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Imprint — When Isochron Scepter enters the battlefield, you may exile an instant card with converted mana cost 2 or less from your hand.
, : You may copy the exiled card. If you do, you may cast the copy without paying its mana cost.
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Isochron Scepter Discussion
44 minutes ago
For starters, thanks for the comment multimedia! Every piece of advice is much appreciated!
Most of the cards you mentioned are definetely worth considering.
Gamble as an unrestricted tutor is nice and having a full grip of seven in hand could help keeping the tutored card. Long-Term Plans may be good for similar reasons, worth testing.
Archaeomancer, Isochron Scepter and Opt are currently under the "testing" category and, once I tried the list as is, I'll certainly slot them in to see if they can bring any improvement.
I'm a bit hesitant about Snap and Capsize, especially looking at the card you suggest cutting (I found bounce creatures very lackluster and buybacking Capsize seems too overcosted without any possibility to reliably pseudo-lock the board).
Anyway I'll think about it and if you have other suggestions please tell me!
1 hour ago
@hkhssweiss: 104; 4 to cut. Ward of Bones looks awesome, but is a drop. I don't want to cut Sanctum Prelate given how much potential she'll have. One card I want to cut is Silence (Even though it's great, Isochron Scepter isn't in, thus the reason behind the cut.). Ideas? I literally went too gutsy & cut even Staff of Domination, & Scroll Rack just to go below CMC 2...
21 hours ago
What would you take out to put in an Isochron Scepter? Asking for a friend (me).
2 days ago
Hey, well done, nice deck and good deck description. You've included just about all the best budget cards here, but I still have a few suggestions :)
Cards to consider adding:
- Gamble: another tutor to get High Tide
- Long-Term Plans: another tutor to get Tide
- Archaeomancer: another way to recur Tide, can be repeatable recursion because can bounce it since it's a creature
- Isochron Scepter: lots of powerful instant spells to imprint, gives you a repeatable way to cast a spell each turn
Other cards to consider:
- Faithless Looting: draw and flashback
- Opt: instant speed draw
- Think Twice: instant speed draw and flashback
- Snap: instant, good with Tide and Scepter
- Capsize: instant, buyback is good to cast it again and it's good with Tide
Cards to consider cutting:
- Dream Fracture
- Volcanic Offering
- Sword of the Animist
- Bonus Round
- Prophetic Bolt
- Pull from Tomorrow
Good luck with your deck.
2 days ago
@hkhssweiss: All right. I suppose I can deal w/ those two; at least they're better than (Insert Boros Partner Duo from Battlebond.). That said; It'll be nuts if I can switch the 99 to 98. If Aurelia is to be removed from the equation, I wonder how these two can be useful for a Value Town/Stax/Prison Deck. Oh, and more questions; should you choose to accept them:
As I'm using Rule of Law/Eidolon of Rhetoric, what cards do you think would work well w/ them in a cEDH environment? I currently have Possibility Storm + Knowledge Pool, but I believe I can think of better while lowering CMC.
Tamiyo's Journal + Thraben Inspector seems Sketchy for a combo; though Inspector seems useful on his own; but what card to use if Tamiyo's Journal is too much? I mean ALL the Artifact Tutors seem too hefty; & nobody likes them in the slightest, even in Boros...
What do you think of the following?: Panharmonicon/Strionic Resonator (Doubling ETB/CIP effects seems great here...), Prototype Portal + Ugin's Nexus/Lotus Petal (Infinite Turns is rarely thought about, but I dunno about Petal on its own...), Aegis of the Gods (I probably am the only one here who thinks this is good...), Paradox Engine (What? I don't even run Isochron Scepter for something Ugin's Nexus can do better.), Farrelite Priest (Err... Better than Gold Myr? At least has a Dork...), Priest of Urabrask (ETB w/ Red's idea of Dark Ritual is always a good thing.), Spirit of the Labyrinth (IMO, the only thing Boros has to the Chains of "What the Hell is your name you friggen n00b! God..."), Palace Sentinels (Monarch is great, but I want to ask: Does Flickering or even Recurring them automatically make another, currently the Monarch give the role to me again? If not, this is a cut.), Goblin Chainwhirler (Damaging foes is great & all; all while NOT targeting them, but is this still worth it?), Grafdigger's Cage/Ashes of the Abhorrent (Some of the best of this deck. But it also locksdown Fiend Hunter + Sun Titan in some ways. Chop it?), Resplendent Mentor (Most o the creatures here are anyway, but since you Mentioned Treasonous Ogre, why would one think he's better than Priest of Urabrask? Gaining life will only make you a primary target for Dethroned...), Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite (7 Drop, & powerful as a staple. Is she worth keeping though?), &... that's it I guess... I wonder what your thoughts on this is; as I need to drop to less than CMC 2 anyway... Now if you don't mind, I'm Switching Commanders (Again...). Now I have 98 problems to deal with...
2 days ago
Tutors are always a good option, but I didn't add any because of the strong card draw engine that is possible through the KCI basis. The protection is something I forgot about mostly, because most of the permanents are expendable. There is Avacyn, Angel of Hope and Darksteel Forge, but adding more protection is never bad. Beside counterspells in white, like Rebuff the Wicked, Dawn Charm, or even Warping Wail, I think blink spells could be used, such as Cloudshift, but I'm not a fan of such protection without an Isochron Scepter. Beside that, theres no extra value gained from them. I wouldn't use Whispersilk Cloak since it gives your creature shroud, but instead stick whit hexproof with Mask of Avacyn or Swiftfoot Boots. You can even go a step further and add an Leonin Abunas, but I think the deck doesn't need too much protection, beside the combo.
3 days ago
I couldn't help but notice Kaho, Minamo Historian is placed in high power, but I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of a Kaho deck that has been considerably optimized for competitive play? I am really intrigued by her, I assume the strategy could be around an infinite turns combo since her ability can be abused with Paradox Engine and Dramatic Reversal with a bunch of rocks on the field. But honestly she's basically a better Isochron Scepter on a 2/2 body and I think she could storm off with Aetherflux Reservoir and Sol Ring in play and Dramatic Reversal exiled with her ability to generate an infinite storm count. The rest of the deck could honestly be some hard control, but needless to say I am very interested and shocked I've never seen her before. The inner blue mage in me is so fascinated by her.
6 days ago
NOTE: This is a topic regarding cEDH Boros. If you think there is no hope for it, do NOT post on this. (The Bold should be warning enough...)
After trying to cut some stuff to 100 for some things, I realized, there is some others to do regarding one deck:
Commander / EDH*
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I previously wanted this to be Tier 3, as one joke cEDH deck (Depala, of all things.), did this. But this is a serious attempt by all means. That said, I'll mention some things worth note to get at least just a little bit closer to my goal:
- Red Elemental Blast, or Pyroplast?
Both of their most recent prints state their abilities differently. Pyroblast has:
Choose one — • Counter target spell if it's blue. • Destroy target permanent if it's blue.
Red Elemental Blast?
Choose one — • Counter target blue spell. • Destroy target blue permanent.
This seems written differently; but I dunno how this is different from the others. Regardless, cEDH usually smiles upon . So I'll leave it to you to decide...
This is a biggie. One person not known for cEDH believes this is a real dud of a wincon. But I'd like some opinions o this. If this really does suck, at least that's 3 cuts so far. Aside from this, Grand Abolisher does wonders here.
This is new as I found that Magistrate's Scepter is just one target for counters; something I know FOR A FACT Boros is NOT good at in the slightest (There, a minus. See? I can agree w/ you too. 0-^) Prototype Portal can imprint any artifact; which can range from an infinite mana via Lotus Petal, or Infinite Turns w/ Ugin's Nexus. Problem? I have little to nothing to destroy the copy is opposed to exiling it. Plus, this is quite expensive; but I don't want to use Final Fortune + Sundial of the Infinite loops; they can be disrupted; besides, this is the only option left (Gonti's Aether Heart is more expensive anyway.). Bonus points for infinite mana in case Ugin's Nexus is a skip. I'll let you decide.
- How the bloody devil is Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite a staple?!
I'm confused about this; happy, but confused. Usually stuff lower than 3 CMC would be fine; but one cEDH Staples lists actually lists her on the main list. runs Dorks, & so few even reach a 3+ toughness. Should I get rid of her for CMC's sake? or should I keep her as a Gamekiller?
W/ so many doing stuff outside of Lifeloss/lifegain, this should be very important to note as others would either Self-Mill via Laboratory Maniac, Maze's End a game, basically put; Wincons that don't depend on Life Total. So, should I put in stuff like these, Goblin Chainwhirler, or other things that can kill life totals? Otherwise, I at least have Altar of the Brood to mill everyone else... XP
After knowing about creatures outside of that can produce Mana, I decided Neheb, the Eternal is no longer enough (It actually requires Damage dealing to make it work; so, I'm thinking of cutting him; considering nobody really wants to damage anyways.). While I could flicker [Farrelite Priest]] & make her new, w/o previous memory, I want to leave it to you; w/ so much Devotion to , Should I rather increase the amount of Plains & decrease the number of Mountains? (I have Blood Moon Anyway...). If she is crap to you, I want to know why; I cannot run Avacyn's Pilgrim you know.
Yes, I get it. Tamiyo's Journal is the only Target of this inspector. That said, Tamiyo's Journal can search for anything. Problem? One target. Not consistent enough, & nobody is recommending a card like Tamiyo's Journal that can also work on its own... Ideas are welcome.
This combo came to me in the form of an Epiphany. After I blow up all lands, I can flicker Fiend Hunter exiling Sun Titan to bring all my lands back; yes, this is possible. Since Lands are 0CMC Permanents, I can bring them all back to my side. even a combo like this can't be stopped by the next part of this charade...
Some of the best cards in this deck so far. It promotes a Prison-Lock for all Graveyards in play. Since this deck should be able to have effects that bypass both of these; I just want to know what to cut due to these...
- I still need an explanation for Rule of Law/Eidolon of Rhetoric + Possibility Storm + Knowledge Pool.
This also applies to what I can use for Arcane Laboratory in . This combo has been looked up, but I dunno how it'll work here... It should be useful, but I dunno if it's cEDH competitive or not; much less how it works. If this is good both ways, I'm keeping them. At least tell me how it works, please...
- Squee Sucks?
Squee, the Immortal + Goblin Bombardment was meant to be used as a combo here. But since this uses Eldrazi Displacer to flicker ETB/CIP Creatures, I'm thinking of cutting the former 2 unless I can find a card that mimics Displacer's effect, so I don't have to have just one of such effect to waste... Felidar Guardian?
- The Emancipation Proclamation NEVER happened...
Emancipation Angel is something not to be cross with. She can return any permanent you control to your hand. Simple as that. Since it's an ETB ability, Eldrazi Displacer can bounce her, & she can do this again. If you want a list of Creatures in my deck that are ETB/CIP based, SUGOI! LET'S KICK As- Captain Janeway: Asteroids. Seven of Nine: Fun will now commence.
(Yes. I LITERALLY pulled off a Star Trek: Voyager.)
Duergar Hedge-Mage Fiend Hunter Goblin Chainwhirler Goblin Settler Imperial Recruiter Mentor of the Meek Mikaeus, the Lunarch Priest of Urabrask Recruiter of the Guard Solemn Simulacrum Sun Titan Thraben Inspector Village Bell-Ringer Wall of Omens Wily Goblin
(Damn, that's a lot... I need to lessen the lot...)
- No Paradox Engine? What the crap?
Paradox Engine is the only thing I have to Isochron Scepter imprinting Dramatic Reversal, so it NEEDS to stay; plus, I could've sworn it was a staple here... While this has quite some ETB/CIP effects, that doesn't have to mean things can't be cast either. Even stuff like Sunforger when casting instants are still considered cast. Even Mistveil Plains can bring them back. I really just wanted to throw in Reito Lantern, though; but cards like Grafdigger's Cage might mess w/ it; so it's now a skip.
- Stax on STACKS on [email protected]
Recently, I wanted to take this deck to a differing route; Value Town/Stax/Prison. This in turn meant a lot of stuff; Glowrider, Thorn of Amethyst (How fitting as it's my birthstone; but I still hated how STEVEN UNIVERSE personified her as a character since the beginning... :/), Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Vryn Wingmare, Ethersworn Canonist, Kismet, even Sphere of Resistance is damn good here. While a lot would think stuff like this is crap here, even stuff like Stranglehold, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Grand Abolisher, even Ugin's Nexus & Defense Grid are all great here. Irony? Many wouldn't see all this as competitive enough. So, w/ all that said, one last thing...
- Any ideas for a new CMDR?
Alright, we're almost done with what might be my longest post here ever... I've been thinking for the longest time; I need a new commander; Gisela, Blade of Goldnight is too much now. Since I took the liberty to change from Stax/Control (Or Value Town/Stax? I dun remember...) to Value Town/Stax/Prison. From there, I decided to make a change of CMDR. But there were bigger flaws w/ most, so I decided to make some regulations:
- No Tier 5 CMDRs.
- No Tribal Commanders (Stuff like Depala, Pilot Exemplar apply here.)
- Partners are only Allowed if not from BBD (Battlebond) (Khorvath Brightflame + Sylvia Brightspear for instance is not allowed.)
- Equipment/Aura Based CMDRS are out; I don't have any of that anyway...
I guess this is alright? The reason I left out 5. It must be Aggro Based is, well, the rest of the Tier 4s w/o only counting none of them.
Now I leave all this to you: What should I cut for a legit Tier 3 cEDH deck? I apologize for the Mammoth Sized Text, but it should be worth the effort.
I am open to Constructive Criticism only. I hope this is of good help for what is worth of help to me. I'll let you decide on my fate on this deck now.