Thalia, Heretic Cathar
Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
Creatures and nonbasic lands your opponents control enter the battlefield tapped.
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Thalia, Heretic Cathar Discussion
4 hours ago
After some thought reflection on the idea of +1/+1 counters in standard, I think the best option would to go G/W as cards like Oath of Ajani and Collective Effort are way stronger than Winding Constrictor and Weaponcraft Enthusiast. I don't even think the argument of better removal is even a factor here as you still have Declaration in Stone and Stasis Snare. The best card black has to offer is Yahenni, Undying Partisan, but it's not the most reliable triggered ability unless you want to cram 10 extra kill spells into your deck for no reason..Below is a list I've been brewing, and I think you could get some ideas for your deck based on what I found!
4 Canopy Vista
4 Fortified Village
1 Westvale Abbey Flip
1 Ajani Unyielding
4 Collective Effort
2 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
4 Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
4 Oath of Ajani
3 Stasis Snare
3 Armorcraft Judge
2 Maulfist Revolutionary
4 Selfless Spirit
4 Thraben Inspector
3 Verdurous Gearhulk
2 Walking Ballista
3 Blessed Alliance
2 Declaration in Stone
2 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
4 Tireless Tracker
1 day ago
Delta-117, Your question about Noxious Gearhulk got me thinking... Verdurous Gearhulk is a great card, but you're not really blowing out of the gate with tons of low-cost creatures, which is the best use for his counters.
That said, Verdurous Gearhulk does make the Ishkanah, Grafwidow spider tokens absolutely bonkers. It's a little slow, but an Ishkanah, Grafwidow followed by a Verdurous Gearhulk will be very hard to deal with. If you do decide to play 2x Verdurous Gearhulk, I'd go for 3x Ishkanah, Grafwidow as well.
What you said about Evolving Wilds to help trigger Revolt is not a bad idea, but Aether Revolt gave the Delirium decks an even better option: Renegade Map. Turn 1 was usually always Vessel of Nascency or Traverse the Ulvenwald with the goal of fixing your mana. However, artifact is usually the hardest type to hit in the GB Delirium Decks. T1 you play Renegade Map, T2 you crack the map, putting an artifact into the GY, tutor the land and play it untapped the same turn. No tempo loss like you can get with Evolving Wilds.
While Brisela, Voice of Nightmares is very powerful, it's usually very easy to kill Gisela, the Broken Blade before the meld. The decks that are good with Bruna, the Fading Light give her more targets than just Gisela, the Broken Blade. I actually lost a match once because I cast Bruna, the Fading Light and went for the meld rather than choosing Thalia, Heretic Cathar. My opponent was able to cast To the Slaughter and Gisela, the Broken Blade was the only target I could sacrifice. I still had the Bruna, the Fading Light, but on his turn he cast Ishkanah, Grafwidow which bought him enough time to find the answer for Bruna, the Fading Light and win.
Long story short: Gisela, the Broken Blade is too easily handled before the meld. But there is another 2WW spell that is even better for your 4-drop slot: Gideon, Ally of Zendikar. He's actually even better after the bannings. A T4 Emrakul, the Promised End is a stronger play than a T4 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar no matter how you look at it. And Smuggler's Copter put him under a lot of early game pressure that all the Soldier Tokens in the world couldn't defend against.
What's even better is that Gideon, Ally of Zendikar doesn't die to Fatal Push. People are so in love with Fatal Push right now that they are changing a lot of their lists just to be able to use that very efficient removal spell with Revolt. As much as I love Gisela, the Broken Blade, Aether Revolt just made her that much easier to kill.
I don't mean to drone on too much. I made a copy of your list and made the changes I'm describing here so it's easier to see. Here's the link if you're interested: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/abzan-delirium-aer-copy-1/
2 days ago
Neglected Heirloom Flip is actually a solid card in the deck even when it's not flipped, so I don't think i'm removing it. I also wouldn't want to remove an equipment for a card that's only good when you've got equipments. I even like it more than Bone Saw because it helps protect my creatures from burn and helps them survive combat. However Thalia, Heretic Cathar would be an awesome addition! I've noticed her impact on the field first hand when playing R/W vehicles and she definitely would find a home here. Her first strike will also be great when combined with the equipment buffs.
about Cathar's Shield, I don't like playing that card in an aggro shell, it's too expensive to equip and wouldn't have much impact when you did. so it would only function as a way to trigger the "when you have an artifact/equipment" clauses. all the other equipments function in other ways as well so i prefer them by far. and well I've already elaborated why i prefer heirloom over bone saw. now, Captain's Claws is a great card, but for this deck it's also quite expensive, drawing two of them is already hard to curve out, drawing three of them would be disastrous for your speed. that's why intend to keep it to 3 copies so that the probability of such a thing happening is significantly lower.
Reckless Bushwhacker however is another card i like. The deck is already quite aggressive (I finish games T4 quite often) but he would fit right in finding lots of spells that would allow him to surge in. i'm not sure which place he'd take but i think i'll try him out. Since Town Gossipmonger Flip was indeed the slowest one-shot i had, i probably will replace him with 2 Thalia, Heretic Cathars and a Reckless Bushwhacker for starters :p
thank you for the suggestions :D
2 days ago
I love people brewing Boros Equipment decks. Here's my 2 cents for thought.
Rip out Town Gossipmonger Flip and get some Thalia, Heretic Cathar to replace it as a 2-3 of, or even Authority of the Consuls. These 2 cards serve a real point in this deck - To prevent potential blockers being able to block.
Rip out Neglected Heirloom Flip. It's a solid artifact sure if you're running enough flip creatures to reliably get it flipped in 1-2 turns, but since I've already suggested removing Town Gossipmonger, then the sword has no way to flip and becomes wasted slots. This frees up room for that Sigarda's Aid that has been mentioned several times.
With both Town Gossipmonger and Neglected Heirloom gone, and the other cards added in, there still should be a couple of slots left open. This was done deliberately to leave room for more equipment. Another Captain's Claws, some Cathar's Shield, maybe even more Bone Saw. If these don't interest you then why not consider Reckless Bushwhacker? It can create a surprise win very early.
3 days ago
hmmmm, yes she is..... but we all know Thalia, Heretic Cathar is...the...hottest
3 days ago
Thank you all for the feedback and apoligies for the late response. Lately I've been taking a break from brewing EDH decks, so I'm not visiting TO very frequently.
All good suggestions, But I don't really see what I should take out. In general I'm not running very high on life, so I don't think I can make use of the abilities, and most of the time I would not have mana for Well of Lost Dreams.
My meta has all kinds of decks. Some people got T1 and others (few) play OTC commander decks. Most decks are T2 or T3 trying not to combo out in turn 4 or 5. I build this deck because I like extort and drain, but it has been far more powerfull and fun than I anticipated, at least in my meta.
- Aven Mindcensor and Thalia (both of them, but I assume you meant Thalia, Heretic Cathar are awesome, but there is so much I want in the deck, and drain and enchantments are higher on my list.
- Authority of the Consuls looks just right for the deck (enchantment, cheap, and good for Karlov).
- Kambal, Consul of Allocation is pretty nice. I'm not sure what to take out, but I will consider him for a slot when I do.
- Flickering Ward is a great suggestion. I'll see what I can doo to find it a slot.
- I did not consider Gray Merchant of Asphodel for this deck, but I think I should! Thank you.
I'm not updating the deck right now (as I like to keep it in sync with the paper version), but I want to make room for these cards (all very low casting cost except for Merchant):
- Soul Warden - more triggers for Karlov and Recurable
- Soul's Attendant - for more Karlov Triggers and Recurable
- Authority of the Consuls - OK, On theme, and recurable
- Kambal, Consul of Allocation - Tax and triggers for Karlov
- Flickering Ward - more triggers for Karlov, cheap (good for extort) and helps Karlov survive.
- Gray Merchant of Asphodel - Recurable Exsanguinate. Could work with my devotion.
- Darksteel Plate - Karlov deserves the best
- Swiftfoot Boots - Would look good on Karlov. (If no Flickering Ward I'd rather use Lightning Greaves)
I'll update the maybeboard accordingly.
4 days ago
- all Skysovereign, Consul Flagship - expensive
- all Start Your Engines
- all Aethersphere Harvester
- all Authority of the Consuls this card only waste space in aggresive deck like this. Put to side, and no more than 2 against mirror.
- all Immolating Glare useless card. NEVER play it in aggro decks.
- all Gearshift Ace
In (for sure):
5 days ago
I like it, but I hate it at the same time. Now hear me out, here's why. ALL THE 3 OF's! I find having 3 of's very inconsistent in the deck building process. And if you really wanted to, Tireless Tracker can be pushed down to either a 1 of or 2 of. It has found solace and more usefulness in sideboards because it helps with the long, grindy games post board. I also don't think Ajani is very good in this particular deck mainly because you are going big with value creatures with the potential to go wide, and a 6 cmc Ajani just seems...meh. If you are using him for his -2, just use a spell for that spot. Basically this deck will work wonders once you can get into 2 spells a turn territory because everything is just value. And I highly dislike Collective Effort. Just use a different pump for your team such as another Oath of Ajani. I find that this Oath should be a 4 of, if not, at least a 3 of. This card will put your creatures over the top. Also, I would like to see Thalia, Heretic Cathar in this deck as potentially a 2 of main board. Think about it, she stops Turn 4 Saheeli combo. BOOM! Also, I don't think Skysovereign is where this deck wants to be heading. My suggestions in a nutshell by CMC:
2x V Gearhulk
2x Sram's Expertise
4x Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
2x Thalia, Heretic Cathar
2x Stasis Snare
4x Sylvan Advocate
2x Declaration in Stone
3x Oath of Ajani
2x Selfless Spirit
4x Thraben Inspector
3x Oath of Nissa