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Populate. Creatures you control are indestructible this turn.
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Rootborn Defenses Discussion
6 days ago
This is a really good idea for a deck.
The 4x See Beyond seem bad. I get the point of not wanting emrakul to be in your hand. My suggestion would be to simply play 2x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn instead. This way you even have the potential to Polymorph twice in a game. Pretty much the only downside to this being the 40$. It removes four blue cards from the deck however, wich is always very nice.
If you are struggling with control you can put cards in the sb to help combat it. Spell Pierce against countermagic and Rootborn Defenses against sweepers. Remember to not fill your sb with 15 cards to beat control, since you will unlikely be able to take 15 cards out at once.
Remember to exploit that your combo only takes up 5/6 slots. If you notice your opponent bringing in multible sb cards like Grafdigger's Cage, Spell Pierce, Thoughtseize and so on, you can always side out the entire combo for more aggro. Simply put in more anthems and tokens to punish them for wasting their turn holding up answers to the wrong deck. I would suggest running a couple Geist of Saint Traft in the sb for this exact reason. This could also help give you an edge against control.
One last suggestion: if you ever come around to upgrade the mana base with fetches, consider splashing a tiny bit of red for Nahiri, the Harbinger. Control decks have very few ways to deal with a planeswalker so it effectively adds more Polymorphs to your deck.
2 weeks ago
the mana curve does not look very healthy. You have a lot of overcosted things that don't actually do much and at the same time you don't have some pieces that I would say are almost mandatory in a darien build.
I know that you want to abuse Darien's ability, but stuff like Armageddon Clock Mindstorm Crown Jinxed Idol Torture Chamber Angel's Trumpet Jade Monolith (Doom Cannon in the maybeboard) are absolutely garbage cards that do nothing when Darien is not on the field and that do very little work when he is in play. For example, you pay 6 for armageddon clock, than you have to wait 3 turns to have 6 soldiers, assuming that darien survives that long, and they are just 1/1s, maybe 2/2s or 3/3s at best.
Now, why don't you just Conqueror's Pledge for 5 mana and you have the 6 soldiers right away? Without even needing Darien out. I think that your deck should be able to generate a good amount of tokens without him and a CRAZY amount with him.You want only self-pain cards that provide other benefits, like Mana Vault or Mana Crypt if budget is not a problem, pain-lands are ok but you lack Ancient Tomb and City of Brass.
Then, I see that you go hard on the indestructible thing for protection, but
1) indestructible does not save you from the best (and common) removal spells in the format Swords to Plowshares Path to Exile Merciless Eviction Hallowed Burial Chaos Warp Toxic Deluge Cyclonic Rift nor from sacrifice effect,
2) many of your indestructible sources seem weak or slow
I think that you should use protection like Lightning Greaves and Mother of Runes for spot removal and Rootborn Defenses for mass removal if you really want to, but the best defense against removal is to have a deck that can actually recover using cards from your hand.
Then I see that you have a strong lifegain sub theme. Now, some things are efficient and mono white classics, like Soul Warden and Soul's Attendant, but you don't really want to have Healer of the Pride occupying a precious 4cmc slot orNoble Purpose in a 5cmc slot. Also, Anointer Priest is garbage because costs twice a soul sister but triggers only on your stuff and only on tokens, too situational.
Devout Invocation and Nomads' Assembly are bad too, both cost a lot of mana and require you to be already winning but don't do anything if you are behind, I'd cut them for Decree of Justice Secure the Wastes Increasing Devotion
Finally, classic anthems are bad. Very bad. Hall of Triumph Intangible Virtue Glorious Anthem Honor of the Pure Phantom General these things are just trash. You need like AT LEAST 4 of these effects to have an army that can destroy the opponents and win the game. If you draw just a couple of them its just not enough and they are dead cards, if you draw too many there is a good chance that you didn't draw enough token generators and you have no soldiers.
I think that the good approach is to go directly from 1/1s to 20/20s. You do this by using exponential pumping, like Coat of Arms Mirror Entity Jazal Goldmane and things like that. The benefits are that when you are ready you win out of nowhere and nobody sees you as a threat until then and also you don't use tons of card slots for minimal pumping. But, more importantly, dropping the +1/+1 effects opens you the option of using Skullclamp. The card is just bonkers and, ifyou can fuel it, you just win the game, assuming none destroys it on the spot. You also run Steelshaper's Gift, Enlightened Tutor and Open the Armory to find Skullclamp so that you virtually have 4 copies in the deck.
Ah, cut Caged Sun for Extraplanar Lens, its the only mana doubler worth considering in my experience, the other ones just die the turn you tap out to play them. And find room for Martial Coup that is both sweeper and token generator.
It may seem that I'm overly criticizing here, of course you can ignore some (if not all) of my advices if you are not convinced but I love Darien, I have played many of the bad things you are playing and eventually cut them out, just wish that someone told me these things so that I wouldn't have wasted time on bad cards. The cards may seem fun in theory but when you play and the deck doesn't work at all I guarantee that you feel only frustration and no fun.
2 weeks ago
Hi Darth_Savage, thank you for your reply.
About the Lone Rider Flip: it might just be that im too dumb to use the editor, but I just couldn't find the cards front page name in there.The thing about the Blade Splicer is that i currently do not own any copies of it, so i cant try it out in real life right now. But i couldn't ignore the fact that its really good, and that's why its in my newer deck that made altering a golem deck i found on here.Ive also had the idea to put in Sundering Growth, but as my first deck i went really simplistic and found 4Rootborn Defenses to be better than 4Sundering Growth. But i will consider using it in my newer deck, as that one is Selesnya.The link to my new deck: Green-White Golems copy.
2 weeks ago
Hey, if $250 total budget then you're already way over budget because Land Tax is a $25 card and Concordant Crossroads is a $15 card both are currently not being counted in the total of the deck. Even if have a low budget you can still play a bunch of the Selesyna dual lands. The manabase here is really bad, 36 Basic lands? Cutting 10-11 Basic lands will not hurt the manabase or Land Tax's ability, there's still plenty of Basic lands. You're not going to draw Land Tax every game and in games you don't draw it having duals will help to play spells.
Consider these lands:
- Command Tower: Commander staple for $1
- Canopy Vista: works well with Basic lands
- Selesnya Sanctuary: works well with Basic lands
- Fortified Village: works well with Basic lands
- Sunpetal Grove: works well with Basic lands
- Temple of Plenty
- Stirring Wildwood
- Blossoming Sands
- Graypelt Refuge
- Grove of the Guardian: create an 8/8 token that can then be populated
- Vitu-Ghazi, the City-Tree: repeatable token maker on a land
Also consider these cards:
- Imperious Perfect: repeatable Elf token maker and lord for Elf tokens
- Mentor of the Meek: can be a draw engine with Rhys tokens, four mana create a token and draw a card. Very good with populate
- Rampaging Baloths: good finisher because of trample, creates 4/4 Beast tokens by playing lands
- Mirror Entity: make all tokens huge power and toughness for a turn, is an Elf
- Hornet Queen: flying deathtouch bees are very scary for your opponents especially when you start populating them
- Swords to Plowshares: Commander staple white removal spell
- Beast Within: Commander staple green removal spell
- Sundering Growth: one of the better populate spells
- Rootborn Defenses: one of the better populate spells, protect token army from board wipe or removal
- Advent of the Wurm: a 5/5 token with trample is very good with populate
- Epic Struggle: win the game by creating and populating tokens
- Oblivion Ring: Commander staple white removal
Good luck with your deck.
3 weeks ago
The biggest weakness of the Red-White decks in commander is card draw, those are the colours who draw the least. Commander (assuming you play multiplayer) isn't a sprint race, it's a marathon, If you run out of cards or you're the guy that's only geting one card each turn, you are going to lose.
You have to get several artifacts that can help you with that. Ghirapur Orrery is a good and cheap one, Staff of Nin another budget option, Culling Dais because sacrifice outlets are also good, The Immortal Sun is a bit more expensive but really good, Loreseeker's Stone, Oracle's Vault.
Some equipments Mask of Memory, Rogue's Gloves, Skullclamp, Infiltration Lens.
In red you have access to "impulsive draw", you exile the top cad of your library and then you may use it until end of turn. Grenzo, Havoc Raiser, Stromkirk Occultist, Outpost Siege, Vance's Blasting Cannons Flip Etali, Primal Storm.
And also Wheel of Fortune effects: cheaper options are Wheel of Fate, Magus of the Wheel, Reforge the Soul, Runehorn Hellkite, Dragon Mage and Knollspine Dragon.
About 8 to 12 of the lower cost ones is a good number to have in you deck so you consistently refill your hand.
You may also want to power up your guys, otherwise they will be hitting like a wet noodle. More options for your deck are Cathars' Crusade, Dictate of Heliod, Call for Unity and if you end up with many artifacts in your deck you can also have Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer. Dragon Throne of Tarkir is a bit bad because it's quite expensive to use (nine mana until you finally use it for the first time and your bigger creature wont be attacking) but maybe is worth giving it a try.
Now you decided to go wide with you creatures, some tokens may help you: Assemble the Legion is a no brainer, Huatli, Warrior Poet is quite affordable at the moment (for a Planeswalker), she pops dinosaurs and can help your guys get though.
Some instants to save your guys from board wipes: Boros Charm definitely a must, other options are Make a Stand, Rootborn Defenses. If you have many "When enters the battlefield" creatures or your opponents usually play board wipes that don't just destroy or deal damage to the creatures, then Ghostway and Eerie Interlude may be what you need.
1 month ago
Having a way to protect your tokens against board wipes is another good thing to keep in mind. Rootborn Defenses and Dauntless Escort make your guys indestructible, which gets around Wrath of God. Loxodon Hierarch helps if regeneration is an option.