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You gain life equal to the number of creatures on the battlefield plus the number of artifacts on the battlefield.
War Report Discussion
1 month ago
Okay, so after looking at this deck for a while, considering its sideboard, and adding some cards that I use often for similar strategies, I've come up with a list of edits (well, actually three lists).
Before I get to those, I would like to explain what I found. Firstly, I like the idea behind the deck. Token strategies are always a great way to make a casual deck that can scale to be for optimized. I love the afterlife keyword as it lends itself to this optimization really well. But there were several less-than-savory card choices in here. The two biggest issues that I saw are ones that I see a lot (and full into too). The first of these is that many cards have a very high cost-to-value ratio. That is, there were several cards that cost too much (mana) and do too little for it. Elgaud Inquisitor is a fantastic example. While Elgaud Inquisitor is on-theme with their on-death triggered ability, that is all they have going for them. The lifelink isn't super useful, and the CMC is WAY too high. They are only a 2/2 too boot. Second off, theme isn't the same as function. I understand that there is a vorthos element to this deck, but since this deck isn't a full tribal deck, I think it's better to focus on ways to make the good parts of the theme work great.
I saw lots of cards that were life gaining cards ( Pontiff of Blight , Impassioned Orator , Riot Control , etc). This deck can make a lot of tokens which Tesya gives lifelink. You need not worry about life gain card. The strength of your creatures that make tokens when they die is that you can easily recur them in W/B. In the lists below, there are many cards that give added value to dying creature or make killing your creatures more ways to die. Lastly and most importantly, you had ZERO ramp and ALMOST NO card draw. THESE ARE THE TWO MOST FUNDAMENTAL ASSPECTS IN EDH!!! You NEED to have them!!! You can not rely solely on the one land drop and card draw. I've listed several cards that assist the main strategy and draw you cards (things like Dredge and Altar's Reap ). As for ramp, there is almost no good ramp outside of green. That only means that you have to look harder. Mana rocks are a must. I only have three in the lists, but they are absolute must-haves. Next, I put in several cards that give you mana in other ways. Most of them align themselves with the main strategy ( Ashnod's Altar , Soldevi Adnate , and Pawn of Ulamog to name a few). Similarly, I added cards that draw you cards from creatures dying. There is one card that I would like to point out in particular, Erebos . The important part of Erebos is his last ability. You pay and 2 life to draw a card. Life is a resource, and you'll be making plenty of it. Be sure to spend it. There are lots of cards that help you turn life into various things, like Bolas's Citadel (which I almost put in and still think has a place here). I would encourage you to look into them. Lastly, I would remove 6 lands. You have other ramp now and don't want to be flooded all of the time.
Here is the list of cards that I would remove:
- Healer of the Pride
- Kitsune Healer
- Mausoleum Guard
- Seraph of the Scales
- Seraph of the Sword
- Syndicate Messenger
- Guardian of the Gateless
- Knight of Sorrows
- Lumbering Battlement
- Orzhov Racketeers
- Angelic Skirmisher
- Deathpact Angel
- Patron of the Kitsune
- Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant / Rune-Tail's Essence
- Knight of the Last Breath
- Angelic Edict
- Angelic Exaltation
- Holy Mantle
- Angel of Despair
- Impassioned Orator
- Pontiff of Blight
- Riot Control
- War Report
- Safe Passage
- Orzhov Charm
- Lingering Souls
- Spectral Procession
- Kindred Dominance
- Ethereal Absolution
- Phantom General
- Treasury Thrull
- Sky Tether
I understand that there is a budget to this deck, so I've split my suggestions into two lists. The first is all cards that are cheap and should keep you under budget. The second list of cards is for later edits. If you want to spend more money on this deck, those are the cards that I would recommend buying.
- Altar's Reap
- Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim
- Butcher of Malakir
- Demon of Dark Schemes
- Doomed Dissenter
- Grim Haruspex
- Merciless Resolve
- Open the Graves
- Orzhov Signet
- Pawn of Ulamog
- Pitiless Plunderer
- Rescue from the Underworld
- Soldevi Adnate
- Talisman of Hierarchy
- Whisper, Blood Liturgist
- Burnished Hart
- Living Death
- Phyrexian Reclamation
- Priest of Forgotten Gods
- Sun Titan
- Viscera Seer
- Command Tower
As you're read through these, you might notice that a lot of these came from your sideboard. There are lots of good cards in there.
- Ashnod's Altar
- Black Market
- Crypt Ghast
- Dictate of Erebos
- Divine Visitation
- Erebos, God of the Dead
- Grave Pact
- Hallowed Spiritkeeper
- Krav, the Unredeemed
- Oversold Cemetery
- Phyrexian Arena
- Smothering Tithe
- Sol Ring
I hope you enjoy these changes. Just remember that casual decks don't have to be un-optimized.
1 year ago
So, deck would be stronger and more stable, if you remove cards that give life only once Lagonna-Band Elder,War Report, and even cards that give life once per circle Silent Attendant, then add more protection to play over Soul Warden-alike cards: Angelic Renewal, Hyena Umbra
1 year ago
I've been trying to cut cards for the past +-4 hours now, and I just now realized.. this deck would be so much better if I focused on soldiers instead of vampires. Maybe even a hybrid deck where we sacrifice soldier tokens to make vampires stronger. I still want to keep the life gain in there though.
@PaulaTicks That wording bothered me though, if it still work then it would be nice, especially in a more voltron-ey deck with more activiated abilities. But, as it is now, I don't have enough to make copy cards worth the inclusion. Also, Chandra's Ignition is going to be a game-winning card, what the hell.. the potential on that is insane, coupled with lifelink even more so.
@greatgoofini: Oh I was typing this up as you posted, good timing :D.
I took Congregate out earlier! but if I do switch to a soldier-vampire hybrid like I'm thinking of.. I'll definitely take it back in because it's going to be just way too good. if so, War Report can join in as well , nice find :)
Tainted Remedy is something I'll have to watch out for as well.. could totally break this deck.
1 year ago
1 year ago
You're probably right about War Report. My group has a saying when it comes to "lifegaining scum," and the payoff with this particular card is that it puts you so far ahead that you should have time to do whatever you need. We're not really an infinite combo group, aside from a few peoples decks.
Bludgeon Brawl is for the magical christmas land where I also have Mycosynth Lattice/Puresteel Paladin and I steal all their stuff and beat them down with it for some silly amount of commander damage. Most of the time it's not good though.
Like any mana source, the Myr are less effective late game, early game they're a tad slow. Most of my ramp is colorless, so you don't think I need the coloured mana?
For me, Clone Shell is one of those pet cards that I like to try places. I like the potential of Blade of Selves into sac outlet (but I don't have enough of those unfortunately) so it may not fit here.
This is a first draft so I appreciate the feedback. Let me ruminate a bit, so I can decide what the slot in over the above. Instant speed equips is probably up there, and possibly the other Nahiri and the cat equipment lord.
1 year ago
Hi. Oh did not see the paladin somehow. But still the cat that lets you equip as an instant is missing.
Some cutting suggestions:
Clone Shell is too unstable. If it gets removed you loose a card and it is not that powerful.
Myr Turbine is really waaaaaay to slow and does not have a lot of impact.
War Report might give you a bit of life but you don't win through lifegain so why if it is the only lifegain effect in here except for the warhammer?
Bludgeon Brawl you have too less of those to make it count.
Iron Myr and Gold Myr your only mana dorks. Too less in number to be effective so put in something that is a threat or helps you being one instead.
I hope this helped. Greets MA.
2 years ago
For cheap mana fixing (<$1):
Gift of Paradise
Pyramid of the Pantheon
Cuts I'd suggest:
Gideon's Lawkeeper for Journey to Nowhere
Manaplasm for Managorger Hydra or Forgotten Ancient
Ondu Giant for Wood Elves
Rhox War MonkSengir Vampire for Archfiend of Depravity or Desecration Demon
Serra Angel for Serra Avenger
Stormblood Berserker for Sulfuric Vortex
Circle of Flame for Mizzium Mortars
Glory of Warfare for Chromatic Lantern
Honor of the Pure for Spear of Heliod, if you really want an anthem effect.
Frost Breath for Mana Leak
Guardians' Pledge for Sakura-Tribe Elder (you really dont have enough white creatures for this effect)
Incinerate & Lightning Bolt for Terminate and Murder
Plummet for Oblivion Ring
Titanic Growth for Harmonize
War Report for Day of Judgment
Exploding Borders for Burnished Hart
Traveler's Amulet for Wayfarer's Bauble
I suggest choosing a theme for your deck. Right now it seems to be pulling in too many directions.
Want to cast and swing with Progenitus? Include cards that grant haste like Temur Ascendancy.
Want to play fun multicolored shenanigans? Include whatever value you like.
Want to use overcosted enchantment cycles? Include the Shrines.
Focusing will allow you to better determine what your deck wants. Regardless, I recommend playing heavy green to maximize your ability to mana ramp.
2 years ago
You need the artifacts to ramp and keep up.
Porcelain Legionnaire he doesn't do anything for you in this list
Chief Engineer: you aren't playing enough artifcats
Puresteel Paladin: again, not enough to utilize him
Stonehewer Giant: ditto
Trinket Mage: ditto
Steel Hellkite: you have better options in what I gave you
Wall of Denial: eh.
Skullclamp: I don't even know if this is legal, keep it if you add elspeth and other stuff that will allow you to utilize it
Cloudshift: kind of meh
Survival Cache: not as good
These are the one's staring me in the face
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