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Rootborn Defenses Discussion
1 month ago
Sorry, Rootborn Defenses is what I meant.
1 month ago
you need to consider if you want some of the spells you have included or not. like Make a Stand or Rootborn Defenses . they are great cards, but they are a 1 time use, since they sdon't target anything, so they are a one and done deal. the spell needs to say "target creature or creatures" on it or it's no good unless you don't mind the one time use of course.
2 months ago
Gishath, Sun's Avatar requires kind of an aggro strategy. You'll almost never win by casting dino after dino and swinging. Your goal has to be cast him as soon as possible then swing for cheat dinos into play. Extra combat steps really help with that. So you should be looking for each ramp card that can get you to 8 mana. Going over 10 ramp cards is almost a must, given the mana cost of this commander. Cultivate , Kodama's Reach , Explosive Vegetation , Circuitous Route , Skyshroud Claim and Hour of Promise should do the trick. // These are some ways you can get to 8 mana: Nature's Lore / Farseek / Rampant Growth / Sakura-Tribe Elder + Explosive Vegetation / Circuitous Route / Skyshroud Claim + Temple of the False God (or just wait a turn). Cultivate / Kodama's Reach + Hour of Promise (grabbing Temple of the False God and Boros Garrison ) will also do the trick. // You can take off some cards that don't synergize with the deck: Rootborn Defenses , Unbreakable Formation , Eerie Interlude ( Boros Charm and Heroic Intervention are enough protection), Onward (they can see it coming), Reinforcements (this is only useful when Gishath connects, otherwise is a dead card). // Gishath, Sun's Avatar requires kind of an aggro strategy. Your goal is to cast him as soon as possible. So you should be looking for each ramp card that can get you to 8 mana. Going over 10 ramp cards is almost a must, given the mana cost of this commander. Cultivate , Kodama's Reach , Explosive Vegetation , Circuitous Route , Skyshroud Claim and Hour of Promise should do the trick. // Eladamri's Call is better than Congregation at Dawn (if you have 11+ mana to cast both Gishath and Congregation, you should already be winning the game). But I don't think you should bother with tutors, since this is not a combo deck. You should focus on connecting with Gishath, and keeping your board state for the next swing. // Harmonize is never a bad card in decks without blue or black. You might need some cards when you don't have a creature. // Austere Command , Cleansing Nova , Blasphemous Act ( Akroma's Memorial protects your creatures from B. Act), Harsh Mercy , Mass Calcify , Solar Tide and Rout are better boardwipes than Wrath of God in this deck, since mana is never a problem for Gishath. Catastrophe , Armageddon and Decree of Annihilation if you feel like swinging without oposition.
2 months ago
The other thing this deck wants is lots of card draw. Dark Prophecy and Greed (or Erebos if lifegain is a thing in your meta) are the 2 I ran that you don't (needs big lifegain like Sorin, Solemn Visitor +1 / Exquisite Blood to offset life loss though or it's just too much)
2 months ago
creatures to most likely take:
Combo pieces to take:
other to most likely take:
Harvest Season (after changing mana base)
2 months ago
Blightsteel Colossus - Curve reasons
Graveblade Marauder - Cute but effect probably isn't good enough
Hamletback Goliath - Curve reasons
Khenra Eternal - Bad card basically. Though we want this slot to be at that mana cost
Khenra Scrapper - Again. We want aggressive cards like this but we can do better
Saskia the Unyielding - Big target on your head. Colour intensive. Not a warrior
Savage Knuckleblade - Colour intensive
Taurean Mauler - Doesn't work towards our game plan. Doesn't trigger off combat damage doesn't buff others.
Tenacious Dead - Just bad
Tolsimir Wolfblood - Buff isn't universal and its expensive
Zhur-Taa Druid - We want mana dorks. But only taps for green and its colour intensive to cast.
Maybe Cuts Or Later Cuts
Thunderfoot Baloth - Expensive but ok effect.
Hellkite Charger - Maybe cut. We already have access to this effect at cheaper cost
Zurgo Helmsmasher - He's good. But doesn't help the rest of the game plan
Clan Defiance - Doesn't impact the board enough to make us win the game.
Lavalanche - Effect we want but possible to find cheaper?
Crackling Doom - Doesn't do enough
Oketra's Monument - Doesn't trigger enough and the mana reduction isn't relevant enough
Attacking / Combat Matter Cards
Blood-Chin Rager - Warriors have Menace
Herald of Dromoka - Warriors have Vigilance
Chief of the Edge - Warriors get +1/+0
Raiders' Spoils - Very good card draw
Lovisa Coldeyes - Warriors +2/+2 Haste
Mindblade Render - MOAR card draw
Ogre Battledriver - Your warriors that enter will be 3/1s when attacking
Jazal Goldmane - Massive Buffs
Mardu Woe-Reaper - Graveyard Interaction
Thrasher Brute - Drains an opponent with warrior etb triggers
Edric, Spymaster of Trest - MOAR CARD DRAW
Cryptolith Rite - Lots of mana, infinite combats
Phyrexian Altar - Sac some of the tokens to activate Najeela
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician - Win the game
Sword of Feast and Famine - Win the game if you have the lands
Nature's Will - Win the game if you have the lands
Bear Umbra - Win the game if you have the lands
Archetype of Aggression - Trample
Purphoros, God of the Forge - This guy doesn't need explanation
Cyclonic Rift - ....yeh
Divine Visitation - BECAUSE ANGELS
Harvest Season - we make a lot of tapped and attacking creatures. We want mana
Throne of the God-Pharaoh - Alternate win cons
Shared Animosity - Massive Buffs
Aggravated Assault - Easier Najeela trigger without keywords
Aven Wind Guide - Gives our tokens flying and vigilance
2 months ago
Ok I'm gonna start with recommended cuts to look at and then we'll move on to what possible additions could be looked at, and why.
Angel of Jubilation - This is a maybe cut. Its a good anthem effect and its anti-sac effect can be very useful. However due to being a token deck, we might want to be sacrificing our tokens to do things. So we'll evavluate this again later.
Ant Queen - Another maybe cut. Its a fine token creator, we might just be able to find something thats more efficient. But with some of the other things we'll be doing this might be worth keeping.
Geist-Honored Monk - The one off effect of creating 2 spirits probably isn't worth the slot here. We can find cheaper creatures that have the power and toughness equal to the number of creatures you control if we like that bit.
Jade Mage - Same argument as the Ant Queen really. Though this one doesn't even have a good body to back it up and three mana to make a 1/1 might not be good enough.
Kazandu Tuskcaller - It takes 6 mana to get this guy to the point where he makes 1 3/3 every turn. I think we can do a lot better than this. Its just soooo slow.
Selesnya Guildmage - This one is another maybe. The 4 mana for a 1/1 is rather underwhelming. But the anthem effect is ok.
Thelonite Hermit - Its a lot of mana to get anything out of this guy. It will cost you 8 to get the tokens which seems like a lot even if it is split over multiple turns.
Tukatongue Thallid - As much as we love this guy, the one off effect probably isn't worth his slot. We could do with a couple of other things at 1 mana.
Worldspine Wurm - I love this guy too, but its a lot of mana and he only makes the tokens on death. Seen as we want the tokens sooner rather than later so we can duplicate them with Rhys etc, we might want something that makes the 5/5s quicker. But we could keep this guy for the big guy turn sideways plan.
Cathars' Crusade - I despise keeping track of the board state that this thing creates. Though the effect is actually really powerful and should be in. I put it in the same boat as Coat of Arms. The "Oh Good God, you're on your own just tell me how much your attacking for" boat.
Growing Ranks - I'm never exactly a fan of cards which only trigger in your upkeep like this as they can feel so slow when you play them on your turn, then 3 other peoples turns go by, then you get your first activation. Especially when it only copies one guy.
Leyline of Vitality - While all the effects on this card are fine. I think we could just do better than this. The toughness buff is unlikely to save our creatures from a wrath effect, and the life effect we can find for cheaper. The chance of triggering the Leyline start in play is so low in EDH its probably worth discounting.
Sigil of the Empty Throne - We'll keep an eye on this one. Good card if we have enough Enchantments to reliably trigger it. But bad if we don't. So we'll check out count afterwards.
Verdant Embrace - I think this is expensive, but the effect could be great to stick on something and let it go. This one is more of a maybe.
Devout Invocation - I've always wanted to love this card. But if you have enough creatures to make this a viable card, then you should have enough creatures to be winning anyway without spending 7 mana and a card to make your board into overkill.
Storm Herd - Very expensive card. In fact is the 2nd most expensive card in the deck behind Worldspine Wurm. The effect is cool, but we need to see if its worth the mana.
Moonsilver Spear - another card I've always wanted to like, but rather slow. If it put the Angel into play attacking then It would be a different story, but it doesn't. This one might be ok to keep, but i'd put it on the short list of things to cut.
Sarpadian Empires, Vol. VII - Erm, i don't think i need to explain really why 6 mana for a 1/1 and a further 3 for another 1/1 each turn is bad.
General Ideas For Improvement
First thing i can say on this one is that the deck has no ways really of stopping your opponent from doing anything they want to you while you are trying to execute your game plan. Something that is going to happen is that you are going to get all your creatures destroyed. Its the nature of commander. You're also going to get comboed out with some creatures or you're going to have an artifact or creature that completely shuts down what you're trying to do. So you need some more things that will interact with that.
More Card Draw
You have a lot of good threats and synergies. But you're going to run out of gas in hand if you don't have something to refill after you've put everything into play. Especially if we get got by a wrath we couldn't stop. So we want a few things that will keep us ticking over when we have a board state. And a few things that might help us get back into it if we get blown out.
We have a few ramp spells in here, but not a lot. We could do with some more if we wwant to be able to reliably get up to 6 mana to start Rhys'ing as soon as possible.
Obviously, there has been some new cards printed since this was updated last so we can get them too :)
Sundering Growth - In the same way that some creatures ruin us. Some enchantments and artifacts do to. This is the best way to get rid of them for our deck. But some other Naturalize type effects are not a bad idea. Possibly in the form of creatures like Reclamation Sage or instants like Krosan Grip or Beast Within . Aura Mutation Is a specific enchantment removal that makes us guys which might be worth considering
Rootborn Defenses - The Anti Wrath cards. This one is our best option for our deck, and is the cheapest money wise. Dauntless Escort is good too. Then Heroic Intervention is more expensive moneywise and so is Selfless Spirit .
Mentor of the Meek - With the amount of small tokens we will be making, this guy is great.
Huatli, Radiant Champion - Her ultimate does not say 'Non-token'
Camaraderie - This one requires a board presence but can be well worth it
Shamanic Revelation - This one requires a board presence too. But a lot of green card draw does.
Harmonize - Straight up draw 3. Never bad.
The New fun things!
Anointed Procession - Another Parallel Lives, but in white
Divine Visitation - Just read it.... its a bit good
Cryptolith Rite - Lets all of our guys tap for mana
March of the Multitudes - Instant speed make a lot of guys. Very good with our Gaea's Cradle effects.
Second Harvest - Instand speed 4 mana Rhys activation for double everything.
Shalai, Voice of Plenty - Gives your other things Hexproof and can be used to pump the team with any spare mana you have.
Oviya Pashiri, Sage Lifecrafter - Like another Rhys. Except she makes big things. Do note that for some reason WOTC made her make fixed size guys so they are equal to the number of creatures you have WHEN YOU MAKE IT. I played this wrong for a few rounds in the prerelease.
Shanna, Sisay's Legacy - Hexproof lass with P/T equal to the number of creatures you control for 2 mana.
Throne of the God-Pharaoh - A good way to kill everyone at once without attacking.
Song of Freyalise - Lets our guys tap for mana for a few turns before then buffing them for a turn.
Sandwurm Convergence - Good protection and starts making 5/5 Wurms.
Thousand-Year Elixir - This is great for us as it effectively gives Rhys haste and can let you activate him twice in a turn.
Illusionist's Bracers - Doubles all of Rhys's Activations
Triumph of the Hordes - Kill everyone without them expecting it?
3 months ago
Very nice deck. Nice to see a list where I don't have to recomend Shared Animosity and Reconnaissance (seriously suggested this card at least 200 times for Edgar and it felt like singlehandedly drove the price from $2 to almost $10 in 6 months) and don't have to tell someone that Cathars' Crusade and Door of Destinies are too slow and do nothing the turn they come down for a huge mana investment.
Now actual suggestions lol.
Sorin, Solemn Visitor is really good here and his +1 is disgusting with the hyper aggro but have everyone untapped strategy with Reconnaissance (note until your next turn).
Enlightened Tutor to find Shared Animosity, Recon, Necropotence, etc. Lots of different very important utilities in the artifact/enchantment slot here.
This deck can fold to boardwipes hard. Run Teferi's Protection if you have one or can afford one. If not (or in addition if you see lots of boardwipes), Unbreakable Formation , Rootborn Defenses , and/or my favorite piece of secret tech here... Scapegoat which gets around exile, tuck, and -1-1 type boardwipes and gets your eminence triggers again.
Feel free to check out my list for ideas. Feedback, Upvotes, and/or Ideas on any of my decks is appreciated. Edgar's Dega Vampires.
Rootborn Defenses occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%
GW (Selesnya): 0.79%