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| Format | Legality |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Premodern | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Tinker
Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice an artifact.
Search your library for an artifact card, put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
legendofa on Beta Brackets Update Today
1 month ago
TheoryCrafter I can see a Bracket 6 that basically acts as the banlist/anything goes area, but some of the stuff on the banlist makes Dockside Extortionist and Jeweled Lotus look like Strike it Rich and Chromatic Star. Even in the rarefied airs of Bracket 5, what would happen?
Usual disclaimer that I don't cEDH at all, but something like Oloro + Lotus + Lurrus (even in the 99--tutors ahoy!), or Temur Tolarian Moxen 'n' Treasures into copy-spammed Tinker and Upheaval with a side of Fastbond, sounds eye-rendingly miserable to my Bracket-3-or-less-dwelling carcass.
Squee_Spirit_Guide on
Channeling Genius
8 months ago
Craeter, ooh I hadn't thought of Ensnaring Bridge! That could be a strong Tinker
target. I like it! I have one kicking around somewhere, I'll add it in and see how it goes. Thanks for the feedback!
nuperokaso on
Brian Stacks' Anvil (E)
11 months ago
- Fill in the format. I suspect Vintage, since you are playing Demonic Tutor.
- What is the budget? If there is none, go with Badlands, Mox Ruby instead of 1 Simian Spirit Guide
- You are playing just 1 blue card, and it's not that much relevant - Windfall. Throw it away and you can then go two-color with much more stable and less painful mana-base. Remove 4 Aether Hub and 4 City of Brass. Play instead 1 Blood Crypt, 1 Raucous Theater, 1 Graven Cairns, 1 Sulfurous Springs, 4 Blackcleave Cliffs
- Memory Jar is an insane card in this strategy, since it causes your opponent to discard 7 cards while it gives you more cards to play. I would replace it for 1 Howling Mine. Jar may well be a reason to still play blue - for Tinker. In that case also replace a few swamps for Vault of Whispers.
SufferFromEDHD on
Overgrown Garden
1 year ago
Urza's Legacy was a strange set. Memory Jar and Tinker in the same set... How? Destiny was strange too. Aura Thief always stands out to me. Masticore with the Urza legendary lands is iconic. Supposed to be an artifact block, which it was, but the enchantments were ridiculous. I was a fan of Echo but it was the only cycle in the block that lacked power.
Legends for a lack of better words was legendary. Overflowing with power. Interesting that it is a favorite of yours as Telepathy is a power creeped Field of Dreams.
Alliances is a sleeper for sure. The years have been kind to it.
sylvannos on
Hoax Storm v2
2 years ago
@FireMind42: Yeah in that case, you'll want to go for Underworld Breach or Paradoxical Outcome (or something weird with both). I'd lean more towards Paradoxical Outcome because it lends itself better to straight U/R Storm. Not to mention, it opens up Displacer Kitten + Coveted Jewel shenanigans. Then you won't have to rely on rituals so much (Desperate Ritual, Goblin Electromancer, and Seething Song are especially awkward). You can then fit more artifact mana and draw spells.
You'll still want Bolas's Citadel because you're never going to actually spend black mana to cast it and the card is just the nuts in Storm. Memory Jar is always fun with Hullbreacher and Narset, Parter of Veils, but Bolas's Citadel is like Yawgmoth's Will and Yawgmoth's Bargain in one card that can be Tinker'd for (especially with Sensei's Divining Top, Brainstorm, and Ponder). You'll still need Sphinx of the Steel Wind in your sideboard, which is another card you're never going to actually cast.
Since you don't want Monastery Mentor, you'll have to get by with Laelia, the Blade Reforged. Sometimes you'll want to Grapeshot. Sometimes you'll want to Brain Freeze. Sometimes you'll want to Empty the Warrens. Other times, you need something that can get big quick and an easy way to do that is Laelia, the Blade Reforged, Treasure Cruise, and Dig Through Time. She's mostly for Underworld Breach, but I'm not sure you'll need that with Paradoxical Outcome.
I also don't know how I forgot to mention Mind's Desire in my original post. That's the reason to play pure U/R Storm in Vintage LOL. Personal Tutor may also have a potential spot somewhere in this list. It grabs Tinker, Grapeshot, Time Walk, Mind's Desire, and draw 7s. I'd even consider it over the second copies of Past in Flames and Grapeshot.
FireMind42 on
Hoax Storm v2
2 years ago
sylvannos Oh my god thank you so much! Sorry for the late response, but I really appreciate all the advice. Paradoxical Outcome is absolutely insane now that you mention the Mox synergy, and I have no idea how I missed Tinker in my original deck building phase.
As for your other suggestions, there are two elements of the deck I want to maintain which I forgot mention in the original post.
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I want to keep the deck U/R because when I started playing in RTR I was obsessed with the Izzet. In Highschool I had the chance to draft MM13 for a friend's b-day, and after getting passed multiple copies of Gifts Ungiven,Grapeshot,Peer Through Depths, and Manamorphose, I managed to Grapeshot for lethal in nearly every single game. That was when I fell in love with Magic, and I thought Storm was just the coolest archetype because it fully embodies the absolute chaos that is U/R.
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As for Thassa's Oracle, I have never really liked "you win the game cards," and I prefer to win with damage for flavor reasons. I love the feeling of counting up Storm count before casting lethal, and imagining I am a Planeswalker wielding fire and lightning to blast my opponent to dust (lol). Plus, cards that just end the game immediately tend to make opponents more frustrated than if they were killed by damage. Although that is just my experience haha
I will be experimenting with this build and I am already thinking of ways I can use your recommendations, I've always been a very casual player but I have a big interest in competitive magic so thanks again for the advice. I will be back soon for some more tips! :)
Thanks for the warm welcome, I am VERY excited to be playing such a complex format!
-Ya boi
FireMind
sylvannos on
Hoax Storm v2
2 years ago
To start with, there's a few cards that have better Vintage equivalents. Overmaster and Spell Pierce should be the 3rd. and 4th. copies of Force of Will. Leftover space from cutting those can be Red Elemental Blast, Pyroblast, or Flusterstorm. You don't need Faithless Looting because we have Paradoxical Outcome, Sensei's Divining Top, Gush, Dig Through Time, Treasure Cruise, and Brainstorm to choose from. Merchant Scroll also belongs in here, because you can use it to grab Ancestral Recall at the very least. Usually you want it to make sure you have protection in hand by grabbing countermagic.
Library of Alexandria isn't good in this deck. And you're not the type that needs 8x sources, so Steam Vents can go, along with a few copies of Volcanic Island (1 or 2). Replace all of these with four copies of Scalding Tarn and basic lands. Or even just play 6x fetches. You need to be able to shuffle after using Brainstorm, Ponder,and Sensei's Divining Top.
From here, you have a solid U/R Storm shell. However, I wouldn't play straight "Modern U/R Storm, but Power 9" dot dec. 2 mana is a lot for Goblin Electromancer, there are easier ways of winning than Grapeshot, and so on. The question then becomes "Where to go from here?"
- Paradoxical Outcome is just the nuts. By bouncing moxen and cheap artifacts, it's a ritual (since you can replay everything for , untapping it all) and it's a draw spell. However, Paradoxical Outcome requires Mox Opals, Lotus Petal, Lion's Eye Diamond, etc. so you'll have to cut rituals (likely Seething Song). The upside is you get an extremely powerful engine that can often end the game with a single Paradoxical Outcome.
- Thassa's Oracle is the new hotness for Vintage combo cards. You can win the game by casting Brain Freeze on yourself, then casting Thassa's Oracle. It also opens up more combos using Demonic Consultation and Doomsday. Sometimes you've just drawn a bunch of cards and have ~3 cards left in your deck.
- Tinker is too good in Storm not to play it. You're either getting Memory Jar, Bolas's Citadel, Time Vault (Voltaic Key is already good in Storm when combined with Mana Vault and friends), or a random wincon like Sphinx of the Steel Wind boarded in for game 2. Bolas's Citadel will essentially flip the top half of your deck into play.
- You can also play draw 7s (Wheel of Fortune, Timetwister, Memory Jar, Diminishing Returns) in combination with Narset, Parter of Veils and Hullbreacher.
- Mana Drain is good, but you may find it too slow if you make any of the above changes. It definitely does more work in a more control-oriented Storm deck with Narset, Parter of Veils, Dack Fayden, Grim Tutor, etc.
- Lastly, there's the question of Underworld Breach, Yawgmoth's Will, Monastery Mentor, or some combination of these. Underworld Breach will mean you can stay in two colors. Playing black for Yawgmoth's Will allows you to play Dark Ritual, Cabal Ritual, Yawgmoth's Bargain, Necropotence, Doomsday, Tendrils of Agony, and hardcasting Bolas's Citadel. Monastery Mentor both scales up and goes sideways. A single token is enough to kill someone combined with Paradoxical Outcome or a draw 7. Monastery Mentor is like casting Tarmogoyf and Empty the Warrens for three mana and one card.
Hope this helps! Welcome to MtG's oldest and greatest format.
multimedia on
Urza's Engines of Armageddon
2 years ago
Hey, +1 for the deck name! I really like the concept of using Vehicles to crew each other to help to pay for Urza's artifact creature affinity. One creature who can crew a single Vehicle can create a chain that essentially bypasses having to pay for Urza's Commander tax.
You have 10 playable Vehicles here, that's not many if you want a Vehicle strategy. Consider more Vehicles and interactions with Vehicles?
Anchor to Reality is a Vehicle Tinker.
Imposter Mech and Weatherlight are more Vehicles with good effects. Weatherlight can repeatedly look at the top five cards of your library and put any one artifact or legendary card into your hand. The better creatures here who have Vehicle interactions are legendary and Artifact lands are historic. Imposter can become any creature an opponent controls, but it's still an artifact/Vehicle. That's really good with Master Transmuter, who can change what creature Imposer becomes.
Another reason to add more Vehicles is Greasefang, Okiba Boss, Esper, Vehicles and Greasefang go together nicely. Tezzeret, Betrayer of Flesh is an underrated Planeswalker with Vehicles and Greasefang, in fact all of his abilities are good here especially -6 emblem with crew. A Vehicle crew chain can draw a ton of cards if you have his emblem.
Crew is an activated ability thus if it's the first artifact activated ability you use on a player's turn it's 2 less to crew. His +1 is Thirst for Knowledge, draw and discard before combat for Greasefang. -2 effect doesn't end until that Vehicle leaves the battlefield which can really turn any noncreature artifact you control into a 4/4 Vehicle.
Research Thief and Bident of Thassa are consistent repeatable draw effects because of Constructs as well as with Vehicles who will most likely have just as easy time then a Construct at doing combat damage to a player. Losheel, Clockwork Scholar is nice with Constructs for combat damage + repeatable draw.
- Ornithopter of Paradise, Fellwar Stone
- Liquimetal Torque
- Sculpting Steel
- Aerial Surveyor
- Cranial Plating
Only seven ramp sources is low amount, consider more ramp? Ornithopter of Paradise without help is not a crewer, but it's good ramp for Urza which is just as important. Liquimetal Torque, if it's not making mana it can make Urza an artifact giving him menace to have an easier time attacking and doing Commander damage. Sculpting Steel can be a mana rock or any other artifact on the battlefield. It's another Metamorph effect which is excellent in multiplayer Commander. Aerial Surveyor is a Vehicle for ramp, but it can only get basic Plains which is still fine.
Cranial Plating is powerful with artifacts and it can be used with 0 power artifacts to make them crewers or attackers.
Good luck with your deck.
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