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Oriss, Samite Guardian
Legendary Creature — Human Cleric
Tap: Prevent all damage that would be dealt to target creature this turn.
Grandeur - Discard another card named Oriss, Samite Guardian: Target player can't play spells this turn, and creatures that player controls can't attack this turn.
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Oriss, Samite Guardian Discussion
3 months ago
Is it just me or is Oriss, Samite Guardian really channeling tatooine bikini Leia. This might be a long one because there's a few things I wanna say and I have a habit of going into way too much detail.
You have very few ways of digging to a second Oriss. Most of your deck doesn't do anything if you don't have at least 2 of her and the chances of that happening naturally in any given game is around 12% on turn three and only reaches 50/50 by turn 12. The planeswalkers, removal and hand disruption help of course however being able to dig for a second copy would be incredibly valuable. I'm thinking Corpse Churn, Discovery / Dispersal or even Shriekhorn seeing as you have so many ways of getting stuff back.
Activating Oriss won't stop them killing her in response. The vast majority of removal spells in the modern format, especially the most played ones, are all instant speed. Modern decks usually fall into 2 categories : Proactive kill you on turn 4 combo decks and "fair" or "linear" control decks that are usually packed with Fatal Pushs(+fetch lands), multiple Lightning Bolts, Terminates, Path to Exiles and Cryptic Commands so if your planning on letting your opponents draw their entire deck they are going to get out of the lock eventually. My suggestion is Lightning Greaves, Swiftfoot Boots or even Gods Willing.
The bit where I suggest random cards. Palace Siege seems insane and tbh you probably want more Liliana, the Necromancer. Codex Shredder is like Shriekhorn except it can be a Time Warp when the lock is partially assembled. Memorial to Folly is a potential alternative to Haunted Fengraf. Dusk / Dawn has potential as both sides can be relevant and you usually want a split on wrath to play around Meddling Mage a.k.a. 1 Damnation, 1 Day of Judgment and 1 Wrath of God instead of 3 Wrath of God.
Anyways sweet deck concept. I think some version of this could be modern viable.
6 months ago
lagotripha those are some great suggestions I feel stupid not thinking of those before. it looks to be turning into orzhov walkers with a twist which I like. having the possibility of a full, unescapable lock sounds exciting to so thanks for that as well. I wish I could include Korlash, Heir to Blackblade as well but I would rather get back an Oriss, Samite Guardian almost every time this and the fact that I would have to run a playset for it to be worth it just doesn't work. once again thanks for the suggestions the deck just got a lot better.
6 months ago
1 year ago
Have been thinking about building something around Zur lately. I really like the card Pariah if you can find some cheap wall with a lot of toughness or something indestructible (I really want to put Oriss, Samite Guardian in a deck, maybe with Pariah it's worth it). Another wall to consider is Nyx-Fleece Ram, which is an enchantment also. There are also a number of green/white Enchantress cards for extra card draw. I think Courser of Kruphix might have a home in this deck as well. Love the deck, though. Given me a lot of ideas for my own.
1 year ago
Yomiji, Who Bars the Way lijtk me niet zo goed, ze mana cost is echt enorm en daarnaast geld zijn ability voor iedereen. En omdat iedereen met een legendary creature speelt lijkt dat me niet ideaal.
Mana ramp is denk ik ook niet ideaal, als ik maar naar 4 mana kom kan ik altijd met sisay land opzoeken (of Karametra, God of Harvests).
Nylea, God of the Hunt is wel goed, maar in dit deck heb je denk ik niet vaak devotion omdat ik veel meer wit speel als groen.
Time of Need = een sisay tap, lijkt me niet nodig, Kitsune Healer vind ik niet super omdat ik hem niet kan opzoeken, ik heb Oriss, Samite Guardian toegevoegd, Day of Destiny doet niet zo veel vind ik zelf.
1 year ago
Mirrorpool is nice for activating the Grandeur ability of Oriss, Samite Guardian in a color without any creature copying (I believe), as long as you can get the original Oriss, Samite Guardian back into your hand from the graveyard.
2 years ago
Also, you don't have to include any of these if you don't want to, but these are all the White commanders I could find that weren't in your list.
Atalya, Samite Master, Avacyn, Guardian Angel, Brigid, Hero of Kinsbaile, Brimaz, King of Oreskos, Celestial Kirin, Cho-Manno, Revolutionary, Commander Eesha, General Jarkeld, Gerrard Capashen, Guan Yu, Sainted Warrior, Hazduhr the Abbot, Hikari, Twilight Guardian, Hixus, Prison Warden, Huang Zhong, Shu General, Kataki, War's Wage, Kentaro, the Smiling Cat, Kiyomaro, First to Stand, Konda, Lord of Eiganjo, Lieutenant Kirtar, Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero, Liu Bei, Lord of Shu, Major Teroh, Myojin of Cleansing Fire, Nagao, Bound by Honor, Opal-Eye, Konda's Yojimbo, Orim, Samite Healer, Oriss, Samite Guardian, Oyobi, Who Split the Heavens, Pang Tong, "Young Phoenix", Pianna, Nomad Captain, Radiant, Archangel, Rashida Scalebane, Rashka the Slayer, Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant, Sensei Golden-Tail, Sidar Jabari, Soraya the Falconer, Takeno, Samurai General, Tivadar of Thorn, Yomiji, Who Bars the Way, Yosei, the Morning Star, Zhang Fei, Fierce Warrior, Zhao Zilong, Tiger General, and Zuberi, Golden Feather.
3 years ago
Almost got it in three hours, I'm only like 20 minutes late.
Assuming a 6 tier system:
To be moved from T5 to T6: (Rationale: french-vanilla, overcosted with no pay-off, or just vitually no effect on the game.)
Akuta, Born of Ash, Anthousa, Setessan Hero, Baron Sengir, Bartel Runeaxe, Boris Devilboon, Cho-Manno, Revolutionary, Arcades Sabboth, Atogatog, Chromium, Circu, Dimir Lobotomist, Cloudhoof Kirin, Commander Greven il-Vec, Crovax the Cursed, Dakkon Blackblade, Daughter of Autumn, Gabriel Angelfire, Gallowbraid, Gosta Dirk, Grandmother Sengir, Haakon, Stromgald Scourge, Halfdane, Hazduhr the Abbot, Hivis of the Scale, Huang Zhong, Shu General, Hunding Gjornersen, Ihsan's Shade, Irini Sengir, Ishi-Ishi, Akki Crackshot, Iwamori of the Open Fist, Jacques le Vert, Kei Takahashi, Kentaro, the Smiling Cat, Lady Caleria, Liu Bei, Lord of Shu, Livonya Silone, Lord Magnus, Ma Chao, Western Warrior, Marhault Elsdragon, Morinfen, Myojin of Cleansing Fire, Myojin of Life's Web, Orim, Samite Healer, Palladia-Mors, Pang Tong, "Young Phoenix", Pavel Maliki, Princess Lucrezia, Purraj of Urborg, Rashida Scalebane, Rashka the Slayer, Reveka, Wizard Savant, Riven Turnbull, Rohgahh of Kher Keep, Shimatsu the Bloodcloaked, Sima Yi, Wei Field Marshal, Soraya the Falconer, Spirit of the Night, Stangg, Taniwha, Tarox Bladewing, Telim'Tor, Tuknir Deathlock, Tuktuk the Explorer, Ur-Drago, Vaevictis Asmadi, Veldrane of Sengir, Xun Yu, Wei Advisor, Yukora, the Prisoner, Zhang Liao, Hero of Hefei, Zhao Zilong, Tiger General, Zhou Yu, Chief Commander, Zuberi, Golden Feather.
(I left out Ramirez DePietro because I just didn't have the heart to be the one to demote him. I mean, come on, he's a pirate. Pirates should get their own tier...)
Moved from T4 to T5: (Rationale: mediocre voltron stats w/ limited defensive or evasion abilities, effects that don't have a strong effect on the game.)
Arashi, the Sky Asunder, Adamaro, First to Desire, Alexi, Zephyr Mage, Atalya, Samite Master, Autumn Willow, Ayumi, the Last Visitor, Balthor the Stout, Bounteous Kirin, Cabal Patriarch, Cao Ren, Wei Commander, Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh Flip, Commander Eesha, Daghatar the Adamant, Diaochan, Artful Beauty, Dong Zhou, the Tyrant, Eron the Relentless, Fumiko the Lowblood, Geist of Saint Traft, Gerrard Capashen, Ghost Council of Orzhova, He Who Hungers, Heidar, Rimewind Master, Higure, the Still Wind, Iizuka the Ruthless, Iname as One, Iname, Life Aspect, Isao, Enlightened Bushi, Infernal Kirin, Jareth, Leonine Titan, Jedit Ojanen of Efrava, Jiwari, the Earth Aflame, Kamahl, Pit Fighter, Karona, False God, Kami of the Crescent Moon, Kaysa, Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs, Kiyomaro, First to Stand, Kiku, Night's Flower, Kodama of the North Tree, Kumano, Master Yamabushi, Korlash, Heir to Blackblade, Kuon, Ogre Ascendant, Lady Evangela, Lady Sun, Latulla, Keldon Overseer, Linessa, Zephyr Mage, Llawan, Cephalid Empress, Lovisa Coldeyes, Masako the Humorless, Masumaro, First to Live, Munda, Ambush Leader, Ob Nixilis, the Fallen, Oyobi, Who Split the Heavens, Oriss, Samite Guardian, Pianna, Nomad Captain, Pharika, God of Affliction, Polukranos, World Eater, Radiant, Archangel, Ragnar, Rakdos the Defiler, Rayne, Academy Chancellor, Rorix Bladewing, Ruhan of the Fomori, Sensei Golden-Tail, Shauku, Endbringer, Shisato, Whispering Hunter, Silvos, Rogue Elemental, Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer, Sosuke, Son of Seshiro, Squee, Goblin Nabob, Starke of Rath, Sun Ce, Young Conquerer, Sunastian Falconer, Tahngarth, Talruum Hero, Tajic, Blade of the Legion, Takeno, Samurai General, Thriss, Nantuko Primus, Tymaret, the Murder King, Vhati il-Dal, Vorosh, the Hunter, Zhang Fei, Fierce Warrior, Zurgo Bellstriker.
Moved from T4 to T6: (Rationale: a combination of the last two. These guys really didn't belong in T4 in the first place.)
Guan Yu, Sainted Warrior, Hakim, Loreweaver, Hikari, Twilight Guardian, Kodama of the Center Tree, Kuro, Pitlord, Kongming, "Sleeping Dragon", Maga, Traitor to Mortals, Mannichi, the Fevered Dream, Meng Huo, Barbarian King, Nagao, Bound by Honor, Obzedat, Ghost Council, Patron of the Nezumi, Patron of the Kitsune, Tivadar of Thorn, Zhang He, Wei General, Zuo Ci, the Mocking Sage.
Moved from T3 to T4: (Rationale: Just basing this off of my experience with the commanders and the synergies available to them. Trying to split into Good Tier and Average Tier. Priorities for Good Tier: commanders that have built in methods of dodging removal and disruption (e.g. Thrun, the Last Troll), and commanders who's strategies quick swing the board out of proportion if left unchecked (e.g. Rakdos, Lord of Riots).)
Adun Oakenshield, Akroma, Angel of Fury, Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit, Angus Mackenzie, Anowon, the Ruin Sage, Athreos, God of Passage, Balthor the Defiled, Baru, Fist of Krosa, Borborygmos Enraged, Bosh, Iron Golem, Crovax, Ascendant Hero, Dragonlord Atarka, Dragonlord Dromoka, Dragonlord Silumgar, Dralnu, Lich Lord, Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief, Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder, Erebos, God of the Dead, Ertai, Wizard Adept, Feldon of the Third Path, Gahiji, Honored One, Garza Zol, Plague Queen, Godo, Bandit Warlord, Heliod, God of the Sun, Homura, Human Ascendant, Iname, Death Aspect, Isperia, Supreme Judge, Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip, Jenara, Asura of War, Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur, Jolrael, Empress of Beasts, Jori En, Ruin Diver, Kaervek the Merciless, Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas, Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund, Kaseto, Orochi Archmage, Keranos, God of Storms, Kodama of the South Tree, Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury, Kothophed, Soul Hoarder, Kozilek, the Great Distortion, Kresh the Bloodbraided, Lavinia of the Tenth, Lazav, Dimir Mastermind, Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip, Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero, Mangara of Corondor, Marrow-Gnawer, Mayael the Anima, Mirri the Cursed, Mogis, God of Slaughter, Molimo, Maro-Sorcerer, Nahiri, the Lithomancer, Nin, the Pain Artist, Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip, Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius, Norin the Wary, Nylea, God of the Hunt, Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath, Olivia Voldaren, Patron of the Akki, Patron of the Orochi, Pia and Kiran Nalaar, Radha, Heir to Keld, Reki, the History of Kamigawa, Sapling of Colfenor, Skullbriar, the Walking Grave, Surrak Dragonclaw, Surrak, the Hunt Caller, Sygg, River Cutthroat, Tariel, Reckoner of Souls, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Thraximundar, Thromok the Insatiable, Toshiro Umezawa, Trostani, Selesnya's Voice, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, Ulasht, the Hate Seed, Urabrask the Hidden, Varolz, the Scar-Striped, Vendilion Clique, Venser, Shaper Savant, Visara the Dreadful, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, Wrexial, the Risen Deep, Xira Arien, Yasova Dragonclaw, Yeva, Nature's Herald, Yisan, the Wanderer Bard, Zada, Hedron Grinder, Zo-Zu the Punisher, Zurgo Helmsmasher.
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