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Equipped creature has vigilance, trample, and haste.
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Haunted Cloak Discussion
22 hours ago
Haunted Cloak really needs to get subbed in because of the need for trample in this deck.
1 week ago
Vukodlak: I am glad that you enjoyed it.
I ran Memory Jar for quite a while but and it is a decent option but never seemed to line up quite right. Most of the time I cast it, I had to wait a turn to use it or else I would just be ditching cards that I did not want to discard (this deck has a lot of high CMC cards) and if I had to wait the extra turn, people would keep up mana to stop what I was doing when I used it or would just destroy it before I got to do anything with it. It was almost always a better option to just cast more ramp and play Kozilek. Or if Kozilek was already in play, sacrifice and recast him. I may try it again one day, but for now I am not that big of a fan.
Dreamstone Hedron is one of the best mana rock in the deck as it gives a ton of mana on Paradox Engine turns and can be sacrificed for 3 cards if you have mana and nothing to do with it. Getting to 10 mana is very important for the deck and that gap right before you get to 10 is one of the only times that the deck is actually vulnerable so I doubt that I will ever cut this card.
The same issue that originally kept me from using Scroll Rack still persists: I don't have a lot of ways to shuffle my library. If I could ditch 6 cards, crack a fetch land and not have to redraw them, I would absolutely run it but it was not relevant enough often enough for me to want it so I cut it.
I actually just explained a few comments ago why I think that Haunted Cloak still deserves it's inclusion but that can be an easy meta call if you don't end up wanting to run it.
Inspiring Statuary is a card that I would still run even in a meta with no Stony Silence/Null Rod effects. Not only is it the best card in the deck if someone is running the aforementioned cards, but it is very useful to be able to turn a lot of the random artifacts that just sit around into mana rocks. And if the deck plays anything for you like it has for me, you can expect to see a lot more artifact hate in your meta in the near future. Cast an Eldrazi titan on turn 3 a couple of times and people will start to notice and adapt.
As for Junk Diver/Scrap Trawler, it is a bit of a meta call. This list is supposed to be the highest possible power level that the deck can reasonably achieve, hence the ridiculous price tag. The extra recursion is fine but not often relevant in cEDH unless you were planning on using them for combo purposes and this deck runs a lot of graveyard hate so I try to avoid combo pieces that don't do much if you aren't using them to combo as it is fully possible that they will get exiled by Relic of Progenitus or Scavenger Grounds rendering them useless. Kozilek's shuffle effect can make a lot of random cards in the deck into a win condition when looped so it is very rarely necessary for the extra recursion anyway.
I hope this was helpful. Sorry for the late response, I have been busy with finals.
2 weeks ago
I primarily just wanted to say thank you for posting and maintaining this list. I really enjoyed reading it and I am going to go with Kozilek over Karn now for my colorless EDH commander as a result of your primer!
I am curious: what do you think of Memory Jar here? Seems like it could be a great way to pump out additional ramp while disrupting your opponent's in the process, and could potentially do more work than Dreamstone Hedron here.
Also, you mentioned in an old comment that you wanted to test out Scroll Rack but couldn't think of what to cut. Have you revisited this? Seems like it would be better than Haunted Cloak at first glance, or possibly even Inspiring Statuary depending on how often you are seeing cards like Stony Silence/Null Rod (maybe your meta has warped around your Kozilek deck and so these are way more prevalent, but in my playgroup, I seem to be the only person who knows about these cards!). Thoughts?
Final question: I tend to try and build with some recursion as a backup plan, but I see you don't include cards like Junk Diver/Scrap Trawler and their ilk despite the high volume of artifacts. Is this due to Kozilek's reshuffle ability or are your games just too fast to warrant their inclusion?
2 weeks ago
Chariot of Victory, Helm of Kaldra and Haunted Cloak all give your commander haste. also maybe consider running Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth with Cabal Coffers for mana ramp if you have them. Evil Twin seems like it would fit your theme as well.
2 weeks ago
Thank you Nicol_Bolas3 for your comment!
As much as I love the idea of memeing on my opponents by having Dakkon's sword in the 99, but it sadly doesn't do anything like Dakkon Blackblade by himself... Dakkon and the sword do not provide any evasion to actually get to the lethal 21 commander damage. So a small squirrel can get in his way instead of murdering my opponents.
Also the sword makes me sad because it makes assumption that one of my favorite characters, Dakkon, is dead in MTG lore.
I did previously look into having 1 equipment in the deck to help Dakkon be more evasive. The one I have tried is Haunted Cloak. However, it kept being a dead card in hand.I have considered running Loxodon Warhammer instead because it is more useful attached to my smaller/evasive hatebears and may give wanted life gain for survival.
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
Wurwilf: I forgot to mention that even with the drop in presence of Ad Nauseam decks due to all the meta changes in the semi-recent past, storm/solitaire combo decks are one of the harder decks for this list to deal with and in those matchups if Mindslavering them is not an option; hitting them with Annihilator 4, and almost always 12 damage as the only creatures that most storm decks play are mana dorks is usually enough to solve the issue of them just casting Ad Nauseam on your end step and winning on their turn so this is another reason for haste outlets such as Haunted Cloak. I have found that 3 of an effect is usually ideal for something like that and Haunted Cloak costs a relatively low amount to cast and equip, as well as giving other decent abilities (who cares if the storm player blocks with a Deathrite Shaman or Birds of Paradise if Kozilek has trample?).
2 weeks ago
Wurwilf: Trading Post was in the list for quite a while but it is just so slow and most of the time it just made goats for a few turns and got hit by removal. It is great as a tool to loop cards when you have infinite mana and untaps, but Kozilek already does that if there isn't a Rest in Peace effect lying around. I think Trading Post is far better in lists like Karn, Silver Golem where you are more dedicated to combos and don't really have to option of just Annihilator 4'ing away whatever/whoever is causing you problems. And as bizarre as it sounds, Candelabra of Tawnos replaced Trading Post as a sacrifice outlet for my deck by allowing me to untap my High Market/Miren, the Moaning Well. It may not be as consistent at guaranteeing said effects, but I have cast Kozilek, Butcher of Truth on turn one before because of Candelabra of Tawnos so I think the tradeoff is acceptable. There is always Mirage Mirror if I need the extra sacrifice effect too (copy Kozilek, keep the clone) and Mirage Mirror also has really high upsides that Trading Post did not.
Haunted Cloak is definitely on the cutting board but given that the plan is almost always to cast Kozilek really fast, giving him haste is very relevant so that you can cripple/entirely knock someone out of the game the turn you cast him. And in the situation that you do not need it, it is 3 mana, which lines up well with cost discounters like Semblance Anvil to still work as a Dark Ritual effect with Krark-Clan Ironworks (a hidden, but surprisingly relevant theme of the deck, as is the theme of costing 3 mana for Mishra's Workshop shenanigans).
As for Static Orb, I absolutely love the card. An early Kozilek + a stax effect almost always kills off at least 1 player, and if you have good threat assessment, can win the game outright. Static Orb is not my favorite stax piece that the deck runs (that has to go to Tangle Wire) but when it is good, it is absurdly good. Also, it has the best phrase a stax effect could ever have for this deck: "As long as (insert name) is untapped..." meaning that Clock of Omens (or Blinkmoth Well) makes it one sided by tapping it down on your opponent's end step. Given that Clock of Omens is one of the best cards in the deck anyway and almost always my first tutor from a Kuldotha Forgemaster/Inventors' Fair, this is definitely a plus.