Nesting Grounds

Land

{T}: Add {C}.

{1}, {T}: Move a counter from target permanent you control onto another target permanent. Activate this ability only at any time you could cast a sorcery.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (51)

Apoptosis on Gear Up!

4 months ago

Specific changes. All of these changes optimize card draw, tutoring, protection to board state, create synergies and infinite combos, and optimization to allow instant speed responses.

OUT: Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist (thought this would be awesome, disappointed in performance) Assemble the Players (sub-optimal card draw) Aurelia's Fury Bitterthorn, Nissa's Animus (land drops have not been a problem and by the time I draw it, I needed something else) Brimaz, King of Oreskos (love this guy, but had to cut) Chained to the Rocks Elbrus, the Binding Blade  ^Flip (obtained better equipment) Fellwar Stone Hixus, Prison Warden (never happy when I had this in hand because you need to let the damage land, plus you fail to build board state when waiting to draw a punch) Illusionist's Bracers (I realized there was little in this deck that this could help) Kemba, Kha Enduring (I want the option of where the equipment goes) Kjeldoran Outpost (did help create a chump blocker and spend unused mana, but I didn't like losing the land) Lapse of Certainty (replaced with better options, but I love this card) Lightning Helix Path of Mettle  ^Flip (never had good results) Prophetic Flamespeaker (under-performed) Puresteel Paladin (tough cut) Purphoros, God of the Forge (under-performed) Rogue's Passage Sea Gate Wreckage Silverblade Paladin (love this guy, tough cut) Sram, Senior Edificer (very tough and recent cut for Leonin Shikari and Merry, who are just better but I may put back in) Sword of the Animist (land drops have not been a problem and by the time I draw it, I needed something else) Wingmate Roc (love it but under-performed)

In: Esper Sentinel (card draw) Leonin Shikari (instant speed equiping is amazing) Merry, Esquire of Rohan (card draw) Enlightened Tutor (great for combos/synergies) Sigarda's Aid (so great) Pyrohemia (this card is a beast with Iroas! Even without Iroas must people don't have easy ways to deal with enchantments and this is a wraith on a stick. I've added it to all of my red decks and it's cousin (Pestilence) to my black decks in a slot I would normally hold for a wraith) Teferi's Protection (protect the board state) Excalibur, Sword of Eden Fighter Class (tutor!) Angelic Skirmisher (lifelink to stretch game and facilitates infinite combos) Splendor Mare (put it on Reckoner or Spitemare, give them indestructable, and gain infinite life, or move it to pyrohemia with nesting grounds to get massive amounts of life as you flamethrower the whole table!!) Mask of Avacyn (better option then shroud from boots, you need to be able to dynamically react/voltron) Mob Rule (this just finishes games) Smothering Tithe (ramp) Sunforger (some say you must build around this, I say you use this as a key tutor for when you need an instant) Nesting Grounds Spitemare The One Ring (card draw, duh) Minas Tirith (card draw) Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion (value engine, mana dump) Phyrexian Vindicator (beefy flier, helps get Iroas online, and difficult to remove) War of the Last Alliance (tutor) Hall of Heliod's Generosity (bring back pyrohemia and flamethrower the world all over again!!) Mask of Memory (card draw) Boromir, Warden of the Tower (protect board state)

TheoryCrafter on Help me to build my …

5 months ago

Okay, I am back thank you for your patience. I don't know if you're just looking for advice or if you want a whole deck list, so I'll meet you somewhere in between.

So I use the manabox app for card listings. Turns out I miscounted and there are 35. If you put all but Twisted Riddlekeeper(potential color identity issues) in there you have a good start.

Perhaps the strongest cards in addition to Fear of Sleep Paralysis are Mjolnir, Storm Hammer, Monstrosity of the Lake and Scroll of Isildur; though even cards like Kitnap, Lost in the Maze and Sleep-Cursed Faerie can be a boon due to Tekuthal's activated ability and not be affected by Fear of Sleep Paralysis.

One card I recommend you add is Maskwood Nexus. Both Protocol Knight and The Watcher in the Water require creature types to be effective.

Speaking of Watcher in the Water, you'll need instant speed card draw. You're gonna need card draw regardless, but WitW will need feeding to be effective. This includes, but isn't limited to Archmage's Charm, Bane's Contingency, Jace's Archivist, Opt and Triskaidekaphile.

Triskaidekaphile is an Alternate Win Card as well, which you should have in your deck as a means of winning if you can't win by beating up your opponents. Other Alternate Win cards that would also fit the best in this deck are Central Elevator / Promising Stairs(To fully take advantage of the Eerie ability on Fear of Sleep Paralysis), Darksteel Reactor and Twenty-Toed Toad(which doesn't specify what counters apply to the win condition).

The latter two are fed well by your commander's static ability. Proliferate cards you can use include, but are not limited to, Contagion Engine, Contentious Plan and Inexorable Tide.

However, if you have a Commander like Tekuthal, it would not be wise to NOT take advantage of the proliferate ability. Crystalline Giant can give your creatures counters other than +1/+1, especially if you use Goldberry, River-Daughter to move hexproof counters onto your most important pieces. Power Conduit is another card that can strengthen your creatures. And you certainly can't go wrong with The Ozolith of you can afford it.

Ramp, like card draw, should be in every deck. Sol Ring is practically a necessity. Astral Cornucopia and Everflowing Chalice become mana fountains of their own once the charge counters are on and proliferating. Though cards like Arcane Melee, Defiler of Dreams and Urza's Incubator(which gets support from Maskwood Nexus) are just as useful.

And finally there's lands that can help with counters(like Nesting Grounds and Blast Zone), reusing spells(Like Mystic Sanctuary), redundancy(such as Reliquary Tower) and can offer elements of control not available to blue(such as Scavenger Grounds. Try this keep at least half lands as Basic Islands. That way, if you get hit with cards like Alpine Moon or Blood Moon it's not an immediate capitation.

Well, that it for my part. I hope this is a help, if nothing else than for inspiration. Thank you for reading me out. Happy Hunting!

DreadKhan on Xavier Sal, Infested Captain (Sagas)

5 months ago

Just some general points, I like that you have a decent land count (37 and plenty of non-Basics is nice to see), I like that the list seems to have a fair bit of card draw, and I like that the token theme gives the deck some resilience. I like that it doesn't seem too pushed for a pod of 7s, but I feel like if you play vs 8s you will be too behind the curve without more ramp. I have a list of some favorite ramp effects in Green, I hope you can get some mileage out of them!

Have you come across Nesting Grounds before? It probably makes sense in here. It can remove a counter each turn as saga counters can be dumped elsewhere to do nothing.

Unless you have some REALLY good synergies for them I wouldn't use non-Indestructible Artifact lands (like Seat of the Synod), these can easily be swept up in a Vandalblast or Bane of Progress, or be a juicy target of opportunity if someone has extra mana and cards.

This is somewhat personal preference, but if you're in Green you probably should look into stuff like Nature's Lore, Three Visits, and Farseek, these can find dual lands (or even your Triome), meaning they are good at ramping you AND fixing your mana. There is also Wood Elves, Crop Rotation, and Open the Way that are all very high value ways to ramp non-Basic lands. Is your play group against land ramp? if so I can suggest other forms of ramp, but these are usually the best for a 7 or 8.

My final point is that Enchantress is good draw, but small scale draw effects are pretty sweet too, I'm thinking stuff like Night's Whisper or Elvish Visionary, these don't require setup and can help in almost any situation (they also attract a LOT less negative attention than having 2 or more Enchantress sources out). Painful Truths and Costly Plunder are interesting, but both require more setup and can leave you in the lurch in the key early turns.

DreadKhan on Katilda WIDE boi

7 months ago

Harmonious Archon would probably play incredibly well in here since it sets base power and toughness, and the counters your Commander puts out mean that even a single use of the ability means all your creature outclass all of your opponents. If you wanted to make a lot of enemies you could try Humility, but that's also fairly expensive! If you did want to try it out (maybe as a proxy for awhile to see if other people hate it) the idea would be to develop a wide board and put a counter on each, then play Humility and stomp everyone with Overrun effects (Green has a bunch that are budget). If you have the Archon out it'd be hilarious to use Nacatl War-Pride to clear someone's board (it also means everything else of yours gets in vs that player since their creatures get tokens to block).

Since you already use +1 counters, you might like Metastatic Evangel, Proliferate is a really strong ability if it's at all relevant to your strategy, and this is a repeatable source. If you Proliferate a counter that doesn't stack (like a Trample counter), you can move it with Nesting Grounds. If you have any other Proliferate cards kicking around, maybe Evolution Sage or Contagion Engine, these would be great in here too I suspect.

If you find people are clobbering you with artifact and enchantments I'd use Aura Shards, assuming your opponents aren't going to flip the table, I also like Soltari Visionary as a repeatable removal and evasive creature. Transmogrifying Wand is good without Proliferate sources, but if you add both the card is pretty strong creature hate.

YMMV naturally but I suspect your deck would run more smoothly if you could sneak a few more lands into the list; if you really want to keep your creature count high you could try throwing in a few man-lands like Mishra's Factory and Treetop Village. If you want I could dig around for a few more, I'd want 33 or 34 lands for a deck like this, especially since you don't run a lot of land ramp (stuff like Rampant Growth). You might also look into Modal Dual-Face Cards, Strength of the Harvest  ^Flip is the GW option, but Bala Ged Recovery  ^Flip is amazing, and many good players swear by Ondu Inversion  ^Flip, this type of card shines brightly when you'd probably want the type of effect the card side produces but are running the MDFC as a redundant copy of the effect; you don't run Ondu Inversion as your only wipe generally, you run it as your 3rd or 4th one, and if you don't need a wipe it's a land. I wouldn't cut lands to add MDFCs at your present land count, but if you were at say 33 true lands and snuck in 2 or 3 MDFCs you'd probably much happier with how this list plays out.

If you want more help with anything in particular I or someone else could probably give some ideas! Hope you have fun with your list, I love building a deck out of what I've got kicking around, you usually end up with so much character and flavor.

DreadKhan on My nadu

9 months ago

I have no idea if you want random input on this, so ignore this if you don't!

It might clog up your mana base, but you could sneak a few more creatures by throwing in a couple man-lands to replace other lands. With Nadu you'd put them directly into play, and even if they ETB tapped they can still become a creature and be targeted. There are a few that only use 1 mana to transform (such as Mishra's Factory and Inkmoth Nexus/Blinkmoth Nexus), but a few that turn on for 2 mana exist as well (Treetop Village, Faerie Conclave, Lair of the Hydra, and Mishra's Foundry), I feel like with all your 'free mana whenever a land ETBs' effects you'll easily be able to use them when you need them. The ETB tapped ones are worse (but usually offer colored mana), but as noted you'll usually see a given land when you're using Nadu (because you go through so many more cards with Nadu than you draw normally), so all that matters is they are creatures too, when I was testing this the issue was running out of creatures and not being able to continue, I often had gobs of mana I had no real use for (I will say the deck can easily hold up a hand full of interaction after using Nadu, even if you don't truly 'go off'). I took a quick look at your land list, and if I wanted to pull a couple lands I think Talon Gates of Madara has low synergy, I'd also consider Nesting Grounds, and since you have a few removal spells you might even switch out Homeward Path, depending on how theft-heavy your meta is.

Since you can generate a fair bit of mana in this deck when you're going off (and playing it for 4 or 5 mana in a slow game could also be a solid play) I think Awaken the Woods might do work in here.

It's pretty minor, but Whir of Invention costs one more (but has improvise fwiw), it doesn't require you to have an existing Artifact out, and it's an Instant so you can use it on an opponent's end step to get your Shuko out so you can go off on your turn. I think this is more than you can do with Reshape, ymmv.

It's a niche use, but if you switch out Amphibian Downpour (a card I legit love btw) for Curse of the Swine you'd have the option of targeting all of your disposable creatures and replacing them with brand spanking new piggies! These can be targeted anew, meaning if you draw into it at the right time it should win the game. It can also be used aggressively to excellent effect (and can do both at the same time), it sucks that it's a Sorcery though!

This is really splitting hairs a bit, but with your Commander I wonder if good old Sunder might be better at doing what Mana Vortex does? Sunder's an Instant (so you can play it on an opponent's endstep), and as long as you've already got Nadu and a free equip out you'll be fine on your turn, but it's also a much worse Blue Silence effect you can use during your combo to make it much harder to interact with you, and you just keep digging out new lands so it's all good? I love Mana Vortex and think it's doing a different enough thing that both could be fun. You could also try out Winter Orb and Static Orb if you're feeling, well, 'orbsy', both make it much harder to use lands, and you get to cheat a ton in untapped if all is going well.

Hope your testing is going well!

Oh, it looks like you have 99 cards, what a lovely problem to have!

Yesterday on Can Saga cards that are …

10 months ago

I was playing on Arena and had my Reezug, the Bonecobbler reanimate a Sheoldred  ^Flip.

I then foolishly activated Sheoldred's ability to exile itself and return transformed as an artifact with lore abilities, which didn't put any counters on itself because it wasn't a Saga. So it didn't do anything.

Now, I'm not 100% on this following part. Arena normally greys out text that isn't currently applicable to the permanent it's printed on. For example, a Sheoldred that is an artifact and not a creature has its creature stat line greyed out. I think it also has its menace ability greyed out. And I think that the backside of the card did not have its lore abilities greyed out, implying that they would still work if they were triggered somehow. I think.

Regardless, my question is, would that nonenchantment artifact The True Scriptures  ^Flip (perpetualised or otherwise) trigger its abilities if a lore counter were put onto it via Nesting Grounds or somethibg like that?

Profet93 on S U P E R F R ! E N D S (Yawgmoth)

1 year ago

SufferFromEDHD +1

I would remove Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted as it's your weakest walker. If you are going to keep him, would you consider adding Peer into the Abyss for synergy?

Ugin, the Ineffable - It acts as ramp for more than 10% of your deck, provides creature fodder, draw, as well as potential artifact/enchantment removal which black desperately needs.

You do not have enough basics to reliably trigger cabal stronghold.

Nesting Grounds - Could this be helpful?

Damnation - Sometimes things just need to die

leon_bulminot on We're All Friends Here

1 year ago

Okay so couple cards to consider, specifically for planeswalkers.

First off, activating MULTIPLE planeswalker abilities of a single planeswalker in a single turn: The Chain Veil. And if you have Teferi, Temporal Archmage out with Chain Veil, and a few mana producing artifacts and a Proliferate effect from say Viral Drake or something, infinite counters on your walkers. I usually did it with Gilded Lotus, Thran Dynamo and a Sol Ring, with Chain Veil being the fourth untapped artifact. Proliferate with Viral Drake and you negate Temporal Archmage losing counters.

Next up is additional Counters. Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider and Doubling Season. Enough said right? Contagion Engine is a tad expensive to get online but, double proliferate. And if you had a Tekuthal, Inquiry Dominus on board, quadruple proliferate for 4 mana. So starting out, with everything on the field, Ugin, the Spirit Dragon enters the battlefield with 28 counters from just from Vorinclex and Doubling season. Add in the quadruple proliferate and it just gets dumb. Generally once Doubling Season hits, you can ult your planeswalkers THAT turn. Also, Nesting Grounds pairs well with Tekuthal to move indestructible counters onto other permanents.

Best five color mana searcher ever that is expensive but at one extra above Migration path, especially since planeswalker decks are more mid game, Shard Convergence is like a mega Expedition Map but in green.

A walker that’s good for searching anything, Liliana Vess.

If you want solid searching combo that also lets you untap artifacts as well as hunt for whatever you want is Tezzeret the Seeker and Mycosynth Lattice. And if you want to shut the game down for a win, so long as you have enough creatures to protect him, Karn, the Great Creator and Mycosynth shuts down ALL opponents mana flow. Wanna blow it up? Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Kormus Bell, and then some blanket -1 toughness effect.

There are so many ways you can go with walker decks. But those are some things I use and still use.