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- Darksteel Forge + Nevinyrral's Disk
- Darksteel Forge + Mycosynth Lattice + Nevinyrral's Disk
- Amaranthine Wall + Nevinyrral's Disk + Trazyn the Infinite
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
- Stack and ability resolutions seem counter-intuitive, can someone please explain...
- Oblivion stone 2nd ability is activated opponent activates nevinyrral's disk .What happens? planeswalkers in play
- When a Bearer of the Heavens dies, does Marchesa and her friends come back?
- Mass Destruction and non indestructible permanents that give indestructibility
- Dramatic Scepter loops and the stack
Nevinyrral's Disk enters the battlefield tapped.
, : Destroy all artifacts, creatures and enchantments.
1 month ago
Oh, Manifold Key doesn't untap it's self, not a combo piece...
Hm, interesting point about the Twig and Amulet... Yeah, I guess it is mostly for the getting an artifact in the graveyard... They do act very similar to just a land, but they have that potential to count for . They're kind of like artifact versions of Blasted Landscape. I think Burnished Hart and Kuldotha Forgemaster are the only other cards included that put artifacts in the graveyard? I don't really want to rely on my artifacts getting destroyed by someone else to get that cost reduction...
Codex Shredder is also on my short list of cards to include. I'm always surprised at how useful this card is. It can mill an opponent's Vampiric Tutor or Sensei's Divining Top away, and can also help fill my graveyard with card types, although it's hit or miss with that, it usually flips a land or artifact, and worst case a cool creature... I think I don't actually have any cards that can get something back from the graveyard right now...
I have considered Karn, the Great Creator, especially because it can be a Planeswalker in the graveyard, but I ultimately don't really want my Planeswalkers in the graveyard though... The +1 ability works with Voltaic Construct to make infinite mana with Basalt Monolith, Mana Vault, Grim Monolith, Thran Dynamo, and potentially Everflowing Chalice, just like Karn, Silver Golem, which I think is p cool. The -2 is kind of technically useless in EDH, as tournament rules actually say you can get a card out of your sideboard, not actually any card you own, and in EDH you don't have a sideboard... Casually, sure, if your playgroup is into getting any card that's cool, Ring of Ma'ruf also does this, but I guess I've just opted not to use that ability... The Null Rod effect is obviously very powerful, but yeah, I guess at least in my meta, I'm not as concerned with other people's artifacts, and ultimately I want to be more fast and aggro, rather than defensive and like staxy with the deck. There's a lot of removal in the deck, to me a surprising amount for colorless, and I guess I can rely on that to get rid of a problem artifact, or whatever someone ramps into if need be. So yeah, I guess despite the Null Rod effect and the Voltaic Construct synergy, it still just seems a little clunky, or something? I also play with way more mana rocks in most of my decks then most people in my meta. If more of my opponents played more mana rocks, that would make it much more relevant, but until they catch on, I guess I think it's just not quite there for me...
I might rather put Karn, Silver Golem in, because it's a good blocker, and can turn multiple of my expensive artifacts into an alpha strike...
Karn, Silver Golem was my first commander for this deck way back in the day, and Voltaic Construct was a key part of the deck. It also included Mycosynth Lattice, to destroy opponent's lands, and Darksteel Forge and Nevinyrral's Disk. These cards were really fun to play, and basically a hard lock when they were together, but without Karn, Silver Golem as the commander, I've steered away from that style I guess because it was just so expensive to pull off, and requires multiple high mana-value cards. I think the combos I have in now are cheaper and have more general synergy with other cards, and at this point, just ramping into Emrakrul as fast as possible is pretty devastating. In my heart though, I still want to include them...
2 months ago
Portal to Phyrexia is probably the best target in the game for daretti's ultimate.
You should definitely run Goblin Welder and Goblin Engineer. They are like a cheaper master transmuter in red. Wurmcoil Engine is one of the best big artifact creatures red has access to. I would consider using it. It's good after board wipes. If you can triple it you'll still have 18 power on an empty board if you wrath.
I would add Nevinyrral's Disk
That signature spell looks like it's gonna be a nightmare for us. Good pick
2 months ago
Udpate 18-07-2023: Trying to lean into more two colour for the theme. also d=trying to lower curve, focus on protecting PWs to actually get ultimates off, as the deck struggles to close games. Idea before was almost that any of the good stuff I find can run away with the game (assemble the legion and narset), but I don't think winning that way will be as satisfying. I think it would be good if I can get a PW out, get them to ult, and if that fails, niv to refresh hand and then give it another go.
- Hostage Taker --> Baleful Strix - cheaper, good blocker, cantrip
- All Suns' Dawn --> Primevals' Glorious Rebirth - more expensive and less flexible but direct to battlefield
- Merciless Eviction --> Kardur, Doomscourge - cheaper, gain rakdos, lose removal, still protects walkers
- Silent Arbiter --> Dueling Grounds - cheaper and two colour, doesn't provide blocker
- Ranger's Path --> Expand the Sphere - can get any lands, should find some in top 6, can proliferate
- Basalt Monolith --> Black Market Tycoon - lose ral and brigthhearth synergy, cheaper, and two colour
- Swords to Plowshares --> Batwing Brume - was mainly in there as a simple staple, gain PW protection, two colour
- Assemble the Legion --> General Ferrous Rokiric - was two colour good stuff, now cheaper, and colour synergy
- Thalia's Lancers --> Jenson Carthalion, Druid Exile - lose tutor for combo, cheaper, two colour, colour synergy
- The Wanderer --> Gold-Forged Thopteryx - lose removal and protection, cheaper, two colour, a little protection
- Nevinyrral's Disk --> Pernicious Deed - more expensive, but can do in one turn, and two colour
- Narset, Enlightened Master -> Grateful Apparition - was good stuff, cheaper, PW synergy
- Boros Signet --> Staff of Compleation - more expensive, more flexible, PW synergy
- Rampant Growth --> Birds of Paradise - fragile but cheaper
- Skyshroud Claim --> Radha, Hearth of Keld - worse ramp, but gain gruul and two colour
- Azorius Signet --> Coiling Oracle - blocker, two colour, worse ramp
6 months ago
Fiend Artisan is green
I think Sidisi, Undead Vizier is awful unless you use a lot of reanimate effects, it's just so expensive to tutor. Geth, Lord of the Vault is crazy strong, but he's a totally different deck most of the time. I'd dump Liliana's Steward too. You and one other player go down a card, putting the rest of the table ahead of you by one card, but they also get to choose, so you're never going to get the card you want out of their hand.
Hobbling Zombie and other cards like it, like Putrid Goblin are excellent at keeping attacks away from you while you build up your board. and the pseudo revival effects let you abuse a lot of other zombie mechanics. Butcher Ghoul, and Geralf's Messenger or Doomed Dissenter are ok too. i wouldnt use Sightless Ghoul though. They are all better than Reassembling Skeleton though. Keep Relentless Dead. Im not sure if they make the cut, but they arent scary, but that means they are good at keeping a target off your back til youre readyfor one.
Magus of the Bridge is great for a non-zombie. Probably use it over Tainted Adversary, i feel like that one just costs way too much before its good. Dreadhorde Invasion is incredibly good, as is Mikaeus, the Unhallowed. i'd put those in for sure.Tormod, the Desecrator is still really good. Zombie Trailblazer is devastating to the person sitting to your left in particular or anyone playing five colors/ not black. When you REALLY need someone to not cast a spell. make all their lands swamps during the upkeep. almost every board wipe is a sorcery.
I think you might want to dump Thought Vessel for Mind Stone or even Blood Pet. In many cases discarding is beneficial to zombies. If you want to keep infinite hand size, Zombie Infestation and discard at will cards are pretty helpful.
I think Noxious Ghoul is the single best zombie card in the game, in this deck it basically says, tap your commander, wipe everyone else's boards. Use it.
Sutured Ghoul is runner up. If you include it and other high power zombies like Rotting Regisaur you can put him out as a 20+/xx easily, and then get 2/2s. HE doesnt play nice with mass reanimate, but he's an alternate win condition on his own. also its a great tool since youre probably gonna sac the dino and Phyrexian Soulgorger pretty quickly. If you sacrifice him on the end step before your turn i think you will almost always have a game ending horde.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel is utterly stupid. The absolute best reanimate target you could hope for. and since your card draw is gonna cost a ton of life, hes always going to be valuable. Whip of Erebos is probably the only other reasonable lifegain choice.That one makes aggressive attacking suddenly super safe
Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia is really cheap at making zombies if you dont have any other sources of decayed zombs. they cant block, but you get so many death triggers
Graveborn Muse is great card draw.
I think Gempalm Polluter is fantastic. its card draw, puts a big zombie into your graveyard, and hurts a player if things are going well.
Board wipes will shut you down as you have things right now. Crowded Crypt and Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, that way, even if there's a board wipe you still have a whole army of zombs to multiply even after everything is dead. Rise of the Dread Marn is another fantastic option that you can abuse if you run things like Carrion Feeder too. Run Carrion Feeder, period. It lets you loop gravecrawler and saves yourself from control magic and exile spells.
Consider Toxic Deluge and STRONGLY CONSIDER Nevinyrral's Disk. Single target removal like tragic slip is ok because you can choose when things die, but other cards like Malicious Affliction are going to miss a lot of key targets. And you absolutely need to have a way to clear artifacts and especially enchantments.
Dark Salvation is pretty cool. not sure if it is good enough, but i'd use it rather than some of your spot removal.
Liliana, Dreadhorde General is really absurdly strong if you can get it out, and even if it dies the next turn you can draw a bunch off of it. Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip you already know is great.
I'll see what you make and see if i find anything else. later
6 months ago
NV_1980 thanks for you input!
In the draw department, I shy away from sorcery speed draws like Introduction to Prophecy because I'd like to have as much open mana as I can to allow interactions when it's not my turn. Also, I'd rather ramp than play an expensive drop like Mind's Eye and pay additional ~3 during each opponent's turn. 2-drop draw engines like Mazemind Tome and Endless Atlas would be the best for this.
As for the Urza's Incubator, it's true that I've been eyeing this for a while. This can cheat Ulamog way earlier than I already could (imagine I also have Inspiring Statuary on the field-- oh boy, that's free 3!). But just for more flexibility, I'm leaning towards Cloud Key. And if I would spend 20 bucks on an Urza's Incubator, I guess it'll be for a Sensei's Divining Top instead.
6 months ago
Would definitely recommend Mind's Eye for some additional draw opportunity. Maybe Introduction to Prophecy as well. I'm also a big fan of Ugin, the Ineffable in mono-colorless because he makes everything cheaper. Urza's Incubator makes sense as well in that regard, though it's a more expensive card and has more limited use. Last, but not least, I would really consider Nevinyrral's Disk (if you haven't already), because it's such a powerful reset button and mono-colorless is great at recovery from wipes because of its speed.
8 months ago
This looks nice but I think you could add some more (cheap-to-cast) draw-resources to increase the speed of your deck somewhat. I would consider Ponder, Preordain, Mystic Remora, Faithless Looting, Night's Whisper, Sign in Blood, Read the Bones. Please note that aside from Chaos Warp, the deck has nothing to deal with opposing enchantments. Therefore I'd really consider adding Feed the Swarm. Maybe also a Blast Zone and/or Nevinyrral's Disk, just in case.
9 months ago
The reason I ask about your meta('s power level) is to determine what level of power you want this deck to be. For example, Spine of Ish is a good card for a more casual meta in a black deck, as 7 mana is okay to remove an artifact or enchantment (Ex: Rest in Peace) that could disrupt your plans. Other times, black decks don't mind utilizing a card like Nevinyrral's Disk because even though it comes in tapped and is telegraphed, it costs 3 less mana that Spine and hits everything rather than just one target, albeit, at the cost of your boardstate (excluding your commander). As such, I was going to potentially recommend Nev disk. I understand the synergy with your commander, but its impactful isnt enough to be warranted IMO. If you find it works for you, then all the more power to you!
In my mono black deck, one wincon is Necropotence + Profane Transfusion. I saw the leechridden swamp but wasn't good for my deck, it's great for you. Profane does what you want, even though it's 9 mana, you seem to be okay with higher costed cards. This is on theme with your deck.
Given another wincon of your deck is Tree + "Trisk," you need a way to recur either, particularly Trisk. Black has a variety of creature recursion but little non-creature. Cards to consider are .....
Deliver Unto Evil - Politics. While most people hate giving an opponent a choice, this usually plays out something like.... A) Draw B) Tutor C) Recursion D) Wincon. Either way, you get benefit.
Ill-Gotten Gains - Not an entirely serious suggestion, but it works nevertheless.
My apologies, yes, sever the bloodline is 4 mana. I also asked about the meta because I didn't realize token decks were prevalent enough for you to warrant it's inclusion. For 4 mana, a lot of black decks just use boardwipes like Toxic Deluge. This is more true for your deck because A) Its on theme with lifeloss and can be used to set up repay in kind/profane transfusion B) Your PW commander will still be alive. Alternatively, black decks can utilize Virulent Plague as a permanent anti-token measure along with Bloodline Culling, which acts as instant speed removal and is flexible to kill most midrange creatures or destroy most tokens. I understand Sever's appeal, if it works for you, keep it. Most higher power black decks opt for cheaper (usually instant) removal in order to interact with opponents during their turn to disrupt their plans. That being said, if Sever works for you, I respect your decision even though I disagree with it, you know your meta best. I can only imagine the green player's face as all of their plant tokens with +1 counters from Avenger of Zendikar are suddenly exiled, must be a pretty good feeling. Not to mention they can't bring their creature back which is helpful against graveyard based decks. Flashback is nice as well.
Are you looking for cuts for your maybeboard? Are you okay with infinite combos?
Regarding Golden Throne, it can be helpful. I say test it out. But personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable telegraphing my only card to save myself. Alternatively, Stunning Reversal can be swapped in should you find your opponents holding removal for your throne too often as it is telegraphed.