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Thalia, Heretic Cathar
Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
Creatures and nonbasic lands your opponents control enter the battlefield tapped.
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Thalia, Heretic Cathar Discussion
2 days ago
In a deck like this, one of the first things that comes to mind is Lim-Dul's Vault . It's an instant-speed tutor that helps smooth things out. You can also throw in a few targeted kill spells, since that seems like it could be good (depending on playgroup): I would recommend Vindicate , Anguished Unmaking , and Capsize .
I would avoid City of Brass , since having Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth doesn't stop you from damage. Mana Confluence is perhaps less dangerous. If you want more duals, you also can use Sea of Clouds and Morphic Pool .
If you want to annoy people, maybe Mistbind Clique could be fun. Hushbringer means that you would just have instead a big 4/4 with no drawback for 4, but no Hushbringer can really screw with your opponent. (Which is always fun.) And speaking of annoyances, I find Thalia, Heretic Cathar to be much more irritating to opponents than Blind Obedience .
If you're fine with Planeswalkers, there are a few I would recommend! Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver , Teferi, Time Raveler , Elspeth, Sun's Champion , and maybe Kaya, Ghost Assassin all come to mind as potentially useful.
In any event, faeries are lots of fun! Hopefully you make your opponents go "WTF" a lot...
2 weeks ago
I have 25 creatures, and 2x Gideon Blackblade who is a creature on my turn. That has been plenty so far. Your point is taken about Thoughtseize , but it's a non-unique argument because that's true of pretty much every deck when an opponent uses Thoughtseize . The card is just powerful and can hurt an opponent's hand. That's true even against a control deck if Thoughtseize is played turn 1 (as it often is) before I play a land.
Thalia, Heretic Cathar does okay in the deck. It has its uses, like causing lands and creatures to come in tapped. That has been pretty good, actually. I'm not married to the card, though, and it may be replaced (likely by Deputy of Detention ).
Elite Guardmage does look odd, but it flies, gains me life, and draw me a card. It's better than I had anticipated. For now, I'm keeping it.
Dovin's Veto is worthless with only three counter spells? Then why did U/W aggro run three Negate s in the side just before the last Standard rotation? This is not meant to be a control deck. Rather, those are very useful as an occasional way to stop a combat trick, counter a planeswalker, etc... As it turns out, only three copies is pretty good against burn and midrange as I have had nice success in my (admittedly limited) play testing. It's a solid card that has utility.
At the end of the day, you have essentially identified what I have thought of the deck-- it either needs to go 100% aggro or 100% U/W control. If I want to go aggro, though, then I'm wasting my time on both U/W and humans and I should just run G/W aggro CoCo, and if I want to run 100% control then I need to dump the humans and just commit to doing the control route. I just really like humans as a tribe and I get to play a bunch of cards that I really enjoy.
Am I going to win FNM with this deck? Probably not, but I have ZERO interest in trying to qualify for the pro tour, I don't really care if I am competitive to win FNM every week. Rather, I like to just play the game and have fun. Do I like to win at least some matches? Sure, and this list should be able to get me to about a 50% win rate, and I'm okay with that! :-)
2 weeks ago
Icon of Ancestry is just better than Angel of Invention but what worries me is that you aren't running enough creatures. In the meta you kind have to have lots of threats to get through removal and hand disruption. Keeping a decent hand with a creature, a planeswalker and a couple of spells will lose 100% of the time against Thoughtseize . Also the creature base feels very...off. Thalia, Heretic Cathar , Law-Rune Enforcer and Elite Guardmage feel kinda out of it. Honestly Gadwick, the Wizened seems like a great pick if you were more blue orientated. In the sideboard, Rest in Peace over Tormod's Crypt and 3 Dovin's Veto is next to useless. Counterspell work best in Pioneer when you have many to make your opponent play around them, 3 counterspells in the board won't really do that.
3 weeks ago
Geo67 Sorry for the late response. Depending on how many Gideon's you are lacking, I would recommend maxing on Avacyn or adding Gideon Blackblade , Thalia, Heretic Cathar , Supreme Will , Dovin, Grand Arbiter .
Grumplstiltskin Thanks for the question! There are a couple of cards that are good against this deck. One card would be Teferi, Time Raveler since it forces the deck to play sorcery speed. Thoughtseize and Fatal Push is pretty good as well. The deck has a really bad matchup with Izzet Phoenix. A deck that cast a lot of 1-2 cmc spells is gonna out tempo the deck since it plays so many low cmc cards and has evasive threats.
1 month ago
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1 month ago
Update: I have never gotten to cast an Obzedat due to either not drawing one, or being stuck at four lands. Cutting a couple to make room for Thalia, Heretic Cathar in the main. Also currently getting slaughtered by creature decks, so added Fatal Push in place of the Dryad Militant s.
1 month ago
Sure, I'm at 100 cards. But we've a huge situation after all those cuts that should've changed the meter. Is it not meant to be fixed?
Whatever, this is Deck 1 that although at 100 Cards, I just don't see enough consistency for this to work properly. Here is what I believe to be the best of each:
Cloudblazer (Card Advantage & Life Gain? OH YEAH!) Daxos of Meletis (Just buff him once, & only spot removal & wraths can end him.) Deputy of Acquittals (Another Venser when we need it.) Fiend Hunter (How did this make it in?) Grand Abolisher (This is the best we got for Lockdown.) Kambal, Consul of Allocation (Taxes for casting nothing but anything not a Creature.) Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis (Group Hug? Not here. Two Benevolent Kings will destroy you.) Lavinia, Azorius Renegade (I wonder if she can do well w/ Kynalos and Tino... Oh, & STACKS.) Marchesa, the Black Rose (It's either you have low life or this stays cut.) Why didn't you decrease for me cuttung a staple like Meren?! (Uh, Recursion?) Mother of Runes (Ditched Cartel Aristocrat as at least she can be used on any of my Humans.) Reflector Mage (Still on the bend on this one.) Thalia, Heretic Cathar (Uh, Stax?) Thalia's Lieutenant (HUGE Boost throughout my humans.) Trophy Mage (At least most of my "Trophies" are Cast.)
Kenrith, the Returned King : (Recursion, Life gain, +1/+1 Buffs, Card Advantage, even giving everyone Haste & Trample is awesome. DO NOT CUT IT.)
I hope this helps in case you want to improve on this also. Signing out.
1 month ago
Thalia, Heretic Cathar occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.08%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.04%