This enters the battlefield tapped.
, : Destroy all artifacts, creatures, and enchantments.
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- Stack and ability resolutions seem counter-intuitive, can someone please explain...
- Oblivion stone 2nd ability is activated opponent activates nevinyrral's disk .What happens? planeswalkers in play
- When a Bearer of the Heavens dies, does Marchesa and her friends come back?
- Mass Destruction and non indestructible permanents that give indestructibility
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Nevinyrral's Disk Discussion
3 days ago
2 weeks ago
Thanks for the comments!
Wow. After looking at that burn deck I understand what sergiodelrio was getting at. I think I was being a naïve. That other mono-red hollow deck looks pretty interesting though and probably more our level/slightly above.
The deck below is a rough outline of what I can remember for a white deck I put together. I think its fun because I plays differently in a lot of situations. The amounts aren't exact. There is some other stuff in there I can't remember like a life boost (I think a creature or two that gives life upon sacrifice). For deck building we generally build with what we already have (I have bought specific cards before to be really annoying such as Armageddon). So I typically don't have enough cards to reliably power combo, though its likely I'm not clever enough yet to recognize the potential with what I have. To compete against this he usually whips out a blue deck with tons of counters, clones, and stealing. They are roughly even. A red deck in the theme of burn has also been used (mana vaults, sol rings, fireballs and goblin gernades etc).
Land Drifting Meadow x 4 and Misc.
Side board -- all available cards.
2 weeks ago
TL;DR: I want to make Turbo Fog better, but I'm not sure how.
I like the philosophy of Turbo Fog, and I've had some success with it in FNMs and casual tournaments. I'm trying to push it up into at least low-tier competitive, but I think it's gotten left pretty far behind. It hasn't really gotten any new toys recently to get it above casual tables.
Basically, Turbo Fog is a control deck that tries to avoid taking any damage by neutralizing the opponent's attacking creatures and avoiding or removing harmful spells. It's a similar line of thought to Lantern Control or prison decks.
Starting with the Fog part, there are a few ways to go. Spore Frog and Kami of False Hope are cheap creatures that are easily searched and recycled, but there aren't many other creature options. The old-school method is instants like Darkness and Ethereal Haze, but while they have more options, they don't have as many ways to search or recur them, with Isochron Scepter and Snapcaster Mage probably being the best. Finally, there are the enchantments and artifacts. Leyline of Sanctity takes care of a lot of the non-damaging effects, Ghostly Prison is good but offers a workaround, and Ensnaring Bridge needs a little too much dedicated support, in my experience. Turbo Fog isn't big on emptying its hand.
Next up is the Turbo. The traditional draw engines are Howling Mine and Phyrexian Arena, and Stormfist Crusader is a mixture of those two. The Royal Scions and Jace Beleren provide some Planeswalker support. Teferi, Hero of Dominaria does pretty much everything a Turbo Fog deck wants.
For removal, I generally look at all-purpose stuff, like Abrupt Decay, Assassin's Trophy, and Counterspell. The Fog effects provide pseudo-removal against attackers, so it's the utility creatures and other effects that pose problems. All the same, a good Supreme Verdict is always welcome. Engineered Explosives and Nevinyrral's Disk are other mass removal options.
Finally, and most importantly, the win condition. The three main approaches I've seen and/or tried are draw damage, semi-passive mill, and simply attacking with a big creature. For the draw damage, there's cards like Fevered Visions, Runeflare Trap, Fate Unraveler, basically anything that might see use in a Wheels EDH deck. Semi-passive mill comes from symmetrical drawing, while recycling cards through Blessed Respite or Elixir of Immortality. For big creatures, my headliners are Kefnet the Mindful and Sigarda, Host of Herons--5 power, evasive, and hard to kill. Honorable mention goes to Nexus of Fate, just to completely lock out the opponent.
I've poked through a lot of cards and tried a lot of variations, but I'm still not sure I'm not overlooking something. It's very color-heavy, but every color offers a unique option that's hard to replace in at least one category. I'm currently leaning toward or . Of course, it may just be unable to compete at a higher level with the tools it has now. What does Turbo Fog need to get into the competitive boards?
1 month ago
GrimlockVIII Thanks the deck has always been an idea but I finally got around to building something out of that idea. As for the planeswalker, if you play magic puzzle quest it is similar to the Angrath planeswalker and their abilities, except they prefer dishing out punishment for having creatures while this is for doing anything.
I have been looking at possible change ups, although the deck works well so long as we get our lands and a tiny bit of draw, mostly in replacing Sedgemoor Witch as they while their ward ability is thematic, the rest of their ability doesn't feel as much.
Ideas include Torment of Scarabs, Measure of Wickedness (would be tricky as you need to ensure a card went into your graveyard or you will suffer the 8 life loss), Nevinyrral's Disk as a Choice of Damnations backup, Hideous End as more spot removal, or Pooling Venom to reduce their mana options. The Pooling Venom seems the most fitting, but I am concerned about a lack of creatures.
1 month ago
SaccoxHo aggiunto la 61 carta,The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale (unica proxy per ovvi motivi) e l'ho provato con un amico e gira molto bene.Ho aggiunto nel side il blocco Contaminationma non mi pare che funzioni.Giocare i planeswalker andrebbe contro la mia volontà.Nevinyrral's Diskottima rimozione,ma è lenta... qualche consiglio?
1 month ago
2 months ago
It seems to me, from the outside looking in, that you maybe go a lot of turns setting up the Dragonstorm without much in play. If I'm right, then it would be advisable to run more board wipes. My first obvious choices would be Wrath of God, Damnation and Toxic Deluge. However, being that this is a budget deck, I'll suggest Slaughter the Strong, Nevinyrral's Disk, Heliod's Intervention, Blasphemous Act and Deafening Clarion.
2 months ago
I've been playing monoblack in EDH for a while! So, I have some advice I can offer that I hope will help you out!
Land base: 35 should be enough, consider some utility lands: Maze of Ith Cabal Coffers (get it while it is cheap!) maybe some land destruction like Field of Ruin, Wasteland, Ghost Quarter, Strip Mine, etc. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx Temple of the False God Cabal Stronghold Castle Locthwain Rogue's Passage
Equipment to boost your general:
Sword of War and Peace, life gain and protection Sword of Light and Shadow, recursion and protection Sword of Hearth and Home, protection, blink your ETB kill a guy creatures, ramp Sword of Feast and Famine, expensive, but super good Lashwrithe: ouch Vorpal Sword: haha double ouch Blackblade Reforged Sword of Truth and Justice Sword of the Animist
I might try to add a few more win cons in your creature base
Ramp and utility suggestions
Bolas's Citadel: super good but can be rough if you aren't gaining a lot of life Caged Sun: super good ramp and works when your opponents tap Skyclave Relic: better than darksteel ingot Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools: good for draw and blockers Grief: hand control Thought-Knot Seer: hand control Ob Nixilis Reignited: stayed in my chainer deck for a while until Tevesh came along
Grim Tutor and Mastermind's Acquisition over diabolic tutor (depends on you play group if they allow a "wish board," some don't, I run acquisition but may pick up a grim tutor for groups not okay with it)
I might lose some of the instant speed removal for:
Some general removal as monoblack suffers from inability to handle certain types like enchant and artifact:
Tattered Mummy: Not that good, more consistent ways of grinding out damage Skyclave Shade: Bloodghast is better 1x Skeletal Grimace: I get the point, but there are better cards 1x Underworld Dreams: I am iffy on this one, Painful Quandary and Polluted Bonds may be better or good additions to complement it. The entire instant pool save hero's downfall and malicious affliction, there are better killspells Expedition Map: really only useful for setting up tron or land combos Liliana, Waker of the Dead: Liliana Vess works better
The True Meaning of Death and Taxes: this is my chainer death and taxes reanimator list, check it out for suggestions, I have a lot of cards in the maybeboard I have considered and even used at one point that may spark some ideas.