Temple of Plenty
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Freeform Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Pre-release Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Standard Legal
Standard Brawl Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Rules Q&A

Temple of Plenty

Land

This enters tapped.

When this enters, scry 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put that card on the bottom of your library.)

: Add or .

wallisface on Looking for payoff cards for …

5 months ago

keizerbuns looking at your list, I'm skeptical it can keep up at a modern power level:

  • Your deck has a LOT of 1-ofs, which is going to make it fairly inconsistent. They all appear to be legendries, so I will say that just because a card is legendary doesn't mean you only run one copy of it - if the card is crucial to your plan then you need to run enough copies to ensure you have good odds of drawing one (so, usually a playset). In any case, i would suggest not running anywhere near this many 1-ofs, especially as a first-draft of a deck that has no reliable way to fetch-up specific cards.

  • Your mana curve seems sloooow. This becomes specifically a bigger issue with your interaction, that all costs quite-high mana and either requires some prerequisites to be any good (Collision Course), or costs a big-chunk of mana but can't remove big threats (Unidentified Hovership, Razorgrass Ambush  Flip). I really think your deck either needs to be a LOT faster, or have a LOT more density of interaction, with this extra interaction not requiring as many hoops to jump through to be good.

  • You have no reliable way to ever get Parhelion II into play. The only card I see that is helpful towards this here is Kona, Rescue Beastie, but that is itself 4 mana (so very slow), and you're only running as a 1-of (so incredibly unreliable).

  • Your mana base looks too cute and messy. I would suggest simplifying it for better options and more reliable usefulness. Specifically I don't see Gavony Township, The Shire or Minas Tirith ever being anything except awkward and unhelpful. Temple of Plenty entering tapped is absolutely terrible. Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers and Eiganjo Castle are cute, but you're almost never going to use their abilities, and so basic lands are probably better to avoid auto-losing to Blood Moon effects. The deck really, really wants a playset of both Windswept Heath and a few Temple Garden to keep your mana consistent.

  • 14 vehicles is a LOT. But i'm more worried that most of them don't really do much... they all feel like bad-creatures that require a bunch of setup to actually do creature-things. I would suggest running less vehicles, but making those vehicles you do run feel properly impactive, so that they can actually win you the game.

  • The sideboard needs a LOT of work - it's not really giving you anything helpful at the moment.

  • I don't see how this deck ever competes against any combo deck... you have no way to disrupt these decks and are not nearly fast-enough to race them. Decks like Belcher, Storm, Goryo's, Tron, Prime Titan, Neobrand and Broodscale will all just enact their plans and not even glance at what your board-state is doing. Other fast-aggro decks like Boros Energy, Zoo, Affinity, and Prowess will basically do the same. I'd advise looking at the modern meta decks and working out what your plan is against each of these - your brew needs to have a decent chance of winning against at least half the top decks to feel relevant.

Overall the deck feels too unfocused, and lacking both speed and interaction. I would suggest trying to lower the mana curve, get in some good interactive pieces, and adding a bunch of much-needed focus to the deck in-terms of only keeping cards that help achieve your set goal.

A good place to start might be to check out an established list. In Pioneer both Azban Greasefang and Mardu Greasefang are established vehicle decks. Obviously Pioneer is a much weaker format than modern, but this should give you a good idea of what a decent vehicle deck looks like, and might help inspire your own brew (also, a lot of people onine have tried making modern-greasfang lists, so the deck seems to have a few gimmicky-paths towards being somewhat modern-viable)

LordSnow on Finneas Commander

6 months ago

I would think about adding a few lands, usually Commander Decks will sit between 37-39. Your average mana cost is low, so 35 lands isn't too bad, but I think you should drop some of the lower power/lower cost cards and add a couple more synergy pieces or heavy hitters to close out the games. And try to find more useful lands with abilities, they really do some work in Commander.

Some cards you might want to think about replacing:

Suggestions:

Agree with:

BadBrains on rienne

9 months ago

for lands:

Temple of Abandon

Temple of Triumph

Temple of Plenty

Karplusan Forest

Battlefield Forge

Brushland

Balaam__ on White Green Life Gain

1 year ago

Any other dual land that enters untapped would be better than Temple of Plenty. ETB:Tapped is going to set you back, particularly in Legacy which is a very fast format. The obvious choices are all extremely expensive, but there are some cheap candidates that are worth a look. Branchloft Pathway  Flip and Brushland come to mind as well as Overgrown Farmland or Sunpetal Grove. All of the above have little quirks but they’re much easier to fulfill and therefore put a dual land in play for immediate use.

GangstaFranksta on Arcades, the Strategist's Army

1 year ago

You should think about adding The Pride of Hull Clade because he is good but also cool. But I think you would benefit a lot from improving your mana base. I suggest it should look more like this:

Lands

Basic

8x Plains, 8 Island, 4 Forest

Pain

Adarkar Wastes, Brushland, Yavimaya Coast

Scry Lands

Temple of Mystery, Temple of Enlightenment, Temple of Plenty

Tri Color

Brokers Hideout, Seaside Citadel, Bant Panorama

Any Color

Command Tower, Exotic Orchard

If you wanted you could also add the gain 1 life lands: Tranquil Cove, Blossoming Sands, and Thornwood Falls. You may also consider adding Krosan Verge or Myriad Landscape just to help ramp.

It would also be really beneficial to have at least a Sol Ring and an Arcane Signet.

Other

Remove Verity Circle. Seems like there are a lot of possibilities where it is just sitting on the field not providing any value. And it isn't even a creature so it can't block. You could replace this with one of the mana artifacts I mentioned earlier or like a Swords to Plowshares, Pongify, Rapid Hybridization, Path to Exile (I kind of think you need some more removal lol, but you could replace Verity Circle with whatever you wanted.)

Remove Alive / Well. Just straight up not worth. Replace with one of the cards I have mentioned.

Other than that I think this is a really good deck. I think you could use most of my suggestions and keep it close to $100.

eliakimras on Menacing Aura

2 years ago

Hello! May I step in to give you some recommendations? Since you're on a budget, all cards suggested are 2 dollars or less.

Part 1: Ramp

In: You probably want aura ramp and cost reducers over standard land ramp: Wild Growth, Transcendent Envoy, Hero of Iroas, Jukai Naturalist and Stenn, Paranoid Partisan (choosing Enchantment). These will allow you to storm through your deck casting Auras ad nauseam.

Out: Elvish Mystic, Farhaven Elf, Arcane Signet, Nature's Lore and Cultivate are all great ramp cards, but you can do better (and more thematically) with the cards I mentioned above.

Part 2: Card draw

Just as important as ramp is card draw: Galea won't always be available to you.

In: Sage's Reverie, Enchantress's Presence, Satyr Enchanter, Mesa Enchantress.

Out: Coiling Oracle, Curious Obsession (unreliable), Curse of Verbosity (unreliable), Eel Umbra.

Part 3: Removal

Swords to Plowshares is GREAT, no doubt. But, in this kind of deck, you can spice it up with the great Auras that has for removal.

The objective is, then, to use the cheapest Auras that can hit more than one permanent type, with emphasis on "loses its abilities" in the text box.

In: Mortal Obstinacy, Ossification (synergy with your basic land fetchers).

Out: Reclamation Sage, Swords to Plowshares.

Part 4: Boardwipes

In: I believe you should run more boardwipes that leave your board mostly untouched. Austere Command is one such example. You almost always will clean all artifacts and the half of creatures that are more dangerous to you. Curse of the Swine is another selective wipe.

Out: Time Wipe (not one-sided), Plains.

Part 5: Protection and Evasion

In Voltron, tempo is crucial.

Now to the Auras:

Following the same logic as with removal, I'm using auras over instants to protect the Voltron.

Part 6: Tutors

Without Hammer of Nazahn, Nazahn, Revered Bladesmith is just a more expensive Open the Armory.

In: Open the Armory, Heliod's Pilgrim, Moon-Blessed Cleric, Light-Paws, Emperor's Voice and Invasion of Theros  Flip (bonus that all those tutors also change your library's top card).

Out: Nazahn, Revered Bladesmith, Celestial Archon, Heliod's Emissary, Hypnotic Siren, Curse of Unbinding (7 mana is a lot for an Aura).

Part 7: Win Conditions

In: Since you're going all-in with auras, All That Glitters and Ethereal Armor do wonders.

Out: Bruna, Light of Alabaster is slow and telegraphed in this build. People won't let her stick to the field. Nissa, Steward of Elements is tough to protect in a Voltron build, while she only offers scry, which your lands can already do.

Part 8: Lands

In:

Out:

  • Thriving Grove, Thriving Heath and Thriving Isle are neat fixing, but the Temples are superior since they play into Galea's strategy.
  • Path of Ancestry is great if you're in a 5-color deck or in a tribal-heavy creature deck. This build is neither.
  • Lumbering Falls is good for suiting Equipments on, but Auras will just go to the graveyard when this land stops being a creature.
  • Azorius Chancery, because you don't run the other two bouncelands.
  • Razorverge Thicket. You'll soon realize that the later turns are more important than the early ones in EDH. This land is a beast in Modern, but it is far from worth it in Commander unless you're playing a turn-3 win deck.
  • Forest and Forest to give room for the two remaining Panoramas. (With all the land searching above, you're probably more likely now to have a target for Utopia Sprawl than before.)
  • Seaside Citadel. I know, I know: tri-lands are great and all, but, in this build, I'm trying to bake the top-of-library manipulation into the manabase so you have more free spell slots for your Auras, similar to what I did with Yennett, Cryptic Oddity (to a great success): each land in it has to either enter untapped somehow or change the top card of the library.

If you read this far, congratulations! Here is the list of the deck with all the suggested alterations, in case you want to test it: Galea, Menacing Aura. Good luck and have fun!

ET_ASH1228 on Enchantment Selesnya GW

2 years ago

something you could add is Temple of Plenty because it taps for both colors and you get a scry with it

Orange+ on Punching in Pillow Fights

3 years ago

Hi, H-E-N-R-Y

Cool deck you've got going here :)

I have made a Sythis deck myself, but to be honest, Im not completely into what people usually play with Sythis. I could however provide some initial thoughts I have based on your decklist.

First of I would recommend that you structure your deck with categories. I know a lot of people on tappedout doesnt use them, but they are very useful when building decks or providing feedback.

You play a lot of lands that enter the battlefield tapped, but as a two color deck containing green, Im not sure if you need to. Some of them might be handy, like Path of Ancestry and Temple of Plenty which gives scry. But I dont think you need the rest, and could swap them out with lands that dont enter tapped (like just basics). The lands are: Arctic Treeline, Blossoming Sands, Graypelt Refuge, Path of Ancestry, Scattered Groves, Selesnya Guildgate, Selesnya Sanctuary, Temple of Plenty, Thriving Grove, Vivid Grove, and Vivid Meadow

I've tried to play Crystal Chimes myself, and didnt like it that much. If I were you, I would probably take out both the chimes and the Cloud Key. They seem slow. Cards like the chimes and Resurgent Belief are very telegraphed, meaning your opponents will know what you can do before you do them, this is often quite a disadvantage.

Otherwise I think your composition is pretty nice with lots of good cards. But it might get better if you cut some of the larger mana cost cards. If you get to draw a lot from your commander, you might as well play a lot of cards. And if that is the case, mana is what is holding you back. I think cards like Celestial Mantle, Eldrazi Conscription, Epic Proportions, Gigantiform, Indrik Umbra, Martyr's Bond, and Prodigious Growth are a bit too mana expensive. (However, if you treat some of these as wincon, you should keep those)

As I mentioned, Im not quite sure what is common to play with Sythis, but as you have many spells with mana cost 3 or less, you could try Sun Titan. Otherwise, enchantment recursion is really nice in these kinds of decks (against bordwipes and such). Cards like Replenish, Retether, and Brilliant Restoration.

Finally, as mentioned by others commenters, I think removal is really important. I think Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are natural fits, but if you want play more enchatments, you could also try Journey to Nowhere, Borrowed Time, or Oblivion Ring. My deck Riders on the Storm has a removal category if you want to take another look.

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