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|Commander 2015 (C15)||Common|
|Modern Masters (MMA)||Common|
|Duel Decks: Elspeth vs. Tezzeret (DDF)||Common|
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Return target nonland permanent and all other permanents with the same name as that permanent to their owners' hands.
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Echoing Truth Discussion
1 day ago
The mill from Thought Scour doesn't enable anything atm so Peek could be a decent replacement. You probably aren't going to overload Cyclonic Rift so Echoing Truth , Blink of an Eye , Perilous Voyage etc could be good here. Some amount of Ionize and Spell Pierce could be useful and Shivan Reef and Wandering Fumarole are probably the cheapest dual lands you could play.
5 days ago
However, I'm not going to trade it down, so if you want to make a trade, I would only trade for your Doubling Season as a 1 to 1.
Either way, I'm still interested in the cards you listed, and I have some other wants from your binder:
- Elspeth, Sun's Champion (THS)
- Grafdigger's Cage
- Torpor Orb
- Welding Jar
- Etched Champion x2
- Wipe Away
- Sai, Master Thopterist
- Echoing Truth
- Groundswell x3
- Cranial Plating x2
- Galvanic Blast x2
- Hibernation x2
- Dragon's Claw x2
- Trinket Mage
- Patrician's Scorn
- Think Twice
Total Price: $40.82
I'd be interested in trading those for these cards out of what you listed:
Spellseeker , Gamble , Talisman of Hierarchy , Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion , Cruel Celebrant , Ugin, the Ineffable , Emmara, Soul of the Accord , Immolation Shaman , Bolas's Citadel , Flux Channeler , Evolution Sage , Finale of Revelation , Karn's Bastion , Inspiring Vantage , and Rugged Prairie . (Total: $39.79)
Also, I just like to say that I'm sorry for falling though on that trade we'd worked out like 6 months ago. I believe it was for my Leyline of the Void . I wasn't on this site for a while, and it kinda slipped my mind. Neither of us had sent anything at that point, so it's not a big deal, but I remembered it when I saw your username and thought I should mention it.
1 week ago
To be fair, this isn't really what I had in mind for a snow deck. This is more like what SynergyBuild had in mind. Personally, I don't see the upside to adhering strictly to snow cards. Abominable Treefolk strikes me as a bad magic card. Icehide Golem isn't very compelling - and certainly clashes with the likes of Ice-Fang Coatl . A 1 mana 2/2 is usually an aggro card, but Coatl is most certainly a midrange card. And plenty of decks can deal with the Marit Lage token. Humans has Reflector Mage or Deputy of Detention . UW has plenty of removal for it. Tron can exile it with ease. Even Phoenix plays a fun-of Echoing Truth these days. And those are the top 4 decks. Sure, the next few decks like Dredge, Titan, and Burn can't deal with it, but then again I think all of those decks can kill you before you get the token.
In what way are any of the snow creatures besides Coatl better than Tarmogoyf ? I don't mean to be harsh, but I just don't see the payoff cards. Scrying Sheets is real, but Skred demonstrates that the card is fully playable without maxing the number of snow permanents.
2 weeks ago
Also other blue cards I like Cyclonic Rift and I love Echoing Truth it is great for a token sweeper and if you can pair it with Polymorphist's Jest you return all their creatures to hand. Also Swan Song is a nice spell and I would really suggest Isochron Scepter because you can cast counterspell over and over again. Underrated fun Eyes Everywhere trade and then play a return to hand card on it and you get it back and you get a scry but it is quite funny when you pull it off.
3 weeks ago
Good cheap killspells I can recommend would be Tyrant's Scorn , Victim of Night , and Languish . Languish is just a poor-mans Damnation, but i find some kind if board wipe pretty useful, and most of the time this should buy you and extra 2-3 turns. Victim of Night is strong, but the double-black can be pretty restricting, so Tyrant's Scorn might be a better option (or a mix of them both).
4 weeks ago
Yeah, if your meta is running a large number of those cards, then it is probably running a few Annul . I normally don’t see either of them in my playgroup, though I have to run Echoing Truth to deal with Leyline of Sanctity . I also sideboard Inquisition of Kozilek (or Duress ) to catch some of the nasties like the cards you’ve mentioned, before they happen.
So yeah, keep Annul if you get value from it. Sideboards are entirely meta-dependant
1 month ago
I like your list quite a bit, one thing that I do have to suggest is to up Gush , from my playtesting, I found 3 Gush and 2 Foil to be the perfect number to run. Many games turned around for me the moment I drew Gush, and it allowed for some really crazy turns.
One card that has overperformed for me is Echoing Truth over Snap. I'm currently running 2, but for the next tournament I'm going to be running 3, and this is mainly for my local metagame, as some of the matches I came against were elves, mono white wheenies, and blue mill with Persistent Petioners. In all these matchups it often removed lots of tokens, or bounced 2 or 3 creatures at a time. It was even helpful against boggles, as it allowed me to bounce enchantments in multiples.
1 month ago
I would argue the lands are the most crucial as at the end of the day you do need to make your colors for this deck very effectively, and you need the duals for helping your Pentad Prism math. With your remaining starting budget I would get all your scry lands, the artifacts (or else you will never win quick enough without them), Simian Spirit Guide , and the actual wincons. Anything left over after that should go to cantrips and Spoils of the Vault , unless of course it is enough to buy a few of the other lands. As for the 2 remaining Pact of Negation , for the time being you can get away with running 1 Echoing Truth and 1 Desperate Ritual in those spots, that should save you some money until you can upgrade them and if control isn't a problem where you live this should be decent for now. You can also throw a Solemnity into the deck for the time being seeing how your ability to stall will be hampered by your lands.
Keep me updated on your progress I am always willing to help out as well!
P.S. Lotus Bloom not petal (I wish) make sure you don't accidentally buy the wrong card ;)
Echoing Truth occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%
All decks: 0.04%
All decks: 0.04%