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Thraben Standard Bearer
Creature — Human Soldier
, , Discard a card: Put a 1/1 white Human Soldier creature token onto the battlefield.
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Thraben Standard Bearer Discussion
6 months ago
4x Thraben Doomsayer is in my human deck and I highly recommend it.
It's better than Thraben Standard Bearer at any rate. :)
7 months ago
Thraben Standard Bearer make human soldier tokens, but discarding a card is what I am trying to avoid. Aegis of the Gods may help slow down cards like Inquisition of Kozilek. I'm not entirely married to the swords if there are cheaper (both money and mana cost) options to buff and even protect creatures. But Rebuff the Wicked and Dawn Charm would be good to try out until I have money to buy the swords.
7 months ago
Shane Oh, no problem. Pauper and Peasant are really similar. A small number of uncommons are allowed in Peasant but not Pauper. As far as your other suggestions, I had considered Deadly Grub and Beetleback Chief previously and determined that their CMC was too high for their intended purpose.
Deadly Grub would be used as sacrifice fodder or free blocks so he would be going away rather quickly. The 6/1 shroud that it leaves behind is definitely not something to be laughed at, but I felt like Dragon Egg (which is the card that takes the grub's spot) was more useful #1. because it can block small threats, and #2. it creates a flier that guarantees a higher chance at getting in damage. But he can definitely contend for that spot depending on whether your meta is flier-heavy or not.
Beetleback Chief is essentially 3 triggers for 4 mana in this deck. and yes, one of them is a 2/2 body, which is nice. The tokens are created on entering the battlefield, it allows Undying Evil to do some serious work as well, but I think it just comes down to the mana cost at 4 total with double red.
As for Empty the Warrens and Captain's Call, it's the same kind of deal. Empty the Warrens is at best, in this deck, 4 tokens for 4 mana at sorcery speed. I very rarely will have the opportunity late-game to take advantage of storm. Captain's Call just seems underwhelming to me. I think that if you want a heavy hitting token maker like that, you'd want to go with something like Battle Screech or Triplicate Spirits. They have similar CMCs due to Triplicate Spirits' ability, and they have the possibility of creating many more tokens because of flashback, or because of convoke allowing you to cast Triplicate Spirits fairly early. Oh, and they're fliers too so that might come in handy, although it is meta dependent.
Icatian Crier didn't work for me for similar reasons. This deck is meant to take over the game around turn 5 or 6, so even if you were able to get her down on turn 3 or 4, you could only probably use the ability once or twice at best. I tend to find myself low on cards in the late game, and finding one to discard might become a problem. Perhaps if you had more card draw in your deck such as Tormenting Voice, she could work for you. Or if you planned to bring the deck into the late game, you could include cards like Terminate and Cenn's Enlistment. Thraben Standard Bearer is a good card to compare to as well.
Thanks for taking time to help with some suggestions!
7 months ago
First: Thraben Standard Bearer is honestly terrible in this particular deck setup. You have nothing to discard for it other than useless lands.
Second: This looks like a token deck, so you should probably have Rhys the Redeemed as your commander instead of just a random creature. You want to have it on the field as much as possible, and it's so easy to kill that you won't have it on the field for more than a turn cycle or two.
Third: I would personally love it if you added more squirrels to it :)
9 months ago
1 year ago
Too much land my dude. Your average CMC is 3, and you only have 3 cards that are above a 6 drop. Since you have ramp in Mirari's Wake, Cultivate, Farseek, Kodama's Reach, Gilded Lotus, the signet, Sol Ring, Somberwald Sage, Yavimaya Elder, Avacyn's Pilgrim, etc you can easily cut at least 4-5 lands and still have too much mana flowing. For card suggestions, if you need budget ones to keep the deck under $300, I like Thraben Standard Bearer (combos with Sigarda) Courageous Outrider (since G/W usually has a harder time with card draw), and Thraben Doomsayer (free tokens). Other than those guys I'd maybe suggest more Tribal/Token enchantments (Doubling Season, Parallel Lives, etc) to buff your humans. Hope this helps!
1 year ago
Personally I'd drop 2 of the Evolving Wilds in favor of 2 more Swamp to not rely too much on lands that either later in the game end up tapped, on that same note Mortuary Mire was never really good (sorry may not apply to Standard. I'm more drafter) so instead a third Vessel of Ephemera would be a recommendation.
I also suggest having at least 2 of a two drop or lower creature of some kind that can either get dumped quickly into the grave or benefits from you having Delirium. Such cards include Cryptbreaker and Thraben Standard Bearer, both allow you to discard a card you don't need to get a token, essentially fueling Delirium quickly within 3 or so turns if you play your cards right. Geier Reach Sanitarium allows you to loot, also helping fuel Delirium, Strange Augmentation buffs an enchanted creature which is helpful for your Desperate Sentry since it makes it an even larger threat that needs to be dealt with.
All in all this is a really good deck, kudos to you for making B/W Delirium and using Descend Upon the Fishermen
1 year ago
You may be right about the disadvantages of Thraben Standard Bearer. Looking at the rest of the deck, I'm having a hard time seeing what you'd WANT to discard for 1 human token, if you had the mana available. I was more taking the angle of:
Opening Hand: No Thraben Inspector
He'd be there more for utility. Maybe test putting in 2, just to raise the possibility of having a 1st turn drop?