Relic of Progenitus

Artifact

: Target player removes a card in his or her graveyard from the game.

, Remove Relic of Progenitus from the game: Remove all graveyards from the game. Draw a card.

Discussion (51)

GhostChieftain on Abzan combos

2 days ago

Abzkaban I have been considering adding Natural Order for some time now ( crash328 Eldritch Evolution too). I think i will test them both out for a bit soon and see how it goes.

As far as Kaya's Ghostform goes, that is a hard pass from me. It is a cute combo for sure, but it is disruptable with a Relic of Progenitus , Deathrite Shaman , etc... I have enough graveyard combos as it is.

Marcus_Licinius_Crassus on MDN RB Hogaak VengeVine

3 days ago

clayperce,

I like the idea of Blasting Station as an answer to Surgical Extraction on the Altar of Dementia . I think blasting station has some value. You can also overload the triggers on the stack in order to grind out maximum value against Relic of Progenitus . You can also backdoor win against Death's Shadow decks as any variety (4C / Grixis / Esper). I hope the card does it's job, which is to make the deck better post board.

jamiekingslayer on Lushy bushy

1 week ago

Btw, do you have any thoughts on Wheel of Sun and Moon vs Relic of Progenitus ¿

CNobre on Queen of Pillows (Marchesa)

1 week ago

Hi SwiftDeath, thx for your suggestions, I really appreciate it!

• Skullclamp : Performed quite well so far. Has inherent synergy with the commander, it's a turn1 drop with no coloured mana requirements, draws plenty of cards and always has tokens around to "clamp" ( Queen Marchesa , Ogre Slumlord , Ophiomancer , Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts , Rite of the Raging Storm , to name a few). It's even often the case that I equip a creature that Skullclamp does not kill and then proceed to sac that creature to an ability or spell.

• Sunforger : I checked your build and you have a whopping 15 targets for it. Should really shine on your deck! Mine currently runs only 4 legal targets making sunforger way less appealing. It will soon be 5 targets as I am going to cut Vindicate for it's instant-speed counterpart Generous Gift . I'll add it to my Maybeboard and keep an eye on my Instants package.

• Sun Titan : 6 cmc slots were already pretty crowded but yeah, I should probably run this anyway!

• Rakdos Charm / Mimic Vat : Overall am satisfied with my graveyard hate package ( Rakdos Charm , Bojuka Bog and Relic of Progenitus ) This last one may be a wasted slot but is also a concession to turn1 plays and a proper mana curve :) Regarding Mimic Vat , my creatures (with some exceptions) are mostly of the pillow-fort/rattlesnake type that perform by being in play and using the Vat on them is really unexciting. Of course that I can see it being useful using it on the opponents creature but atm I am going more for graveyard hate that catch everything and not just creatures.

• Kaya's Guile : When I saw the spoiler I got really excited about this card but after reading it multiple times it become clear that besides the exile graveyards option all the other ones are underwhelming. Specially the first, you will of curse remove some "weeds" from your lawn but the "cactus" that you NEED to take care of will "thorn your derriere".

• Blind Obedience : Not the kind of effect I am looking for. I want my opponents to attack as soon as they can. Not me though.

• Asha's Favor / Sword of Vengeance : Not a fan of the aura as it will often just go to the GY because my opponents killed my creature in response. The Sword of Vengeance is another story. Will stick around and does two things that benefit greatly my deathtouchers giving them First Strike and Vigilance. I will add it to the maybeboard and try it out.

Regarding your list, is your deck performing with only 30 lands? Seems way too low and besides that you should also look into reducing a bit the number of spells on your 3cmc and 4cmc slots. I think that these changes alone will allow your deck to run smoother.

Silverdrake on Tempered Steel

1 week ago

Maybe consider replacing the Ixalan's Bindings and Prison Realms with some more inexpensive (mana wise) removal like Condemn or Blessed Alliance . I agree with Xerxez that you should up your count on plating and vault skirge. Also consider Springleaf Drum - it allows you to cast your tempered steel a lot easier and even might allow you to dip a few cards into other colors between it and glimmervoid.

Sideboard is vastly dependent on what you're playing against, so for this I'll assume your friends are playing a wide variety of current meta decks. Graveyard decks are huge right now, so you'll want some yard hate like Rest in Peace or Relic of Progenitus . 5c humans is still big, and they're definitely faster than you. Whipflare is a great way to sweep their legs out from under them in the early turns so you can overwhelm them. It can also come in against a number of other decks that you just can't beat in a race (like goblins or elves, for example). Some inexpensive artifact removal like Wear or Ancient Grudge can also be invaluable. Revoke Existence is another option if you're determined to stay mono-white. Tron is still big because it's Tron so of course it's big. That same cheap artifact removal is great for sniping their maps before they can activate them, or even eating a wurmcoil as a makeshift removal spell. You also have Damping Sphere , which is just hilarious if you can land it against them. Also works nicely against storm and to a lesser extent Phoenix. Company combo shouldn't be too hard for you since you can already snipe their pieces with Walking Ballista, but you could try Ghirapur AEther Grid if you're having trouble with the matchup. Against burn I guess you just cry? Whipflare has some potential in that matchup but not much... Something like Revitalize , potentially? You don't have a lot of good options there. And for the mirror match just bring in that same artifact removal I mentioned before.

Whatever you decide to do, good luck and have fun!

fluffyeel on Budget 8-Rack

1 week ago

No problem! I prefer Relic of Progenitus over the Spellbomb because you can also use it to pick off their graveyard without blowing it up immediately. (Every turn, you can exile a card from their graveyard, which does add up!) I might prefer to replace all the Spellbombs with Relic of Progenitus.

For the Ashioks, I'd run two of them, and same with Ghost Quarter. Two sideboarded Damping Spheres also seems like a good amount, maybe three depending on your meta, in lieu of maybe the Engineered Plagues (a lot of decks that would get hit by the Plagues also often would get hit by the Damping Spheres, like Elves!).

jamiekingslayer on Lushy bushy

1 week ago

Gladly! My sideboard is kinda specified to decks i see, for example back to nature is good against bogles but not much else, so adjust your own sideboard!

As a rule of thumb i switch out creature cards for crature cards in the sideboard, and non-creature for non-creature.

The reason for this is that you are mainly a creature aggro deck, where creatures are star and pumpspells either help; finish ( Aspect of Hydra ) / protect ( Vines of Vastwood ). This means that if you are siding in "protection" i.e. Relic of Progenitus i would consider switching out vines of vastwood. Same goes for Dismember , for if you need to remove creatures from your opponent they're most likely removal-light.

Feed the Clan can also be switched with vines, for the simple reason that most our creatures are beefy enough to withstand damage-removal, and this is mainly for dealing with burn. Collector Ouphe is mainly for affinity and here you could for example swap out scavenging ooze lest you desperatly need lifegain. They dont rely on their graveyard.

As you see i often swap out vines, i much consider it the weakest card and most flexible. but then again it depends on the matchup and personal taste. Consider your need for protection, explosiveness, interaction, and so on. Sometimes you might not want to switch out all the copies of a certain card, but rather take out different cards.

Lastly i want to say that you should probably make slight mainboard changes aswell: Kalonian Tusker is a good alternative for scavenging ooze, if you need more power earlier. The number of Rancor , Vines of Vastwood and Aspect of Hydra can be interchanged, and even switched out for Blossoming Defense or Dismember .

The onedrop slot is also very adjustable: Dryad Militant shines against certain decks (mostly storm and maybe dredge, and maybe snaocaster decks)and Hexdrinker against others. Same goes for Experiment One and Pelt Collector . The two latter should only be split in a 4-2 or 3-3 in my opinion because they cant evolve one another.

Lastly if there are certain cards you dont want/own in the sideboard here are alternatives:

Wheel of Sun and Moon : a good replacement for Relic of Progenitus , as it gives two devotion and is a continous denying effect. Whats already in their graveyard stays there though.

Oxidize alternativ for Natural State if you dont need to take out enchantmens.

Thrun, the Last Troll : Very good against control, but i have had a though time against Terminus lately which wrecks him. Pro tip, there seems to be some changes coming up to UW control, and this might mean Terminus is being phased out, so do keep your eye out for thrun.

Hope this helps! Reply if you need more help or anything was unclear ;D

SirHerpaderp on Budget 8-Rack

1 week ago

Hey fluffyeel, thank you for the well structured and detailed insight :) looks pretty good to me, I especially like Extirpate (tho it's not that cheap. Only questions have left is whether you would prefer Relic of Progenitus over Nihil Spellbomb and why or if you would run both? And furthermore, how would you distribute the cards, how many of which would you run?

Massacre is included due to a lot of players running death and taxes in my local store.