Ancient Den

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Format Legality
Legacy Legal
Vintage Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Pauper Legal

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Planechase Common
Mirrodin Common

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Ancient Den

Artifact Land

(Ancient Den isn't a spell.)

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Ancient Den Discussion

Austin_Smith_of_Cards on Sphinx

3 days ago

Ancient Den and Vault of Whispers should be included as artifact lands. Not extremely important, but always helpful.

Sculpting Steel is an incredible card overall, but it also has infinite combo interaction with your commander (copy Sharuum, legendary rule forces you to sacrifice one, recur it with the other's ability, recycle for infinite etb/ltb, use Disciple of the Vault as outlet).

Inventors' Fair is a nice land that slows gains life early on, then you can sacrifice it to tutor for a game-winning artifact.

Master Transmuter allows you to do ALL the shenanigans. Bounce an artifact that's a chump blocker/about to die, put down something silly like Sphinx of the Steel Wind or Darksteel Forge.

Time Sieve is an artifact that allows you to take extra turns. No further explanation is needed. Oh, it also has an infinite combo with Thopter Assembly.

twistedmage on A is for Artifact

1 week ago

I would recommend some artifact lands Ancient Den or Vault of Whispers. Maybe a Skeleton Shard for recursion?

Daedalus19876 on Consulate of Terror

1 week ago

Hey! Sorry it took me a while to look this over :(

When I look over an EDH deck, I generally consider a few factors - mana base, removal, card draw, win-cons, etc. Let's take a quick look through those:

Your lands are distributed in proportion to your spells, which is good. Your curve basically starts at 3 mana, which is something to be aware of (since it shares a slot with your commander, you will frequently have to choose between casting your commander and casting something more aggressive from your hand), but it allows you to play more tapped lands. Overall, though, I generally don't play more than 37 lands in any EDH deck, so that could clear up some space for you. Perhaps put a few cheap mana rocks like Orzhov Signet and Mana Vault in those slots...

Ancient Den and Vault of Whispers seem odd here - I try not to play them in EDH unless I'm heavily into Metalcraft or something, because it's easy for them to be destroyed by your opponents' Vandalblast or Shatterstorm. I'd cut them to be honest unless I'm missing something.

You have a large number of removal pieces - mostly hitting creatures, but at least a few of them hit non-creatures as well. Overall, you've hit most of the important ones, with a few exceptions:

I'd say the three cheap ones you're missing are Oblation, Go for the Throat, and Anguished Unmaking. I'd personally put them in over Tribute to Hunger (gives your opponents too much choice), Condemn (too conditional), and Fragmentize (also too conditional).

Your exiling enchantments are fine, though I'd try to pick up a copy of the new Amonkhet one with flash (Cast Out, I think?).

Here's where your deck seems weakest. You basically don't have any card draw here (Read the Bones is the only dedicated option). While your curve is high, which somewhat mitigates that (your spells have high impact-per-card), I'd try to find space for a LOT more card draw.

There are too many good card draw options for me to list them all (just google "Orzhov EDH card draw"), here are a few outstanding options: Necropotence, Mind's Eye, Mesa Enchantress, Harvester of Souls, Well of Lost Dreams...

I'm a bit uncertain what your win-cons are, to be honest. Kambal's draining effect may get them within range, but you don't have many ways to hit them for the last, say, twenty damage.

Aetherflux Reservoir is always a good win-con of course, but I feel like this deck could use something like Karlov of the Ghost Council or Archangel of Thune to finish out games. Or you could add Exquisite Blood for the famous combo...

Overall, the deck seems fun! There are a few cards I might cut, though, to make way for more card draw and win-cons: Tainted Remedy (very situational), Memoricide (depends too much on meta), Sphere of Safety (you don't have enough enchantments, and Ghostly Prison is often better), Retreat to Hagra (too low-impact), Bloodbond Vampire (too much mana for its effect), Butcher of Malakir (too much mana, too few creatures), and Opaline Unicorn (there are better ramp options).
I hope this helps! :) Feel free to tag me if you need any more help. Also, a longer description helps people make suggestions ;)

NensouHiebara on Sram, Senior Edificer | Equipment Voltron

2 weeks ago

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Used Ancient Tomb before. At the time, I needed space for the cycling lands and I decided to keep Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx over it.

BrandonMurrayBMM on Sram, Senior Edificer | Equipment Voltron

2 weeks ago

Sorry but there is no reason not to run the 0 drop equipments. It makes your deck a 93 card deck and in a 99 deck format, that's relevant. Their effects are relevant in combat and certainly not useless at all or you must not have played enough Sram. Extra toughness and vigilance matter the most but drawing cards is good regardless. The deck isn't cheerios just because if you run them, you run them because they are good. They are also are broke with Golem-Skin Gauntlets and Puresteel, like most things are. Same with Flagstones of Trokair, Eiganjo Castle, and of course fetches. You run significantly worse land so there is no reason these shouldn't be in over them and yes fetches do help deck thin and do matter with Sun Titan. You should run them. The other 2 swords are still 100% good enough to run and space should be made for them. Flickering Ward is insane and I'd find room for it and Angelic Destiny as well, probably only other aura worthwhile. Skullclamp is broken and should be ran. Dispatch is arguable better than Path as you will almost always have metalcraft which is helped by the Ancient Den and Darksteel Citadel you "dismissed" and aren't running. With those, Mox Opal should be run as it's essentially Mox Pearl. I'd also suggest Mana Vault and Grim Monolith. And the land destruction like Armageddon and Ravages of War are needed and once again combos with Flagstones and Darksteel Citadel. They allow you to control the table and actually kill 3 other players with the time provided or secure your win in a 1v1. Nearly every card in your notable exclusions are great and 100% usable. They certainly should be run, but you come off arrogant when dismissing them for no good reason other than "I dont wanna play these cards because I can't evaluate cards", not to mention you are handicapping yourself while doing it.

Daedalus19876 on Jor Kadeen, Metalcraft

4 weeks ago

My first advice would be that your artifact count is simply too low to reliably hit Metalcraft. I would add the artifact lands (Darksteel Citadel, Ancient Den, and Great Furnace) and more strong, cheap equipment (like O-Naginata, Tenza, Godo's Maul, Sword of the Animist, Inquisitor's Flail, Fireshrieker, etc).

I've never liked Hero's Blade much, since its equip cost is so prohibitively high unless you attach it to a legendary creature.

Mirran Crusader seems both on-theme and powerful. Bastion Protector can protect your commander pretty easily. Silverblade Paladin and Duelist's Heritage give that most-sought-after keyword, double strike. Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder and Akiri, Line-Slinger both seem really good here.

Heliod, God of the Sun and Hundred-Handed One seem a bit odd here.

Leonin Shikari and Shimmer Myr have both been disappointments to me in the past.

Scroll Rack is super handy with Land Tax, and just a good card overall...

Wheel of Fortune over Reforge the Soul obviously if you can afford it.

Careful with Sword of Light and Shadow and Sword of Fire and Ice and Sword of War and Peace. Protection from your own colors can bite you sometimes.

I didn't have much time to really make an in-depth analysis at the moment, so I'll take a little more time to look it over later, but you definitely get my +1 ;)

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