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Gavony Township Discussion
4 days ago
-Birds of Paradise is legal in the Brew-Off. It's the best mana dork, no contest. I don't like Arbor Elf that much, as he's not always active. Given your wealth of mana dorks, Gavony Township might give you extra late game.
-Lingering Souls with your self mill is great. It stalls aggresssive decks and gives midrange decks fits. Control can deal with it a bit easier, but it's still card advantage. Did I mention those Gavony Townships?
-Sever the Bloodline is okay, but I'm not sure you want to be wasting a removal slot for it. That's just something that will be borne out in testing, and it's great at answering a lot of popular threats. Abrupt Decay, Putrefy, Hero's Downfall, Devour Flesh... so many options.
-If you need a discard outlet, instead of going for the rickety 4C plan, you could play Liliana of the Veil. She lets you bin cards, gains card advantage with the help of flashback spells, and stops Geist of Saint Traft/Thrun, the Last Troll.
-Fiend Hunter is similarly not exciting to me. This format has a lot of efficient removal, so all he does in a lot of games is give your opponent an extra ETB trigger and some tempo.
-Blood Baron of Vizkopa is amazing. Lifelink helps you stabilize against aggro, and it has protection from so many of the format's best spells. I remember your reaction to Stormbreath Dragon (and my reactions to losing to it a lot), and Blood Baron is the WB equivalent.
jbclark1985 on Junk
2 weeks ago
-1 Abrupt Decay
3 weeks ago
Yea I like the Rhino too, I felt like he was less important in this build because I already have the 4 Kitchen Finks and Gavony Township shenanigans for lifegain. I do still have one though, because I can't decide which is more relevant to the deck between him and Tireless Tracker. I think they're both good enough that they can be one-of's since they aren't central to the theme of the deck anyways.
Rhino is a huge bomb against aggro, but the decks that this deck struggles with can all outclass it pretty easily. Reality Smasher, Karn Liberated, and Primeval Titan all come down around the same time in their respective decks, but are obviously far more powerful.
3 weeks ago
Honestly, not really sure why this needs the white, especially if budget is a goal? Seems like Gavony Township isn't adding that much, for such an expensive card (something like Oran-Rief, the Vastwood might do a similar job if you really want counters), and maybe for removal instead of Banishing Light, something like Beast Within, if you really feel like you need it? Doing that would, at least, make the deck a lot simpler, which is generally a good idea (and it'd make sure you always have forests, instead of being stuck with plains-only hands in a deck full of green cards).
Finally, I'd like to point out that Chameleon Colossus is 100% an Elk and would fit right in with the others.
3 weeks ago
@Shadowdarkraity: The problem with Midnight Haunting and Beckon Apparition is they aren't very mana efficient. Both cards shine when you have Intangible Virtue or Favorable Winds on the table, because you basically pay 3 mana for a 4/4 flying, flash creature split in two.
If you don't have an anthem or lord on the table, you're paying a lot of mana and a card for a 2/2 flyer with flash. The same goes for Beckon Apparition, which is a 1/1 flyer with flash...and that's it.
So when you're ahead, Beckon Apparition/Midnight Haunting are really good. But so is having a Rattlechains. When you're behind, Beckon Apparition/Midnight Haunting aren't that great, whereas Rattlechains/Selfless Spirit/some other spirit can help you stabilize the board or protect something important (like a Geist of Saint Traft).
Which brings me to another question: have you ever thought about B/W Tokens? It benefits from the cards you're wanting to play more effectively. You can also add some blue to the deck so you can Polymorph a token into something huge (like Emrakul, the Aeons Torn) since you don't play any creatures in the deck (all of your stuff comes from instants/sorceries).
As for splashing other colors, what you'd do is play 8+ fetchlands and one of each shockland that's in your colors. So to splash green, let's say, you'd play something like:
...this would let you play 4x Collected Company, 1+ Elder Pine of Jukai, and 2+ Gavony Township. If you up the fetchland count to 10 (4x Flooded Strand, 2x Misty Rainforest, 4x Windswept Heath), you could also play Noble Hierarch, Avacyn's Pilgrim, or Arbor Elf. Chord of Calling also becomes easier to cast when you go for more fetchlands, with the downside being there's not too many green spirits to help convoke it out faster.
In other words, you have very few green cards/abilities, but you always have the mana to use them, without mana screwing yourself out of your main color combination of U/W.
To splash black, it's mostly the same:
3 weeks ago
I like the ideas but it seems to be going away from the token theme of the deck. Intangible Virtue I could see get replaced. But Midnight Haunting and Beckon Apparition are kinda stables in the deck. Now one card which I really like Aether Vial. Now what I most likely do is (when I buy the deck) I will buy doomed traveler first. Then when I can, replace it with the Aether Vial. Spell Queller seems like a really good card. It's just for the theme of the deck I have A hard time figuring out where to put it, or what to replace it with. But Splashing with Black seems like a really good Idea. Actually, this deck used to be B/W. But a person at fnm said it might be a good idea to which from Blac to blue. Which I really liked the Idea of. So I know how good Lingering Souls can be. Especially on the theme of this deck. But Collected Company is a card I have heard of before, and now looking at it in correlation to my deck seems really good. As well as Gavony Township. If you have a good way of implementing Black or Green while still keeping the token theme then let me know (I honestly have no Idea how to spash very well.
3 weeks ago
You for sure need 4x Spell Quellers. I'd also recommend 4x Rattlechains and 4x Selfless Spirit. To make room, I'd cut Anointed Procession, Intangible Virtue, Not Forgotten,Beckon Apparition, and Midnight Haunting. Aether Vial in place of Doomed Traveler would be ideal, but you're working on a budget.
Is a green or black splash within your budget? Lingering Souls and Vault of the Archangel would be worth the black. Green gives Collected Company, Elder Pine of Jukai, and Gavony Township. Green also gives mana dorks, which can be helpful in place of Aether Vial.
1 month ago
From what you've told me you want this to be an aggro deck but it looks like it could be a solid human deck that outlasts and goes into mid-range. ETB effects seem to be great for this deck so why not double up on that with a few cards like Fiend Hunter, Oketra's Monument, and Metallic Mimic. For land you mentioned Gavony Township but they recently reprinted Sunpetal Grove so go for it.
I've personally been on the wrong end of an Oketra's Monument which will effectively add a warrior with any ETB (non human sadly but 1/1 token so value) and Metallic Mimic gives all those other creatures a head start. right now its way up there in competitive standard. There are a few cards from Standard that might do you some good. from Kaladesh and Aether Revolt I'd try Sram's Expertise, Renegade Rallier, Maulfist Revolutionary but Metallic Mimic is so good.
Answers to things that you could play Settle the Wreckage which ive seen tear up ramunap red and Authority of the Consuls has seen some great play in my group and would help with mid-range. and while Oblivion Ring might only be 2W, Ixalan's Binding is a great card and totally worth the extra 1.