Temple of Mystery
Temple of Mystery enters the battlefield tapped.
When Temple of Mystery enters the battlefield, scry 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put that card on the bottom of your library.)
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Temple of Mystery Discussion
1 month ago
- Cyclonic Rift gets used way too much in my play group so I opt to not include it in any of my decks and I don't think its even necessary seeing as I have tools to make it unblockable.
- The point of Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir and my other flash cards are to ensure I can get a free morph out on each of my opponents turns using Kadena, Slinking Sorcerer, so I want to ensure that the flash is recurrable. Considering that, Emergence Zone is not something I would want. I don't have any big one-turn flash plays that can win me the game so it wouldn't be good for that either
- Ezuri, Claw of Progress is one of my infinite combo pieces so I absolutely am not getting rid of it
- This is also a control combo deck so I'm not interested in using Forsaken Monument and Beastmaster Ascension to make my morph creatures big. Swinging with a lot of big creatures isn't my goal and I don't want it to become that
- I don't think I need signets, I prefer mana fixing through lands rather than artifacts and I'm not in a rush to get my commander out on t2 (it's not the level the deck is intended to be playing at).
- I intend to replace Temple of Mystery with Rejuvenating Springs at some points
- Ancient Tomb is currently $40 and I don't want to spend that much on one single land
Thanks for the recommendations though! All the other ones you gave were pretty good, I'll consider adding them for sure
2 months ago
2 months ago
Very nice. Just before I start talking about cuts and edits, I want to say that your land count is WAY too low. I usually play 35-36 lands, with about 5-10 other mana producers. Only CEDH decks run such a low land count, because they need to play fast with cards like Mana Crypt and such. Add more lands to the deck.
I will start with talking about cuts, because there are a few cards that I feel shouldn't be in the deck.
Jace, Wielder of Mysteries is known for being a wincon in CEDH and strategies that want to mill themselves out. However, it's not right here. There is no real upside to adding it to the deck, so this is an obvious cut.
Thirst for Knowledge: I'm not sure why you put this one here. It doesn't work well due to you having such a low artifact count. Also, it's only a one time card draw, which isn't too good in commander. I guess Chemister's Insight goes in this section as well.
Finale of Revelation can be a good card, but it's mainly used as an infinite mana sink. I would not recommend this in a deck that doesn't go infinite and focuses on creatures.
Nyx Weaver is getting worse and worse. It has gotten to the point where it's nigh unplayable. Cut.
Clone, despite being the original clone, is considered to be one of the worst. I would definitely cut this one out.
I know Nascent Metamorph is a fun card, but people overestimate what this card can do. Don't play it in any non-chaos build.
Mirror Shield? Just don't run it.
Ok, so those are the 10 cards I would cut. Now, adding cards is a bit harder. In my suggestions for the forum for this deck, I suggested a reanimator theme, but it looked like you didn't take it, so I won't add too many cards from reanimator strategies. Also, it looks like you are working on a "budget", so I won't suggest anything over ~$20.
Just a quick note; When people are making these clone strategies, they often forget to put enough creatures to copy. This is a common deck building mistake, but something that will cost you games.
As Jimmy showed in the latest "Game Knights" episode, Solemn Simulacrum is crazy in clone decks, and seconds as ramp and card draw.
Finally, speaking about ramp, Rampant Growth is still one of the best ramp cards in the game.
Now, you may have noticed I only suggested 5 cards when I cut 10, and that's because you need to raise your land count. Below are some budget but good lands you should work with. Also, try not to work with too many tap lands, as they slow your game down.
Zagoth Triome: A bit pricy but it's fetchable or can be used to dig through your deck.
Finally, I will recommend my favorite cycle of lands, the pain lands. Llanowar Wastes, Yavimaya Coast, and their more expensive sibling Underground River enter untapped and add any of the two mana you need.
Just cut some basics to add these lands in. But don't cut too many basics! You need about 12 basics at minimum in a casual deck!
If you want to look any further into the clones strategy, take a look at EDHREC's page for clone strategies. (https://edhrec.com/themes/clones)
I like how you chose some interesting cards I have never seen before, and this deck looks fun to play. I hope these suggestions were of some help to you.
3 months ago
6 months ago
A little more land tech: Cinder barrens could be swapped out for Bloodfell Caves I would switch both bloodfell/Cinder and the copy of Swiftwater Cliffs for copies of Temple of Mystery and Temple of Malice.
(probably the dimir guildgate could be swapped out for Dismal Backwater in order to keep it more budget than my earlier suggestion)
I’ll put up more in a few hours, or, barring that, tomorrow. It’ll just take me a bit longer to find synergy pieces.
6 months ago
Hey, nice budget upgrades to the precon: Sea-Dasher, Reconnaissance, Brokkos, and Triome.
Elusive Tormentor Flip and Troll Ascetic are two budget creatures who you want to mutate with Otrimi. Tormentor for Insidious Mist when mutated with Otrimi makes a 6/6 hexproof, indestructible, unblockable, trample Beast. Discard a creature with mutate to flip Tormentor and recur that creature with Otrimi. The combination of hexproof and regenerate of Ascetic is powerful with mutate.
Hexproof is key and it's wanted because it protects the creature you're mutating to from targeted removal before it mutates and then after it protects the mutate pile so you can safely mutate again. Swiftfoot Boots can equip to any creature you control giving it hexproof.
( > = could replace)
- Elusive Tormentor Flip > Vorapede.
- Troll Ascetic > Vastwood Hydra.
- Swiftfoot Boots > Phantom Warrior.
The manabase of the precon is not good and you haven't changed it much. The color fixing is not good enough to be able to consistently cast Otrimi. Needing three different colors and having 11x basic Forests is going to be problematic without more color fixing.
On a budget, a manabase change to consider is to add the Bounce lands: Simic Growth Chamber, Dimir Aqueduct, Golgari Rot Farm in place of other lands that ETB tapped. With Bounce lands have to return a land you control to your hand (bounce) and they interact well with a basic land to bounce. They help with color fixing since you tap them for two different colors of mana.
- Dimir Aqueduct > Dimir Guildgate.
- Golgari Rot Farm > Golgari Guildgate.
- Simic Growth Chamber > Temple of Mystery.
- Yavimaya Coast > Thornwood Falls.
- Ash Barrens > Temple of the False God.
- Evolving Wilds > Soaring Seacliff.
- Could cut 2x Forest, add 2x more Island.
More Signets can help with faster ramp and color fixing. Arcane Signet is great, but there's three other budget Signets to consider adding: Simic Signet, Golgari Signet and Dimir Signet (Ravnica version). A Signet is helpful since any basic Forest or any other land can be used to make two different colors of mana.
Shared Summons is a budget instant creature tutor that can put any two creatures into your hand. Jarad's Orders is another creature tutor that puts a creature into your hand and any other creature into your graveyard such as one with mutate to recur with Otrimi. Primal Empathy can be repeatable draw source or repeatable source to make Otrimi bigger. Season of Growth can be another repeatable draw source, any time you cast a creature for it's mutate cost targeting a creature to mutate.
- Shared Summons > Illusory Ambusher.
- Jarad's Orders > Cavern Whisperer.
- Primal Empathy > Mysterious Egg.
- Season of Growth > Mind Spring.
Good luck with your deck.
6 months ago
Hey, nice budget version of Kalamax. Several good upgrades you've made to the precon.
Chord of Calling with Kalamax to tutor for Pili + Architect for infinite mana is interesting. Consider more ways to draw into a win condition when you have infinite mana? Without the draw making infinite mana with Pili + Architect or with Scepter + Reversal doesn't do enough. Expansion / Explosion is another instant Fork or Explosion with infinite mana can draw a lot of cards. Pull from Tomorrow and Blue Sun's Zenith are other instants that draw X cards.
Nivix Guildmage with infinite mana can draw into your deck until you find a win condition as well as counters to protect the combo. Guildmage with infinite mana can also infinite copy an instant/sorcery you cast which can make Banefire a win condition since you can copy it for each opponent and target a different opponent with each copy. If you can some how get a third copy of Chord when you cast it then you can also tutor for Guildmage.
Some lands in the manabase could be upgraded. Life lands from the precon and Scry temple lands are not worth ETB tapped. Survivors' Encampment and Holdout Settlement are unique lands with Kalamax because they're repeatable ways to tap him. These lands are like Springleaf Drum, they make mana when you use them to tap Kalamax or another creature. But unlike Drum you can tutor for and put onto the battlefield with Crop Rotation. Having more ways to tap Kalamax without attacking while also making mana is beneficial.
Some other good lands that are reasonable price to consider adding are: Rootbound Crag and Shivan Reef. The Filter lands: Cascade Bluffs, Flooded Grove and Fire-Lit Thicket are at lowest price due to just being reprinted in Double Masters. Can get these lands for as low as $5 each. Bluffs is helpful since it can make or , important color combinations to want to consistently make to cast instants for Kalamax.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Rugged Highlands
- Thornwood Falls
- Swiftwater Cliffs
- Temple of Mystery
- Aggressive Mammoth
- Charmbreaker Devils
- Djinn Illuminatus
- Refuse / Cooperate
Good luck with your deck.
6 months ago
Hey, good version of Kalamax.
32 lands is low especially when you're trying to get to nine mana for Chord to combo with Kiki. My advice is add more lands or more two drop mana rocks or both. Arcane Signet and Fellwar Stone are mana rock options, they could replace Docent of Perfection Flip and Mizzix of the Izmagnus. This can help to reduce the avg. CMC and improve ramp. Docent is not as good, much slower, than Talrand/Murmuring and your not going to gaining very many experience counters from Mizzix since you have mostly low CMC instant/sorceries. Invigorating Surge, Refuse / Cooperate, Rapid Hybridization and Sublime Epiphany are options to cut to add more lands.
With a budget of $600+ could make some upgrades to the manabase. Lands such as Rupture Spire, Gain lands (Rugged Highlands), Scry lands (Temple of Mystery) are for low budget decks and Fast lands (Spirebluff Canal) will more times than not ETB tapped. I'm not a fan of Fast lands in Commander because as one ofs the consistency of having one in your opening hand or drawing one before turn three is too low.
Kalamax being a four drop also makes Fast lands not good if it's your turn four land drop then it makes it more difficult to cast Kalamax. Fast lands, Gain Lands, Scry lands and other lands that ETB tapped don't go well with Bounce lands (Simic Growth Chamber) together in the same manabase since having to bounce a Fast land sets you back even more for mana. Bounce lands also ETB tapped, but they're better at making mana/color fixing and with Seedborn/Reclamation.
Some lands to consider adding:
- 2x Island
- Exotic Orchard
- Stomping Ground
- Steam Vents
- Shivan Reef
- Yavimaya Coast
- Sulfur Falls
- Hinterland Harbor
- Rootbound Crag
There's several cards in the sideboard that are better than cards in the main deck. Reverberate and Twincast are more two drop Forks that combo with Kalamax and Ral as the win condition. They're better cards than Invigorating Surge and Refuse / Cooperate. Chandra's Ignition is better than Immolating Gyre especially if you add more Forks to the main deck. Ways to give Kalamax infinite power which makes Ignition a win condition. Dig Through Time is better than Thassa's Intervention since you only have to pay for delve once.
I offer more advice, would you like more advice?
Good luck with your deck.