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chosenone124 on Adarkar Valkyrie vs Licid

2 days ago

I control Adarkar Valkyrie and Dominating Licid. I activate the Valkyrie targetting the Licid. After this resolves, I activate the Licid enchanting something (the Valkyrie works I guess)

My opponent Disenchants my Licid. Does Valkyrie trigger?

deadmanwaltzing on The Consul Will See You Now

3 days ago

Cards to add/consider:

Disenchant
Chains of Mephistopheles
Nether Void
Faerie Macabre
Static Orb
Rest in Peace / Helm of Obedience & Accompanying package (maybe)
Kismet
Relic of Progenitus
Wrath of God // Damnation

Need to: Re-evaluate deck's win conditions.
Deck should look to play out like Keranos Blue Moon - examine Mindcrank combo w/ Bloodchief Ascension (?) Look for good blue/green hate too.

TeamG on Vuelo de Fulgor

3 days ago

Dado que usas Ethereal Armor por que no Seal of Cleansing en vez de Disenchant?

GoneWithLaw on Pretty Boros Angels

1 week ago

Saw your decklist on the EDH discord, figured I'd drop in with some suggestions.

The first one is regarding your commander. I think Iroas may be better off as part of the 99 as support for Aurelia, the Warleader. Giving your creatures menace and protecting them from battle damage is nice, but it's somewhat tricky to have a focused win condition built around that. Aurelia, on the other hand, gives you access being able to untap your creatures an extra time each turn, which can lead to many neat interactions. Repeating cards like Sun Titan, Tajic, Blade of the Legion, and Hanweir Garrison nets you massive value, not to mention the fun times with Combat Celebrant! Iroas is important support in that deck, as your opponents will heavily struggle with two bouts of menacing creatures thrown over their way.

With that in mind, I'll take time to cover some card choices that I don't think are pulling their weight in your deck. These comments will be guided by working around Aurelia, whom I strongly feel is a better fit for what your deck is trying to accomplish.

Basandra, Battle Seraph: I absolutely adore the artwork on this card, but the effect is underwhelming. On hand, it's nice to lock down your opponents' spells during combat, but that means you can't play your own either! It's a double-edged sword you have to be careful of. If you're interested in the force to attack function she offers, consider goad cards like Grenzo, Havoc Raiser or Disrupt Decorum . They provide defense for you while forcing your opponents to go after each other, AND Grenzo's abilities work wonderfully with Aurelia.

Boros Elite as a 1-drop is rather overwhelming. In limited, a 1-drop 3/3 is pretty nice, but given how vanilla it is otherwise, I can't say it warrants a spot over something with more versatility.

Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder: I believe there are better ways of enabling Double Strike. You already have one of them in your deck, Duelist's Heritage, but instead I'd run True Conviction. Higher CMC, but it applies to all of your creatures instead of just one at a time!

Firemane Angel's massive CMC gives me cause for concern. The lifegain is minimal, and for 6 mana we can be doing a lot more (see True Conviction!)

Honored Crop-Captain is a tad on the weaker side when it comes to pumping. Getting more utility through cards like Spear of Heliod or Marshal's Anthem may be worth looking in to. While harder to cast, Captain of the Watch generates multiple bodies and gives your Soldiers (which you should be running quite a few!) a nice boost to boot.

Speaking of Soldiers, most of the ones you'll be running will be humans. Angel of Glory's Rise is an angel that gives you back your humans (likely to be soldiers), and can hose many black decks. Put this card on your radar if your local meta has zombies!

Iroas's Champion is another card thats a little on the weak side. Double strike is nice, but without consistent pumps it's not going to be a game-winner for you.

Jareth, Leonine Titan is a bit too defensive for my liking, especially when this deck very much wants to be on the offensive. Given the step casting cost, we may be better with either something cheaper, or a card more powerful for 6 mana, like Sun Titan.

Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas is MUCH better as a commander than as part of the 99. Given your lack of current recursion, I can't see this card surviving long enough to make use of its experience counters. That, and you currently only have 4 creatures with 5 or more power!

I do like Nobilis of War, but Balefire Liege is similar, pumps your creatures for blocking too (important!) and gives you extra value to your spellcasting.

Nyx-Fleece Ram is far too defensive for this kind of deck. If you're going to go for a defender, Wall of Omens at least nets you some card draw. In multiplayer, that kind of life gain isn't going to make a massive difference, so I believe you'd be better off trying to dig for more resources.

Razia, Boros Archangel is another card I love, but Aurelia truly leads the guild so much better than she does. Preventing damage is totally against what this deck is trying to do. If you're going for keyword soup, either Akroma would be a better fit (loss of Haste is annoying, however).

Thundersong Trumpeter has a good effect, but we can do better. You're already running Master Warcraft lets us pick and choose blockers, but we have Odric, Master Tactician that follows closely behind and would love to be in your 99.

Weapons Trainer is another weak anthem, in my opinion. You'd be better off with something giving a boost in addition to other utility, like Shefet Dunes.

Wojek Halberdiers is another card that only boosts itself... we want to share the love! Odric, Lunarch Marshal spreads around keywords like mono after high school prom. Just one instance is all you need for everyone else to get better all around!

Your mana base is mostly fine, but I'm not a huge fan of ETB tapped lands. You're getting pretty good utility out of yours, but look into getting Battlefield Forge as a cheap upgrade.

Swords to Plowshares is an immediate upgrade to Devouring Light, Reprisal, or Angelic Edict. It's seen recent reprints, so it should be too bad to get ahold of, plus it's great in any deck that runs White! For artifact/enchantment hate, a simple Disenchant or Forsake the Worldly is all you need.

If you like Deflecting Palm, you'll LOVE Comeuppance. I run it in every single White deck of mine, and it can totally steal games out of nowhere for you!

If you are looking for card draw, Reforge the Soul is nice, but there are a few more options to consider. Mentor of the Meek works well with the 1/1 soldiers you'll be creating. Skullclamp is another classic option for turning weenies into cards.

If you're running Sunforger, you're going to want a much larger package! Dawn Charm, Silence, Wear / Tear, and Wild Ricochet are some of my favorites in these colors.

Another instant to consider is Aurelia's Fury. It's great for controlling your opponents during your turn, or shutting down combos out of nowhere.

Finally, I'd like to suggest some generally good cards that can give you more solid win-conditions, or otherwise provide great synergy.

If you end up going with Aurelia as the focus, Felhide Spiritbinder gives you as many combat phases as you have mana to feed into it.

Manabarbs puts extra pressure on your opponents, while if you get Gisela, Blade of Goldnight out, you don't take anything.

Assemble the Legion is one of the most Boros cards out there, and even with your strong Angel focus, a slow and steady wall of attackers and get out of hand for your opponents. Martial Coup also gives you a bunch of soldiers, while also serving as a Board Wipe if necessary!

I know I gave a lot of suggestions, but I do hope this helped a bit. I'd love to hear your thoughts on Iroas vs. Aurelia for the commander of your deck!

236ben95 on What happens to phyrexian metamorph ...

1 week ago

This came up in a cube match between my friends. Friend 1 had Phyrexian Metamorph in play, and Friend 2 enchanted it with Song of the Dryads, then friend 1 casts Disenchant on the song of the dryads. does the metamorph come back as a 0/0 creature, or does it return as the creature it initially copied?

KGW on Esper Death's Shadow

1 week ago

Great to see another Esper DS player! I like the build and have tried many of your cards in various flex spots. My only really suggestion/issue with your build is Fragmentize mainly due to Chalice of the Void. When your OP plays a Chalice on one, having Disenchant gives you an out. Otherwise you just lose. Other than that all of your choices seem viable. Good luck and happy brewing.

zephyr_chang on Barbie Doll

2 weeks ago

Yes, I get that it is a budget deck - I'm not sure why you say that playing Manabarbs and Stuffy Doll means you can't have a good curve. It doesn't. If you understand the concept of mana curve but still ignored it, then that says a lot, I guess.

Ok, as for specific suggestions, here they are:Moving 2 Pay No Heed to sideboard. It can come in against combo decks like Scapeshift.Moving 2 Phyrexian Unlife to sideboard. Should play it with Solemnity or not at all.Cut 1 Curse of Exhaustion and frankly, might move the other 1 to sideboard, because I'm not sure who you are trying to get with this. It's too slow for Storm, maybe it stops Snapcaster Mage tricks, but it's only an annoyance more than anything.Moved 1 Oblivion Ring to the sideboard.Cut 1 Pariah. This card doesn't really do anything without a Stuffy Doll out, plus more reasons later.Cut 4 Mesa Enchantress. You already play very few creatures. I suspect most opponents will have multiple removals in hand to deal with this before you can extract any card advantage from it. Now, the replacements.Adding 4 Heliod's Pilgrim. Guaranteed at least 1 card when you cast this creature. Is a legitimate tutor but restricted to Auras. Still, it makes your 1-ofs better and it enables us to go down 1 Curse and 1 Pariah too, since they are now searchable.Adding 1 Pentarch Ward. To support your Faith's Shields. But really, this is really for exile effects like Path to Exile on your Stuffy Doll.Added 2 Journey to Nowhere. RemovalAdded 4 Angelsong. Stalls the game, or if not, cycles.Added 1 Scrabbling Claws. Budget graveyard hate, also cycles.

Lands:Added 4 Battlefield Forge. Removed 1 Bojuka Bog - if you are playing this just for graveyard hate, I've replaced it with Claws, if you have Relic of Progenitus that's fine too.Removed 1 Reliquary Tower - I doubt that you will need its ability often.Kept the rest, but cut 1 Plains and 1 Mountain to make space.

Sideboard:Cut Boros Charm. I suspect you need this card mainly for the indestructible mode, and this saves only your enchantment pieces, since Doll is already indestructible. If that is the case, I suggest more Faith's Shield, or something not so mana intensive.Cut Karma - much too narrow. I have literally not seen this being played before. If you are afraid of black, play some Celestial Purge instead. Liliana of the Veil is one of the worst cards you can face.I would cut 2 Revoke Existence, if you want you can play more Disenchants. I'm not sure what indestructible artifact/enchantment (or anything that comes back from the graveyard?) you are worried about.

That brings your deck to 60 cards (did you realise you were originally playing with only 59 cards?) and a nicer curve and a lower budget.

KingMathoro on White Soldier Deck

3 weeks ago

Hey if you don't mind I have some questions and suggestions for you. I love soldiers and have a deck of them as well! So I think this deck would see a lot of help from both Gideon, Ally of Zendikar and Elspeth, Sun's Champion. Gideon can ult immediately and Elspeth makes a bunch of tokens. Other cards that would work here are spot removal cards like Journey to Nowhere and Disenchant, Path to Exile,Oblivion Ring, Unified Strike I think they do more than Argentum Armor because it takes so long to get use out of it. And maybe a Wrath of God or the like as well. Some other creatures that would work well if interested are Elite Vanguard, Preeminent Captain, Precinct Captain, Mentor of the Meek, Veteran Swordsmith, and Veteran Armorsmith I do think that since you only have five equipments as well that Auriok Steelshaper seems underwhelming here. Anointed Procession and Mobilization are also great here as well. The main questions I have are, is budget an issue at all and what is your meta like and also how is the deck performing? Because knowing that could change the above quite drastically. What do you think?

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