Ancient Den

Legality

Format Legality
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Planechase (HOP) Common
Mirrodin (MRD) Common

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Ancient Den

Artifact Land

(Ancient Den isn't a spell.)

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Ancient Den Discussion

Boza on Loadout Format

5 days ago

"Those uncommons may have pushed humans over the edge (it gave them a near painless mana base) but that doesnt take away from the value of Cavern of Souls and Aether Vial or the fact that it still plays around 35 rares." - But that is exactly what is supposed to happen in a normal format. Lets look at those rares. Meddling Mage before the release of Ixalan? 6 bucks according to mtggoldfish. A month after Ixalan? Tripled to 18 and now is near 30.

Is it because the card got better suddenly? No, the card stayed exactly the same. The shell for it changed and it got good.

And you still conflate rarity with power level of a card, which is NOT correct. Ok, I am gonna say this once so listen carefully: The only format where rarity has any impact on power level is Limited. Nowhere else.

Can you take an average Pauper deck and spike a small modern tournament? I think that Pauper Affinity is better than Modern Affinity and that deck plays only commons. The most busted card in that deck? Ancient Den and the artifact landsm, which are commons.

Look, by now it should be clear to you too - what you are trying to do is not possible the way you want to do it. "and I'm sure you have at least a bit more in you." Yes. The best idea I can you at this point - stop trying to make up a new format without trying the ones that exist that do the same things you are trying to do.

Pauper and Canadian Highlander (with proxies, cause even the legal gold-powered power 9 are expensive af) are grteat options to try. Pauper is close to being tierless with few decks emerging as ever so slightly better. CanHan is I think the closest thing to a tierless format.

encelade on $300 Avacyn the Purifier

3 weeks ago

I played the deck a bit more and made the following changes for more consistency: Ancient Den & Great Furnace (to enable Puresteel Paladin, artefact lands from the original list), Command Beacon & Strip Mine. After lowering the basic land count I will take out either Blood Moon or Ruination and put back Temur Battle Rage. It is an extra target for Sunforger, and I found as you mentioned that reach is often needed to close the games. I replaced Buried Ruin by Mistveil Plains to combo with Sunforger. Finally I came across the card Comeuppance which looks quite fun, so I will try it.

Spirits on Arahbo, Budget... for Cats EDH

1 month ago

Hey TzickyT,

I'd feel pretty good going into a game with this, I can see some win-con's:

1) T2 Eladamri's Call > Lost Leonin. T3 Lost Leonin, T4 Silverblade Paladin (or Duelist's Heritage/Berserk/Ajani, Caller of the Pride) swing for lethal Infect.

2) Ramp mana staying under the radar into an Felidar Sovereign

3) Congregation at Dawn into a Shalai, Voice of Plenty / Archangel of Thune / Spike Feeder into Infinite Life

4) Mirari's Wake into a White Sun's Zenith and attack with a Triumph of the Hordes

5) Stonehewer Giant pulling a Grafted Exoskeleton onto an Eminence Skyhunter Skirmisher/Adorned Pouncer attack for lethal infect

6) A Bloodforged Battle-Axe supported by the Puresteel Paladin and Leonin Shikari annihilating opponents with a Rancor

Lots of fun cat stuff here!

To support the Puresteel Paladin, you need to include a Tree of Tales and Ancient Den these Artifact lands add to the Artifact count. They can straight replace just basic Forest and Plains and they don't cost much.

During your eval, if you finding you tutor Bloodforged Battle-Axe with Open the Armory and Steelshaper's Gift quite a bit, and find the mechanic is working, it can be supported by a Sigarda's Aid. Hammer of Nazahn already does the same thing, and is also tutorable by Nazahn, Revered Bladesmith which is why I wouldn't suggest it off the hop, why not just Open the Armory the Hammer of Nazahn right? But something to keep on the Maybeboard. I feel like this won't be the prevalent win con though.

Future priorities for $ would be Land upgrades, that is the worst part about commander format, but it's looking pretty balanced. If you find Puresteel Paladin still isn't activating when you play him, also can keep a Talisman of Unity or Selesnya Signet on the Maybeboard, and go down a land pulling/ramping spell to help improve the % he works. If your finding that he usually triggers when you play him, then I'd rather have the land pulling/ramping spell because it filters the land out of the deck, so your drawing playable cards not lands, and it has synergy with Mirari's Wake.

Nice deck.

Rider1860 on Brago, King Eternal - Complete Guide

1 month ago

Well I keep taking long enough writing down my suggestions to add that it kicks me off. As such I will write a comment for each section I have ideas for. I have played Brago for most of my time playing commander and like to think I know my way around the block with him. On the other hand I had completely missed some of these cards like Tsabo's Web and it won me a game since I added it.

I would suggest adding the artifact lands Ancient Den, Seat of the Synod, and Darksteel Citadel to the list. They can be searched with Trinket Mage or Tezzeret the Seeker and Darksteel Citadel survives land destruction.

I run a Terramorphic Expanse, Evolving Wilds, and Flood Plain in addition to Flooded Strand. The extra deck thin is helpful and more than one fetch works best with Sun Titan in my experience. They are slightly slower but still work.

Seraph Sanctuary can be good if you run many angels. There are enough with good ETB effects to consider and I have ran Brago angel tribal as a casual style of Brago.

Spirits on Arahbo Kitty Voltron

2 months ago

Hi Pandistoteles,

Looking pretty good, fellow Arahbo, Roar of the World player, Arahbo, Xenagos... for Cats EDH

You have Evolving Wilds & Grasslands for mana fixing, don't forget there is Terramorphic Expanse as well.

Temple Garden would be a huge upgrade, as a forest and a plains it can be searched and pulled with various different ramp spells, eg: Nature's Lore can pull Temple Garden.

You need Sylvan Library, Sterling Grove can tutor it, also Enlightened Tutor (put on top of deck which sucks), but with so little draw in Selesnya the Sylvan Library is key.

Since you run Karametra, God of Harvests, have you considered Rhonas the Indomitable? Any Cat + Eminence = Rhonas the Indomitable can attack! 5/5 deathtouch, indestructible that can give trample to your Voltron cat! That's tempo.

Hammer of Nazahn is key to a Voltron strategy, especially the Bloodforged Battle-Axe. I would run an Eladamri's Call to pull Nazahn, Revered Bladesmith who can pull Hammer of Nazahn to the battlefield. It can also pull a Dryad Arbor as a modular / ramp spell too.

With so many artifacts you need a Puresteel Paladin, 1) He draws you a card when you play an artifact, that is amazing 2) He makes equip costs ! 3) With Leonin Shikari you can manipulate equipment at will. Add an Ancient Den and Tree of Tales gives you 2 more artifacts that you play as lands to get to the metalcraft on Puresteel Paladin. Sigarda's Aid also enables Voltron.

Parallel Lives (like Anointed Procession) is a CMC4 Doubling Season, won't double Fleecemane Lion monstrosity, but thats such a small sacrifice for the mana. There's also Primal Vigor but it's the same CMC as Doubling Season anyway.

Path to Exile is an awesome removal and a modular ramp if you need it as well (and have a creature).

Skyhunter Skirmisher is a nice built-in Doublestrike, which is awesome with equipments (especially ones with trample), but he does have a High CMC.

Heroic Intervention is a nice saving card, but with Privileged Position your probably okay.

Sword of Light and Shadow and the protection: makes it so you can't use the Eminence ability on the equipped creature. Maybe worth it for the recursion but keep that in mind.

I really dislike Sword of Vengeance, I've read all the articles on it, I don't think the equip makes this viable. I'd almost always rather have a Chariot of Victory in most cases, or in this case probably a Umezawa's Jitte.

Lost Leonin is a nice cat, with Ajani, Caller of the Pride + Eminence he eliminates a player with 10 infect. I personally use other Doublestrike enablers like Silverblade Paladin and Berserk + several other creature tutors to try and get him off quite early. Understand if you don't like the infect mechanic, but I would think about him, with Eminence he's a 2-turn timer as well.

Steelshaper's Gift can help get some consistency on pulling Swiftfoot Boots or the such to your hand. Lightning Greaves also doesn't work with the Eminence trigger, I decided the upside of the equip wasn't worth the Shroud. Also once you put a Lightning Greaves onto a cat, you can't equip anything else to it (due to shroud). If you have another creature you can Equip it off then Equip the other Equip, then Re-Equip it for , but leaves him unprotected for a second, and requires control of a second creature. When your playing Voltron, you usually don't have a bunch, but maybe you have tokens. Just thought I would mention anyway.

I always like Masterwork of Ingenuity in Voltron too, worst case I'm copying a mana rock and ramping, best case I'm doubling my best equipment. With a Sigarda's Aid out, yah!

Stoneforge Mystic is amazing, on a similar note Stonehewer Giant requires an immediate response too. I've found him a high threat level, and once out I'm just pulling solutions, like: Protection from , Trample, Lifelink, Deathtouch, Etc, whatever is needed to overcome the current blocking / board position, instant speed, and instant equip. Doesn't get much better than that!

I'd have to confirm, but I don't think Nacatl War-Pride extra tokens enter attacking, I think they just double the tokens but lose the attacking. They doubled ones may stay though, but might be exiled still, I would look into it. If they don't attack and don't stay, I'm not sure I would run him.

Not sure Ajani Unyielding is worth the mana cost, but, he does draw cards which is never a bad thing.

With more tutors, I found that I don't need to run both Behemoth Sledge and Loxodon Warhammer because instead I could just always tutor Loxodon Warhammer when I would have drawn Behemoth Sledge to get more consistent use of the more powerful equipments. But you've got some mass mana ramping going on here might not matter.

Hope you find something here useful, I would do Puresteel Paladin + Ancient Den + Tree of Tales at the very least anyway. +1

NV_1980 on Whipping out the 'facts

2 months ago

Hi DanzaFanza,

Glad to know my feedback inspired you. As for your feedback, it's inspiring too. I think you're right on point concerning Prototype Portal and Ancient Den. I do not own either so I need to get my hands on them (through trades, I've stopped buying cards). Also I need to figure out what to swap for Portal.

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Thanks again!

CharonSquared on A Sliver of My Will to Live

2 months ago

Why use Tree of Tales and Ancient Den? Doesn't it just give your opponents targets for artifact destruction spells if they feel like blowing up your lands?

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