Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
Oran-Rief, the Vastwood enters the battlefield tapped.
: Gain .
: Put a +1/+1 counter on each green creature that entered the battlefield this turn.
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|Commander 2020 (C20)||Rare|
|Duel Decks: Elves vs. Inventors (DDU)||None|
|Commander Anthology (CM1)||Rare|
|Commander 2015 (C15)||Rare|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Rare|
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Oran-Rief, the Vastwood Discussion
3 weeks ago
First, play whatever cards you want or feel like. Your deck, your gameplay, and Have Fun!
The following are all friendly suggestions not in any way meant as criticism of your deck. But the singleton thing should get stopped. Figure out which elves work best for your local metagame and the decks you play against. Then go to 2 or 4 copies each of them. Cut the situational cards and put them in the sideboard for game 2 or remove them entirely. I would also follow abby315's list of suggestions and his suggestion of ditching weak pump spells and replace them with the various lords or creatures with a pump capability like others have suggested. Here is a list of cards that may be decent replacements or adds to your deck:
Ezuri, Renegade Leader is probably one of the better elf cards for aggro elves. Provides Regeneration for any other elves you have and Overrun at will. I would go to a 2 count
Imperious Perfect: Replace Wirewood Hivemaster with this card. The hivemaster produces insects so they wont bonus from your anthem/lord effects. Is not legendary so you can have up to 4 copies. Besides pumping all your other elves, they even produce them every turn. Worth 2-4 copies.
Reclamation Sage: Replace Deconstruct with this, maybe go to 2 copies main deck. But if the deck is for 1 on 1 put them in the sideboard for game 2.
Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen: Replace Stream of Life with this guy, go to 2 copies of this maybe
Loxodon Warhammer, Rancor or anything like them: Replace your instants that boost creatures with permanents like these or similar instead. Or if you are going to have a combat trick in your hand then make it something like Overwhelming Stampede, Wrap in Vigor or Heroic Intervention like abby315 suggested. If it's not a permanent you want a card that is going to change the game state dramatically not just boost 1 creature for 1 turn. Remember, if you have a card like Ezuri, Renegade Leader or your Timberwatch Elf you can activate his ability at instant speed which surprises people if they lose track of what you have in play.
Return of the Wildspeaker: An example of a go big instant instead of cards like Giant Growth. Replace any instant you have with this card. Its modal to refill your hand or giant growth all of your elves. At instant speed.
Beast Within: If you want instant speed removal, use a catch-all card like this instead of 1 card for artifacts, 1 card for creatures, etc. It doesnt need to be this card specifcally but one that targets any permanent at instant speed. And run at least 2 copies of it main deck to always have an answer in your deck for your opponent's stuff.
Lifecrafter's Bestiary: Replace wurm's tooth with a copy of this card instead. It will accelerate your deck. 2 copies wouldnt hurt.
Some good utlity cards:
Bow of Nylea: Excellent all around support card. Does many things but the big one is giving your elves deathtouch so even when you attack with them when they are tiny, they kill stuff. All the other utility is amazing value.
Leyline of Abundance: Another mana ramp/anthem/lord option that has a chance of getting put into play on turn 1.
Nullmage Shepherd: This card is like repeatable Naturalize. Sometimes holding an instant in your hand is better, but sometimes repeatable wins games.
Titania's Chosen: Replace stuff like Wurm's tooth or Nomadic Elf, Norwood Ranger with cards like this or some of your other better creatures you should be running more copies of.
Masked Admirers: Another good elf creature that provides a repeatable benefit that can be used to replace other cards you arent thrilled about.
Creeping Renaissance: Following someone wiping the table, this card or Fresh Meat can get you right back into the game.
Planeswalker suggestions. Because they are resistant to removal and can add a lot to a game if it goes long. Multiple repeatable abilities are strong. They are expensive, and I would try to trade for them if possible. If interested:
Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury: She makes llanowar elves! And she basically does all the things in Green's pie. Makes lots of elves, destroys artifacts and enchantments at will and draws cards.
Nissa, Who Shakes the World: Not on theme for elves, but she is so strong that I would feel lame not mentioning it for a mono green deck. Her static ramps you crazy style and her ultimate can finish games.
Nissa Revane: Basically, her ultimate would put all 24 of your elves into play in one turn. If you do want to put copies of her in your deck, I would also suggest replacing some other elves with 4 copies of Nissa's Chosen for added value.
Vivien Reid: This is a well-balanced walker for any green deck. Built in card advantage, removal and flyer killing, and then her ultimate is an emblem better than almost any other lord/anthem effect you can put in the deck.
Garruk Wildspeaker: My lowest choice for the list, but he plays early and produces creatures.
Land Suggestions. You may not need them, being mono-green doesnt mean there arent a couple good lands for your deck:
Oran-Rief, the Vastwood: While this is in play, most every creature you cast will get a counter. Basically a free boost for a little tempo loss.
Rogue's Passage: Does what it says, sometimes you only need 1 more hit to win. And it taps for some mana.
Pendelhaven: As long as this is untapped, a shock spell wont kill an elf! Kind of situational but useful.
Treetop Village: A forest that's also a 3/3 creature when you need it.
Again, these are just ideas to get you thinking about ways to improve your deck. The most important thing is to focus on what you want to do with the deck. Then get 4 copies of every card in your deck that makes that happen. Everything else after that should provide support, advantage or acceleration for those main cards.
1 month ago
2 months ago
Good start. I think Spiders can be pretty scary when they get set up. The real advantage of this tribe is the defense they offer, making it very hard to attack you.
You are really low on lands. I think 36 would be a minimum, but 37-38 might be ideal considering how slow spiders are. I would recommend Oran-Rief, the Vastwood to make your spiders bigger. Bojuka Bog could also easily make an appearance here. A few more dual and tri-lands to smooth out your mana wouldn't hurt, either.
You're missing a few spiders I would consider important, notably Silklash Spider, Spider Spawning, Arachnogenesis, Hatchery Spider, Nyx Weaver, Jungle Weaver (cycling and a fatty is nice) and Blightwidow. There are also the anti-flying spiders Oran-Rief Recluse and Stingerfling Spider that will often have good targets. In a format where Lightning Greaves is a staple, I like having access to Acid Web Spider.
In terms of synergy with Thantis, Obscuring Haze seems great, Crawlspace seems good at directing combat elsewhere, and Sight of the Scalelords gives your team vigilance and they also get pretty beefy.
In terms of cuts, I would start with the large amount of tricks you are playing. They are okay 1v1, but start to look a lot worse in multiplayer. Some number of Dark Dabbling, Undying Evil, Without Weakness, Kaya's Ghostform, and Minion's Return would be fine.
You also have a series of instants and sorceries that don't offer enough value in my opinion, such as Crash Through and Pyretic Ritual. Explore won't work too well with only 32 lands, either.
I would also think about cutting Viper's Kiss and Atarka's Command.
I don't know if you mistook her for a spider, but Xira Arien is an insect. You could be playing much better card draw instead of her.
Hope this helps!
3 months ago
Golgari Rot Farm, Hissing Quagmire, Jungle Hollow, Khalni Garden, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, and Temple of Malady would be immediate cuts from me. I'd run things like City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Overgrown Tomb, Forbidden Orchard, and fetches instead (if you can afford them).
4 months ago
Or even Varolz, the Scar-Striped
4 months ago
Hey, saw your post on reddit and couldn't help but check it out. I love me some elfball, so here's what I've got for you. Everything is of course my opinion and to be taken with ample helpings of salt. Hope it helps!
Lands: Mosswort Bridge is a trap, though I haven't tried it in elves yet. Reliquary Tower is a trap, when you fire off in an elfball deck you can usually cast what you draw. I'm okay with your tapped cycling lands bc they cycle, so that's fine, and Oran-Rief, the Vastwood is sneaky good. It's the only tapland I tend to run. Your best land by far is Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx and the best way to get it is Crop Rotation. When you already have it, you'll want to use it for an instant-speed Wasteland/Strip Mine or Wirewood Lodge. I don't usually run Ancient Tomb in elves but there's nothing saying you can't, and it helps when you have plenty of things with generic costs, as you do, along with some lifegain.
Potential Cuts and Swaps: Harmonize out, Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip in: Harmonize is a classic, but Growing Rites never disappoints. Even if it whiffs, you probably have a gaea's cradle at end of turn.
Overwhelming Stampede out, Finale of Devastation in: You already have the Ibex, and the Finale is far more versatile than the Stampede can ever be. Can grab all sorts of things instead of being a single pump and dump. Considering it could double Marwyn's mana output for a turn could earn its keep, though.
Wellwisher out, Essence Warden in: Incidental lifegain, if you want to use it, might be more reliable than being able to tap the Wellwisher for its effect reliably. Also, the Warden triggers on all creatures, including opponents.
Desert of the Indomitable out, Veil of Summer in: This card is just too good. Also, 33 lands is too many (I know, but you'd be surprised!) and this one ETB taps AND cycles for 2 mana instead of 1, so I'd cut it.
Doubling Season out, Asceticism in: I'm not sold on Doubling Season here, honestly, as Hardened Scales could serve the same purpose in most cases regarding the way this deck puts +1/+1 counters on things one at a time (mostly). If you REALLY want to lean in on the token doubling from Lys Alana Huntmaster, Elvish Promenade, and Imperious Perfect then it might could stay.
Genesis Wave out, Kindred Summons in: This counts tokens...it is ridiculous and casting it when you only have 3 or 4 elves out still feels great, whereas if you flip Praetor's Counsel with a nasty Genesis Wave you're a sad panda.
Dwynen's Elite needs a home here, its 2 mana for 2 counters on Marwyn, among other benefits. Not sure on what to pull out, but I've never been a big fan of Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen herself, really. You don't want to stack too deep on lord effects when its so easy to tutor them out or draw them for an explosive growth instead.
The last thing I will note, is that any non-Elf REALLY needs to earn its keep. Each and every elf in your list makes it stronger, be it with more mana, more tokens, more counters, all of those things.
The reddit thread has some great recommendations on cards to check out as well, so you've got a lot to sift through. Good base though!
Rhys Up is my current GB list, there might be some ideas for you in the main and maybe boards. The deck is mostly green but plays my favorite black stuff, and most of the cost difference between these two lists lies in the manabase.
4 months ago
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4 months ago
Some budget landbase options;