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Creature — Human Soldier
Tap five untapped Soldiers you control: Remove target creature from the game.
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Catapult Master Discussion
1 week ago
Can't wait to see his return.
Stu's suggestion of Catapult Master is something to look into too, as are his suggestions of Land Tax + Scroll Rack when the budget allows for it. Card draw is hard in mono-white, which is why you NEED those artifact ways of gaining card advantage.
3 months ago
This looks like a pretty solid Soldier tribal deck. But I see some room for improvement:
- There are a couple of lands I would suggest running that will be a little better than Plains in your deck. Firstly, Daru Encampment is a staple soldier land. I would also look at Nomad Stadium as a means to deal yourself damage and increase your legion. There are also some generally good white mana-makers which can be of use in any monowhite deck. But they tend to be pricey, so I'll leave them off my list.
- You're making a ton of tokens with this deck, and to that end Anointed Procession can be of assistance.
- Catapult Master and Catapult Squad are two all-stars in Soldier tribal that sometimes get missed.
- Finally, there seem to be some cards in here that aren't pulling their weight as Soldiers. I would remove Perimeter Captain and Valiant Guard, along with Timely Reinforcements. There are just better options in Commander than those cards.
I hope this helps. This looks like a super-fun EDH deck, and +1 for using my favorite tribal card: Cryptic Gateway.
5 months ago
I like the general beat down premise of the deck although I feel some of the soldier choices are sub optimal such as Abzan Skycaptain. I am guessing by the number of more recently released soldiers that your collection is fairly new and that you are working with what you have. With that in mind I have compiled some categories for soldiers you may wish to consider in the future for roles in the deck.
General Combat value soldiers: Aerial Responder, Bastion Protector, Fabled Hero, Fencing Ace, Gustcloak Savior, Kazandu Blademaster, Odric, Master Tactician. Bastion Protector is HIGHLY advised if you can as it makes your creature board indestructible with your commander out in combat. I would also recommend in general using creatures that are inexpensive and provide two or more useful keywords, although double strike is powerful enough to warrant use by itself I feel.
Token generators: Darien, King of Kjeldor, Brimaz, King of Oreskos, Lieutenants of the Guard, Patrol Signaler, Precinct Captain. Soldiers tend to die pretty quickly with the eldritch abominations that frequent commander and especially when board wipes abound so I would recommend increasing the solider token generation of the deck to ensure a capable offense. Darien has recently been changed to a solider and so could fit the deck pretty well.
Utility: Catapult Master, Catapult Squad, Aegis of the Gods, Intrepid Hero, Kalemne's Captain. Flexibility can be pretty useful for survival in commander and I feel these offer some flexibility without impacting the raw offensive capabilities of the deck much.
Hate Effects: Loxodon Gatekeeper, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Thalia, Heretic Cathar. Although not necessary there are a few tax and hate effects in solider tribal if you ever wanted to branch out in that direction but I feel its better to go all in or not at all with hate effects, however these are some of those options.
Card advantage: Enlistment Officer, Mentor of the Meek, Palace Sentinels, Preeminent Captain, Ranger of Eos, Recruiter of the Guard, Relic Seeker. Card advantage will make or break you in commander while I think all these are worthy inclusions I can not state strongly enough how much you need Mentor of the Meek, with Elspeth he is pay three mana draw three cards and most solider cards will trigger his ability. Monarch will also net you a card at the end of your turn and with your solider army the odds of you getting hit for combat damage and losing monarch are fairly slim and easy to get back if you do.
Life Gain: Soldier of the Pantheon. I personally think your life gain should be left to equipment with life link since if your deck is doing its job its going to be most people hiding behind creatures from you, but here is a tribal life gain creature.
Equipment Choices: Basilisk Collar, Chariot of Victory, Batterskull, Lightning GreavesThese were some equipment I thought might fit the deck well and tried to aim for equipment that would add two or more keywords, Lightning Greaves are worth adding for the haste and free equip cost in my opinion.
Enchantments: Dictate of Heliod, Cathars' Crusade. I would not advise going for the heroic mechanic with auras as the deck seems to have difficulty with card advantage currently and you are setting your self up for two for one losses to removal, with that in mind I recommend these solid anthem effects.
Card draw: Mind's Eye, Staff of Nin, Skullclamp. You will find card draw to be quite tricky in white so I have compiled a few non creature draw engines for you to consider, I recommend adding all of them as you can never really have enough card draw, just ask a blue player.
In the future I would recommend adding 5-8 enchant/artifact destruction spells, especially artifacts, as creature strategies can be easily disrupted or fall victim to combos and your deck has almost no ways to stop such things currently. Look forward to seeing how this evolves in the future.
5 months ago
Making sure you always have 3 creatures too attack with with Odric seems really important. Timely Reinforcements is perfect since you can go from no board to Odric attacks in one thing. Geist-Honored Monk Precinct Captain even cards like Sound The Alarm! and Servo Exhibition seem good enough although some are a bit slow. Also like Heliod, God of the Sun
Since Odric encourages go wide anthems seem great. Honor of the Pure Marshal's Anthem Glorious Anthem Spear of Heliod Dictate of Heliod and Archangel of Strife are classics. And if you want sneaky tech Light from Within works too.
Also if you're doing soldier tribal Deploy to the Front Catapult Master Daru WarchiefMartial Coup and Conqueror's Pledge are great. Bastion Protector Archetype of Courage and Intrepid Hero all happen to be soldiers. Don't forget those anything lords Metallic Mimic Adaptive Automaton Brass Herald and Coat of Arms are all nuts in tribal.
If you end up having enough tokens don't forget Anointed Procession
6 months ago
6 months ago
Great soldier themed deck. I see what you are going for and I think you've got a good idea. However there are some cards in this list that aren't that efficient.
Creatures that tap for a temporary +1 bonus for a single target are nice in a draft or limited format, not so much in commander.
-1 Anointer of Champions
-1 Infantry Veteran
The following creatures aren't that great either, but for different reasons.
-1 Benalish Veteran, 3 mana for a 2/2 that only gets a bonus when attacking. Nice but there are better options.
-1 Guardians of Akrasa, the exalted ability works against your battalion ability. Also, can't attack due to defender.
-1 Serene Master, not a soldier, has a kind of cute combat ability, but there are better creatures.
-1 Truefire Paladin, not a soldier, only pumps itself.
I'll start with your maybe board and then some cards you may have over looked.
+1 Catapult Master, really good removal.+1 Daru Warchief, makes most of your other creaturs cheaper.
+1 Field Marshal, like Kongming, "Sleeping Dragon" pumps most of your creatures.
Other creatures to consider:
Doomed Traveler, Loyal Cathar Flip replaces itself when it dies.
Elite Vanguard, a solid 2/1 for 1 mana.
Fencing Ace, Iroas's Champion, Boros Swiftblade are cheap creatures with double strike.
Gideon's Avenger, just keeps getting bigger.
Knight-Captain of Eos, not a soldier, but turns each of those soldier tokens a Holy Day.
Mentor of the Meek, for the card draw ability. Works well with the Daru Warchief and other cheap creatures in your deck.
Precinct Captain, cheap creature with first strike and keeps making more soldier tokens.
Soldier of the Pantheon can be really good in commander games, lots of multi-colored creatures, including commnders.
Thalia's Lieutenant, has a lot of synergy with everything else.
Enough about the creatures. Lets take a look at the support spells. Consider taking out the following:
Curse of Bloodletting, only affects a single opponent. Weak in multi-player games.
Pacifism, only temporarily removes a single threat
Fortify, Martial Glory, Show of Valor, War Flare, Desperate Stand are all weak temporary bonus cards. Not something you want to draw after a Wrath of God resolves.
Accorder's Shield, there are so many better equipments. Trusty Machete, Silver-Inlaid Dagger, Basilisk Collar, and Loxodon Warhammer immediately come to mind, especially for the aggressive nature of this deck.
Have you looked into any ot these:Blaze Commando, not a human, but, makes instants like Lightning Bolt, Lightning Helix and Warleader's Helix more effective.
Door of Destinies, since most of your creatures are soldiers.
Martial Coup, is a great board wipe that can also let you play 'catch up'.
Mobilization, to make an army after a board wipe.
There are some cards in your maybe board that i don't think would be that good for your deck.
Ancient Tomb, really good for fast mana in competitive formats, expensive card to buy if you don't have one.
Ancient Ziggurat, nice in a five color creature deck, not really good in this one.
Mystifying Maze is kinda tricky, you could end up helping your opponent when you don't want to.
Gemstone Caverns has the same problem as Ancient Ziggurat and is less consistent.
Aftr taking those land cards out, every other land card in your maybe board should be in the deck if you have them or are planning on getting them.
Please keep in mind that, most of the time, Commander/EDH is a format about endurance not speed. Don't be afraid to drop big threats.
As always, temper these suggestions with your collection and your budget. Feel free to take a look at my decks and let me know what you think.
6 months ago
Friendly reminder that you don't need to pick one over the other.
The best anthems in the format either aren't creature specific: Crescendo of War, Cathars' Crusade, Archangel of Strife, Archangel of Thune, Eldrazi Monument, Jazal Goldmane, and Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, or don't mention one type over another: Coat of Arms, so there's no reason all your tokens need to be of the same type. (Before anyone says it, it does not matter that some of those buff your opponents' creatures. The fact that you are going to have so many more creatures than them will negate any advantage they might stand to receive.)
If you're planning on going wide, Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer is without a doubt the best choice as commander, although Adriana, Captain of the Guard can be solid if you don't want to build into artfacts and usually play with 4 or more people.
As far as Soldiers or Warriors as a tribe, building tribal decks is much less an issue of how many good creatures there are of that tribe, and more about how many cards give you bonuses for sticking to that tribe and including a lot of creatures of that type. In this respect it's much more useful to search though all the cards that mention that type in their text box, rather than looking though all the creatures that are that type.
Soldiers: Gather Search (106 cards, 96 in Boros colors)
Warriors: Gather Search (90 cards, 39 in Boros colors)
Just looking at those numbers, it's easy to see that Soldiers are more supported than Warriors, and especially so in red and white. To break it down further, lets check how many of those cards have effects that are relevant is commander (i.e. generate card advantage, scale well in multiplayer, are cost efficient, and/or allow you to cast spells more efficiently.) Specifically, I'm looking for effects that reward you for playing Soldiers or Warriors, rather than cards that just make them like Assemble the Legion, which can go in any deck.
- Ballyrush Banneret
- Captain of the Watch
- Catapult Master
- Daru Warchief
- Field Marshal
- Knight-Captain of Eos
- Preeminent Captain
- Rhox Pikemaster
- Unified Strike
- Veteran's Armaments
Here we have, 2 cost reducers, 4 anthem effects, 1 cheater, 2 removal spells, and a sword. Kind of mediocre actually, the anthem effects are outclassed by what I listed above, and only Catapult Master, Preeminent Captain, and Unified Strike really require you to build heavily into their tribe.
Here we have, 1 sac outlet / life drainer, 2 evasion effects (probably better options for this, Cover of Darkness for example), 1 cost reducer, 1 (meh) haste granter, and 3 anthem effects. Clearly, Warriors are the less supported tribe here.
To sum up: Soldiers have more support than Warriors, especially in Boros; there's no reason to stick to one over the other; don't go nuts trying to force a theme if there's no reward for it.
8 months ago
Hmm...good list. I like the white good stuff you stuck in here. A card I desperately need is Weathered Wayfarer. I would highly suggest putting in about 35 or 36 land. Maybe include Ancient Tomb in the mix to get the ramp and the 2 damage. I know you aren't all in on Darien but some would be good. Also Ankh of Mishra is hilarious.
As far as utility goes I would include a bit more ramp and card draw, with your low mana curve I would think it would be likely that you would run out of cards pretty quickly especially if your opening hand curves out decent. But you did say you were gonna build it differently, just some suggestions.
Overall, have fun with it.