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Cathars' Crusade Discussion
7 hours ago
Frozen AEther help slow your opponents down.
Boseiju, Who Shelters All potentially worth having biased on how consistently you play against blue control.
Cavern of Souls must have in my opinion. Name dragon and just go to town.
Lim-Dul's Vault is a great form of tutor card. can be extremely helpful.
Quicksilver Amulet a must have for cheating in the big creatures of cheep.
1 day ago
With the amount of basics you have I would say to either take out Farhaven Elf or Solemn Simulacrum (I say either because of the differing mana costs) I like the pick with the Ulvenwald Hydra with all the non basics. I like the doomsday thing you're trying to pull off with Laboratory Maniac, I would chuck it in my deck as well, but getting the combo reliably isn't consistent and if you draw a lab maniac during a regular game I guarantee you that he will sit in your hand forever and its the first thing you discard since it doesn't actively do something, I get that every piece serves a purpose but lab maniac doesn't serve much of a purpose except take up a valuable card slot to get to a game plan that won't happen often (good try though). My recommendation to you is that you get a Minion Reflector instead since it doubles ETB triggers with a hasty body for mana and it combos just as well as the infinite draw combo you wanted to fire off.
Add Jace's Mindseeker it synergizes well with your diluvian primordial. Instead of Goldnight Redeemer use Cloudblazer, its the card draw that sells this one and at that rate add Mulldrifter over blue sun's.
By themselves Myr Battlesphere, Avenger of Zendikar, can sure make tokens and operate as efficient threats by themselves but they need a bit more to be more relevant, Hornet Queen is in a worse position but in the same boat.Cathars' Crusade, Call for Unity and Meadowboon can shore up the fact that your value creatures and tokens are typically small while staying with your main game plan (while staying cheaper than Craterhoof Behemoth), even if that's fetching for a basic. Swap the angel of invention for the crusade. Instead of icefall reagent use Frost Titan if you want more value locking things down. You have in your deck, you want Leyline of Anticipation since if its in your opening hand its free over the orrery if you didn't have then run the orrery.
I'm under the assumption that you want to be a control variant, which is fine but you need to have more control aspects like counterspells, add Counterspell Disallow, Voidslime and Glen Elendra Archmage she also combos well the cathar's crusade. I want you to look at Ghostly Flicker and tell me how good it is after a board wipe, cards like that are not good cards, you have the right idea with adding other blinkers like restoration angel, and Eldrazi displacer, they are so much better in comparison since they are creatures and can do something versus sitting in your hand and doing nothing after a wipe. Vorinclex seems cool, but I find that stalling out my opponents does better when its my main game plan (he also doesn't have an ETB effect either), I don't see much use out of him otherwise.
A bunch of your cards are good cards but the deck needs more focus. Edric rewards aggressive decks, this deck has aspects but can't always cash in on that. This deck wants to control the board but has a big volume of unnecessary blink (cough* ghostly flicker cards exclusively) and creatures that don't control the board, unlike stonehorn dignitary and mystic snake. You can get a lot more reliable and repeatable card draw out of creatures versus instants and sorceries because you run a blink deck, so abuse that. I don't understand what you seek to copy with cards like progenitor mimic, if you want cool creatures go with a control classic like Gilded Drake.
Choose a style and go with it, if you take a look at my Roon deck you will see a lot of cards that don't seem to synergize, but they have a common and fun theme that's extremely powerful and oppressive since they have an underlying theme. I control the board then I go aggro for the win. Treat your Roon deck like an exclusively ETB/LTB midrange deck at first. There are a lot of cuts I would make if I were in your shoes, but i'm not so its really in your ball court to start capitalizing on Roon's potential. There are also a lot more things to say, but I'll let this comment sink in for now. Just ask if you need more help/suggestions, or check out my list for reference.
1 day ago
would still suggest some good white token makers like Luminarch Ascension Monastery Mentor Hero of Bladehold pump things like Cathars' Crusade Akroma's Memorial and just good cards like Sword of the Animist Elesh Norn, Grand CenobiteSword of Feast and Famine Sun Titan Ashnod's Altar Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
2 days ago
Very cool commander idea.
It might also be fun to test with Cathars' Crusade.
If you swap in some more lifelink creatures and develop a lifr-gain sub-theme, Archangel of Thune would be bonkers with all your tokens.
Have fun brewing!
4 days ago
Cathars' Crusade would make a great addition to your deck--on your first token generating turn, assuming you have seven lands in play, your 7 creatures will enter the battlefield as 8/8s. If you have doubling season in play at the same time, you will generate 14 29/29s. And, just for fun, if you had every single token doubling effect in your deck in play simultaneously... 126 253/253 would be under your control.
Without more playtesting, I am not sure exactly what I would cut. My gut tells me one of your other mass pump spells, but I am not sure which one is the least efficient.
4 days ago
4 days ago
Didn't even think about summoning sickness, and the interaction with Food Chain is also nice. I also never even heard of Nature's Revolt so tyvm for the alternative. It's definitely better than Kamahl for me. Can't wait to try it out. If I end up liking Revolt, then I would have more cause to work in some of the Marath combo pieces, although I'm not entirely sure how Revolt would work with Mana Echoes if it even would. Going further, would it work with Cathars' Crusade?
5 days ago
Regarding my design choices, it's mostly revolved around 2 reasons. First, I would rather work towards tuning this as a 75% deck mostly because I used to play Modern with Kiki-Pod until Pod was banned. Since then, Marath will always fulfill that hole in my heart. Secondly, my community (and especially my immediate friends-meta) adopt a less competitive EDH philosophy mostly because my LGS offers prizes randomly as opposed to a league or elim format. At that point, everything is left up for style and personal preference.
So with that in mind, I am working on getting more tax cards and trying to slowly remove the higher cmc cards as I go. When the Planeswalkers and +1/+1 package cards get removed, the high cmc cards left will be my 2 board wipes, Avacyn, and Kiki combos. I plan on removing a couple overly redundant combo cards like Restoration Angel at some point. I'll also be converting my ramp cards like Cultivate to the Talismans and trading for fast mana rocks when possible. This will eventually lower my average cmc.
I may end up adding Marath combos in but I'm a bit unsure atm. Currently with Hardened Scales and Cathars' Crusade, Marath will be such a big threat on her own even without an infinite enabler. If I decide to go deep into the Marath plan, the remaining pieces will be a bit costly for me so I'll wing it.
After looking at your deck, I see a very fun route you are going there with your deck. I'd definitely love to get my hands on Living Plane, and I'm really happy your deck introduced me to Harsh Mentor. Never saw it on EDHRec or etc. and would be fun with my meta. After giving it some thought, I will probably try out Silence soon. I've been hesitant on it in the past since the majority of my meta utilizes activated creature abilities and I still don't have Linvala, Keeper of Silence yet but Silence can help bait out a response.
If you happen to know of any other more tax cards, optimal substitutions, side combo-routes, or other fun Loyal Retainers targets I'd be happy to hear it. I mainly just want to keep the Kiki combos and Avacyn/Norn reanimator plays but everything else is fine to change for me. Either way, thanks for the look and advice.