Abundant Growth - Great color fixing, but not ramp.
Luminarch Ascension - You might have enough protection to get this going, maybe.
Estrid, the Masked - She's still great protection for your Enchantments and your commander.
Wild Growth - 1 drop enchantment ramp
New Horizons - Color fixing, ramp, and some pump.
Sol Ring - Come on, Really? xD
Supreme Verdict - Just a good wipe.
One reason why you might not want to go the way im about to suggest is because my Controlling Girlfriend(s) deck does this too. But, feel free to copy me (You always do xD)
Aura of Silence - more tax and can destroy something.
Totem Armor is strong. If you want to go down that path the precon has some good ones, but look up cards that give totem armor, they aren't bad.