Relic of Progenitus

Artifact

: Target player removes a card in his or her graveyard from the game.

, Remove Relic of Progenitus from the game: Remove all graveyards from the game. Draw a card.

Discussion (51)

wallisface on Thopter Sword whir

1 week ago

Some thoughts:

• Mana Drain is not modern legal, so you shouldn't be running that :)

• I would personally drop the large cmc cards, as modern is quite a fast format and they won't get a chance to see play a lot of the time - also they appear to be sucking up a lot of places in your deck by requiring you to run mana rocks. I'd ditch Darksteel Forge , Doubling Cube , Manalith , Vedalken Orrery , Mastermind's Acquisition and Master Transmuter here, as all of them are either too slow, or not doing enough (or both). You want to plan to have won the game on turn 5 or sooner (in a goldfish situation), and none of these cards help to make that dream consistent.

• I feel like Mirrormade is probably also not strong enough, as i'm not sure what you'd target with that that'd be worthwhile?

• As you're in blue and black, I would highly recommend some early game disruption to make sure that your pieces get to stay in play happily. Stuff like Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek would do wonders here.

• As far as strengthening your ability to grab cards and solidify your board, stuff like Whir of Invention and Emry, Lurker of the Loch both help you get everything going a lot faster. They also let you run more of a toolboxy build where you can run a bunch of 1-ofs in the deck and fish them up for any given situation (i'm thinking single copies of Ensnaring Bridge , Relic of Progenitus , Welding Jar ), as well as being able to recur stuff like a playset of Mishra's Bauble for constant gain with Emry.

• I think given the above suggestions, there is really strong odds that you can win faster without Time Sieve than with it (by just swinging with a bunch of thopters). Maybe drop down to a single copy of that card also, so you can toolbox for it in the rare times where it provides a faster clock.

Mcat1999 on Is Progenitus a God?

1 week ago

Progenitus doesn't have the God subtype, though in lore it is called a God. On Relic of Progenitus , the flavor text even cites it as a 'Hydra-God'.

To my understanding, an Avatar is the embodiment of and purification of some abstract concept.

Progenitus could be the abstract concept of Alara itself, but if it is worshipped and called a God, should it rightfully be reconned to be one? Ala errata to the typeline to show:

• Legendary Creature - Hydra God

abby315 on An old elephant learns new tricks

1 week ago

Cloudchaser.Kestrel Thanks for the suggestions! I considered Gift of Immortality but I'm not just gunning for the combo ASAP (or this would be a Bell Borca deck probably) so I'd rather just run the tutors to find Angelic Renewal . Boonweaver Giant is interesting though since it goes and tutors the enchantment as well, so I'll pop it in the maybeboard and see whether I can fit it in.

VampRamped Thank you! I don't want to load up on self-exile unless it can play the card too, since I can't actually mill that many cards at a time, but I probably should run Relic of Progenitus since it's a good rate.

VampRamped on An old elephant learns new tricks

1 week ago

Looks like a fun list wanted to get your thoughts on some card idea's I had for your deck.

Colfenor's Urn has a cool interaction with the trigger and looks like you have enough triggers to make it work.

Crook of Condemnation , Relic of Progenitus , Scrabbling Claws , are all cool cheap ways to trigger your commander. You probably don't want to get rid of a lot of your cards in your graveyard, but you have a lot of looting so you can just exile your lands for the free 3/2's. Additionally, you can also just use them as graveyard hate for opponents as well.

Gracco on From Dusk Till Dawn

2 months ago

Relic of Progenitus is generally better since it exiles all graveyards and draws you a card.

darthpaul74 on From Dusk Till Dawn

2 months ago

Hey Gracco, don't you think since I am playing mono black I can take advantage of Bojuka Bog instead of Relic of Progenitus ? Then I can have a 2-in-1 and save the space for other cards. And what about Tormod's Crypt ?

Gracco on From Dusk Till Dawn

2 months ago

Honestly, if you wanted to be a mad lad and actually take this to a real Vintage table the changes to the deck to make it viable would be really simple. in theory, a good discard suite would be needed to combat all the combo decks in the format and then some kill spells would be preferential to handle the creatures on the other side of the table, then maybe a couple Relic of Progenitus in the main deck against Dredge. Since Vintage is not a very creature heavy format, outside of Ravager Shops, Dredge, and Eldrazi Beatdown when it does actually show up (Even the popular midrange creature decks do not play many creatures and instead opt to focus on control elements more), it is a hot take that a good creature based aggressive deck that has the tools to handle opposing combo decks, such as a mono black aggro deck like this with the above changes, could actually sneak up and be competitive out of nowhere. I have seen a dedicated creature aggro list take a Vintage event by storm out of nowhere many times, just because people are not ready for that. Rock on.

Daedalus19876 on To Drown the World in Death: Araumi EDH [PRIMER]

4 months ago

Queso_Fresco: It depends, somewhat. I generally don't over-extend, so I can rebuild my graveyard, and there's a LOT of lines to victory here. It's unusual for them all to get exiled in one shot. Relic of Progenitus doesn't worry me TOO much. Also, when I think an opponent has graveyard hate in hand, I prioritize wheeling even if it's card disadvantage for me.

HOWEVER, I do struggle a lot against early Rest in Peace or Planar Void or a pre-game Leyline of the Void. I can usually deal with an instant-speed exile effect, even if it's at a rough time. It's the continuous forms of graveyard hate which cause me real trouble. I've been considering how to deal with that... But to consistently have answers for them would force me to warp the deck pretty badly (7+ bounce spells, etc) and I'm not certain it's worth it.

I probably SHOULD stick Feed the Swarm in here, though.