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- Stack and ability resolutions seem counter-intuitive, can someone please explain...
- Oblivion stone 2nd ability is activated opponent activates nevinyrral's disk .What happens? planeswalkers in play
- When a Bearer of the Heavens dies, does Marchesa and her friends come back?
- Mass Destruction and non indestructible permanents that give indestructibility
- Dramatic Scepter loops and the stack
Nevinyrral's Disk enters the battlefield tapped.
, : Destroy all artifacts, creatures, and enchantments.
Nevinyrral's Disk Discussion
3 days ago
Ancient Tomb > Temple of False
Imperial Recruiter - To tutor for Kiki or whatever
Feldon of the Third Path - Reuse and abuse ETBS
3 weeks ago
Cabal Coffers for ramp
Imp's Mischief is "counters" counterspells, redirects removal and some extra turn cards. More importantly, no one expects it from black.
I got some ideas for cuts if you're interested, lmk.
pmansmoney on jvp
3 weeks ago
Oh fack I didn't see q2.
I'm working with the limited tools blue and colorless has, so bounce spells ( AEtherize , AEtherspouts , and soon to be Cyclonic Rift ), wrath type things ( Nevinyrral's Disk ), tempo tappy things ( Cryptic Command ), and like steel yo gurl things Vedalken Shackles . I did just realize I forgot to put in a card lol Blatant Thievery is probs sweet in here.
3 weeks ago
Alright! Thanks for the suggestions. I will definitely be considering these. However, I do have some counterpoints:
This deck doesn't have too much card draw, so having a high land count aids in making sure I hit each land for the turn. If I have any excess, I can just discard them to my effects. I'd love to have Urborg in here, but I haven't been able to get ahold of one. I do intend to add Ransack the Lab over a land, as well.
This deck always just loses to Rest in Peace , or effects of the sort, so Nevinyrral's Disk is fantastic. Same with Ratchet Bomb ; that has efficacy to it. Ugin and Karn are a bit out of budget, however.
Ill-Gotten Gains exists for the political aspect. If I return a Mindslicer , I can kind of control what my opponents do with the cards or they just risk losing them entirely. But I do see your point. Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed would be great, but that's over one-hundred dollars right now. Necromancy is probably my best bet.
Thank you very much!
3 weeks ago
Cut Swamp to go to 38 lands, 39 is too much
Cut swamp for Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - Upgrade and goes with coffers and non-swamps
Cut swamp for Thespian's Stage - Copy coffers or any utility land like cradle, strip mine, etc...
How are you dealing with artifacts and enchantments? One Rest in Peace and you lose unless you make them proactively discard it which isn't always possible. Some suggestions of budget and nonbudget include....
Ill-Gotten Gains seems like it can backfire a large portion of the time. What is the purpose of it, to put creatures in yards or general recursion? If you're looking for recursion of black cards, Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed can do the trick. General recursion can be down with Yawgmoth's Will . Artifact/Creature recursion can be done with Beacon of Unrest (not suggesting beacon, but just an idea to note).
3 weeks ago
IMO, the real reason I like Kukusho is for the lifegain. Getting 15 life allows you to get that much more card advantage. With ALL the ramp black has and all the card draw your commander provides, you should be able to win very easily. If your group knows you're going to cast repay in kind due to all your lifeloss, I wouldn't be surprised if it got countered or if they killed you prior to you being able to do so. Idk about your meta and the lvl of interaction but that's worth noting.
Again, Sol Ring , why isn't it in the deck?
You're also EXTREMELY vulnerable to artifacts and enchantments as you haven't slotted any removal for them. Some budget and non-budget options include....
3 weeks ago
Just a note on Laboratory Maniac , you should already have your library drawn to 2 or less cards by the time you try to cast him. This means that in an optimal build you will have Force of Will , Pact of Negation , Swan Song , Mana Drain , Flusterstorm , and Delay at the very least in your hand. You should be able to force through Labman and have the cantrips to draw from an empty library in response to any responses, especially since you have infinite mana by this point. If you don't want to run Labman that is your choice to make, but as a win condition he is not unreliable or risky. I'll go ahead and assume that Jace, Wielder of Mysteries is also excluded as it is the same wincon as Labman.
Since the deck makes infinite mana as its primary function, Walking Ballista is an effective wincon.
1 month ago
Hey! I built a budget Black Rose deck and, you're right, it is hard to win! The throne mechanic can be really restrictive. I think it's important to remember Marchesa wants to be aggro. Flayer of the Hatebound is the closest you can get to combo (with Marchesa, burning people for 9 at each end step). So make an enemy... try to kill someone ASAP. Dethrone other players only if you have a way to nuke your life, on-demand +1/+1 counters, or board that can 1-2-shot someone.
You need more creatures. At least 28.
If you want to win consistently, I'd play more stax pieces like Sadistic Hypnotist , Oona's Blackguard , Noxious Toad , etc. Maybe even Specter tribal with the likes of Sedraxis Specter . You really want to slow your opponents down and secure your board; like how Boros aggro needs Armageddon .
Purphoros, God of the Forge wins games.
I would consider cutting...
Altar of Dementia ... any other engine on a stick is better.
I might add...
Plaguecrafter ... all-star.
Shifting Shadow ... great engine in Marchesa.
Breath of Fury ... extra combats will win.
Puppeteer Clique ... fun theft.
Grave Titan ... you might just need some pricey 1-card houses.
Curse of Stalked Prey ... ignore the Throne.
Sidisi, Undead Vizier ... tutor.
Fleshwrither ... maybe?
Whip of Erebos ... to combo with "Pay life:" ...or some other life gain.
Nevinyrral's Disk occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.08%