Seaside Citadel

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Seaside Citadel

Land

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multimedia on Budget Slivers

3 weeks ago

Hey, nice version so far for well under $100.

40 lands is a lot, consider cutting some for some more low mana cost ramp for five colors to help gameplay?

Manaweft Sliver is the other staple mana dork Sliver. Sol Ring is staple budget mana rock in Commander. On a low budget and playing five colors Commander's Sphere is fine.

Because playing five colors then Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse are better than the New Capenna fetches. Wilds or Expanse can get any type basic land not just one of three types.

Unclaimed Territory is a helpful land when playing so many different colored Slivers and it enters the battlefield untapped.

Some of the Pain lands got reprinted in the newest set Dominaria United and those lands are down to $2 or less each right now. Pain lands enter the battlefield untapped to make colorless or colored mana to speed up gameplay. By replacing some basic lands with more dual lands that can enter the battlefield untapped that can make the color of the basic land it replaced or another color this can improve gameplay as well as color fixing.

The Tango lands are other budget lands that care about basic lands. These lands are good with Farseek, land ramp that can better color fix.


After these land changes, example upgraded budget 36 land five color manabase (20 G, 17 W, 17 R, 15 U, 14 B):

This advice was just about improving the manabase and ramp, if you're interested I offer more advice on other areas. Would you like more advice?

Good luck with your deck.

AstroAA on Should I Keep Luminarch Ascension …

3 months ago

Luminarch Ascension is just slow. I used to run it in my Sythis, Harvest's Hand enchantress prison deck as a backup method to get beaters out, and most of the time I'd play it and it'd just sit there as I'd use my mana for other things. It's not worth it most of the time.

I do not know why you aren't already running Esper Sentinel. In your deck you're running a bunch of anthems, and Esper Sentinel can easily draw you a ridiculous amount of cards rather quickly if his tax gets up to 4~5 mana. He's easily one of the best white cards in Magic, and your deck seems likely to support him. Plus he's only one mana, and you have an absolutely ridiculous CMC of 3.87 with only seven mana rocks - two of which are 4+ CMC.

My advice? Fuck Smothering Tithe. I personally think the card is overrated and is one of the most "kill on sight" cards in Magic. A quarter of the time you play it and it's countered. Another quarter of the time you play it and it gets blown up immediately. Another quarter of the time you play it and it does nothing. The last quarter of the time it does something. If you wanted to play some cheaper "kill on sight" cards to bait out counter magic and kill spells, Food Chain, Survival of the Fittest, and even something like Grafdigger's Cage against certain decks. But, take what I say here with a grain of salt - I just don't like Smothering Tithe, and I think the CMC of it won't help you that much since you don't run a lot of ramp. I'd honestly rather run Yasharn, Implacable Earth over Smothering Tithe in your deck right now.

Now, you asked for feedback and suggestions, so here are my main suggestions. I'm not sure your budget, but considering you're asking us to decide between two $20~$30 cards, I'll assume it's higher than the average Magic player's. Here is a basic list of things you can do to improve your deck:

  • Go through your deck and individually look at every card in it. Think to yourself "How often do I play this card? Does this card make an impact whenever I play it? Is it just immediately answered? How does this fit into my game plan?" etc. Cut cards that you think aren't up to par or properly fit into your deck.
  • Your deck seems to lack a proper direction. You say you want to pillowfort and focus on building up an army. Cards like Windborn Muse and Ghostly Prison can help you prevent people from swinging at you. If you wanted to prevent people from swinging at all, Crawlspace and Dueling Grounds can work, and you can just pop them with a Nature's Claim or something before you want to start attacking. If you wanted to focus more on the army aspect, you could go with stuff like Avenger of Zendikar, Rhys the Redeemed, or Tendershoot Dryad.
  • Lower your Converted Mana Cost. You currently have a CMC of 3.87, which is rather high. In addition, you are only running seven pieces of ramp - all mana rocks - and two of them are four or more CMC, which does not help you much. Cut cards that don't do much and replace them with either cheaper mana rocks or mana dorks. A few that I immediately see that I would cut are cards like Treva, the Renewer, Skyward Eye Prophets, Empyrial Archangel, and Archon of the Triumvirate. Cards you should add are like Avacyn's Pilgrim, Birds of Paradise, Sylvan Caryatid, and Noble Hierarch. This will lower your CMC and provide additional mana ramp.
  • Lands. You are currently running 38 lands, which is definitely on the high end. However, I think this is a product of having a CMC of 3.87. I think should you end up reducing your CMC to around 2.75 to 3.00 while adding in at least ~7 sources of mana acceleration you can go down to 32~33 lands, which is much more reasonable. However, I also want to talk about your land choices. You aren't running any fetches and many of your lands have a chance to enter tapped. I would look at adding in more fetches such as Prismatic Vista, Windswept Heath, Misty Rainforest, and Flooded Strand at least. In addition, I'd also look at lands such as City of Brass, Mystic Confluence, and the Battlebond lands such as Bountiful Promenade, Rejuvenating Springs, and Sea of Clouds should you reliably play with 3+ people pods. Cut cards like Seaside Citadel and the check lands, as they're kind of feelsbad turn one plays.
  • Removal. You aren't running much removal to deal with threats. Cheap removal such as Nature's Claim, Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Return to Nature, and On Thin Ice are all super good in EDH. I would definitely look at improving your removal suite outside of 3+ mana counterspells. Also, look at cheaper counterspells. Cards like Mana Drain would be super good here as it provides you mana acceleration while stopping your opponents.

There is more I would like to add, such as talking more about card advantage, but I've spent damn near close to an hour typing this so I'm gonna call it here. Now, take what I've said with a grain of salt. I'm a high-powered player; I like to optimize my decks, and with optimization comes homogenization. I.e; your decks become less unique. You've got a pretty unique deck here, and if you like it then you like it. Ultimately it's up to you on making that call of whether or not you want to optimize and change everything. If you need more help, feel free to ask. Good luck, and sorry for the wall of text.

DemonDragonJ on Don't Blink, or You'll Miss It!

3 months ago

I have replaced Seaside Citadel with Spara's Headquarters, since the latter card can be found with Wood Elves.

legendofa on How do you, personally, balance …

4 months ago

Pip percentages all the way. I start off with "5-color basics" in play testing; I use tokens or off-color lands or other generic cards to fill land slots and pretend they enter untapped and tap for any color, no downside. So play testing with perfect mana. All nonland ramp and fixing should be in place at this point. Lands are the last thing I work on.

Once I get the main deck in a good spot and start looking at color balancing, I count the total pips and pips of each color, and divide them proportionally into basic lands, including hybrids as full pips. Let's say I'm putting together a EDH deck and have landed on 38 land slots. I count the green pips and get 50, blue pips are at 66, and white pips are at 45, for a total of 161 pips. I want at least 50/161 of my mana base to be green, 66/161 to be blue, and 45/161 to be white. That's 31% green, 41% blue, and 28% white.

The next step is to put that into the 38 land slots. I start with basic lands to ensure the balance. Using the percentage above, that's 12 Forests, 16 Islands, and 11 Plains, for a total of 39 lands. Cut one from the highest (rounding error), dropping Islands to 15. Next, check if any colors are overrepresented at mana value 1-2, and take 1-2 from the highest and give it to that color. In this example, let's say I loaded up on low MV green cards for ramp, so cut one more Island for a Forest. Final basic land totals are 13 Forest, 14 Island, and 11 Plains.

Finally, because I want multicolor lands in there, I switch basics out for nonbasics, keeping the colors as proportional as possible. So I'll take out a Forest and and Island for a Breeding Pool and Yavimaya Coast, a Forest and a Plains for Bountiful Promenade and Overgrown Farmland, a Plains and an Island for Port Town and Nimbus Maze, one of each for Seaside Citadel, Treva's Ruins, and Spara's Headquarters, and so on. Fetchlands are treated as lands that can add mana of the colors it searches for, and single-color lands like Eiganjo Castle are switched out one for one with their basic lands.

I always try to keep enough basic lands to cast any spell in the deck off basic lands alone. If I have cards that cost and in the deck, I will keep at least five basic lands. At least two of those will be Islands, and at least one will be a Forest and a Plains each. You never know when a Back to Basics or Ruination will come by to mess up your day.

Finally, colorless lands. I add these on a case by case basis, usually skimming from the color I have the most sources for.

So it's a process, but I've found it to be very reliable in the long run.

multimedia on No don’t kill my Slivers.

11 months ago

Hey, well done on a budget while having Overlord, First, Legion and Hivelord. The area of your deck that needs the most improvements is the manabase and lands are my first budget suggestions to consider.

Exotic Orchard, Unclaimed Territory and Path of Ancestry are three more Rainbow lands. The five Battle lands have good interaction with lots of basic lands: Canopy Vista, Cinder Glade, Sunken Hollow, Prairie Stream and Smoldering Marsh. You're better off playing more Tri lands than the Thriving lands: Jungle Shrine, Savage Lands, Seaside Citadel, Crumbling Necropolis, Opulent Palace, etc.

A Tri land gives you three choices of colors, not two, which is better when playing five colors. Being able to choose the second color with a Thriving land is nice, but with five colors not as good as having three choices. If you have the Pathways then that's good, but if not they're too expensive price for lands for five colors since you can only choose one color of mana with them. The Battle lands could replace them.


Cloudshredder Sliver is a two drop Sliver that gives flying and haste, it's one of the best Slivers. Shifting Sliver makes all Sliver unblockable unless an opponent controls some Slivers. Quick Sliver lets you cast Slivers at instant speed during your opponents turns or at any point of the game. Flash is excellent with The First Sliver getting to cascade at instant speed is powerful because the card you cast from cascade doesn't have timing restrictions meaning you can cast any card.

Crypt Sliver can protect Slivers from most board wipes, from removal that destroys, from dying in combat from damage and interacts well with vigilance from Sentinel Sliver. Hibernation Sliver can protect from all board wipes, other removal most importantly exile for the cost of 2 life each Sliver.

Hibernation interacts well with The First Sliver by bouncing it as well as other Slivers to cast again and cascade again. Dormant Sliver has nice interaction with Hibernation because Dormant can draw a ton of cards and when you want to attack with Slivers bounce Dormant with Hibernation.

Diffusion Sliver helps to protect Slivers from targeted removal, making an opponent have to pay two more mana to target a Sliver. Striking Sliver is another one drop Sliver and first strike is nice to have when attacking.

Amoeboid Changeling is a Sliver because Changelings are all creature types even when in your hand, library or graveyard. Amoebiod has really good interaction with Sliver Overlord because Overlord can gain control of a Sliver. Amoeboid can make any opponent's creature who you can target a Sliver and then Overlord can gain control of that creature permanently. This is especially powerful to gain control of opponents Commanders. These two combine to gain control of all your opponents creatures over a course of many turns. Because Amoeboid is a Silver while in your library then Overlord can tutor for it.

If interested I offer more advice including cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.

multimedia on Tiamat and Her Dragons

1 year ago

Hey, for a first Commander deck well done. You have some interesting card choices and nice Ur-Dragon, Gnawbone, Utvara and Sarkhan.

An area to consider improving on is repeatable draw. When you can get draw from simply having a Dragon ETB then this can help gameplay. Some budget repeatable draw sources to consider adding:

Most of these cards give you more than one effect: Temur Ascendancy is also haste enabler, Dragon's Hoard and Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner is also ramp, Court of Bounty can also be cheat a Dragon from your hand onto the battlefield as well as land ramp, Garruk's Uprising also gives all creatures you control trample to break through an opponent's annoying flying Spirit or Angel tokens.

You have Dragon Arch and Quicksilver Amulet which are nice effects to cheat Dragons onto the battlefield, but Court of Bounty is a step above these because it provides other effects. It can be repeatable draw with monarch or lets you play a land from your hand at your upkeep. The monarch is you draw a card at your end step, but only one player in the game can be the monarch. Any player who does combat damage to you or plays a card that makes them the monarch then becomes the monarch and you lose the monarch. You can get it back though and flying Dragons help a lot at attacking as well as blocking for an opponent not to be able to do combat damage to you.


Hellkite Charger is a combo with Old Gnawbone for infinite attacks with Dragons, but if you're playing casual then you might want to avoid a combo like this. I would include it as a win condition with Dragons. There's some budget creature/Dragon upgrades to consider:


You have the three staple budget Rainbow lands already: Tower, Orchard and Ancestry which is great, but you could improve the manabase other ways. If you have a low budget for lands then my advice is replace lands that always ETB tapped with a Tri land. A Tri land such as Jungle Shrine also always ETB tapped, but the color fixing it provides, three colors, is worth it. A land such as Swiftwater Cliffs isn't worth it instead consider Frontier Bivouac?

Archway Commons, Gateway Plaza and other lands like this are not good even though they can potentially make one of five colors. You can't play one of them unless you control an untapped land to pay 1 mana and that's a big requirement just be able to play a land.

Some budget land changes to consider:

If interested I offer more advice including cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.

multimedia on jodah archmage eternal

1 year ago

Hey, nice list of cards on a budget. You have several good cards, but also many stinkers.

Do you really play this deck? Or it is a deck you made here for fun? I ask because I don't see how this deck can win a game or consistently function well enough in a real game of multiplayer Commander. If Jodah gets disrupted you're done because your deck is relying way too much on Jodah. Problem is Jodah will be an instant target for removal when he's on the battlefield as your opponents can't let him stick around letting you take over the game. You want your deck to be able to function in gameplay without Jodah.

There's a basic deck structure you can use for a causal Commander deck that's a starting point for building a deck.

This structure doesn't cover everything, just the basics to help to make a functioning deck. For example with Jodah you will want to dedicate quite a few card spots for protection such as Boros Charm and Swiftfoot Boots for him and the big stuff you cheat onto the battlefield. Some areas such as number of lands, lands used in the manabase and ramp become much more important than others. Especially when playing five colors, needing one of each color to cast spells with Jodah and having many high mana cost cards you want to cast.


You have Command Tower which is good, one of the best lands in Commander. When playing five colors then more color fixing from lands in the manabase and ramp sources that can make any color of mana are areas to focus more on and allocate more funds to make gameplay better with or without Jodah.

For lands on a budget if basic lands are the lands you count on most then include ramp and other lands that have interaction with basic lands.

Glade and the four others are called Tango lands and they care about you controlling two or more basic lands for them to ETB untapped. Farseek can search for any one Tango land and put it onto the battlefield tapped.

You have Jungle Shrine which is good, it's called a Tri land and on a budget these lands are some of better lands you can play for color fixing. Consider more Tri lands?

I can continue with more advice in another comment. Would you like me to continue?

Good luck with your deck.

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