Spire Garden

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Spire Garden enters the battlefield tapped unless you have two or more opponents.

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DemMeowsephs on Sultai_Sir

4 days ago

Hey there! No problem, and you have definitely come to the right place! Here are some types of lands that I personally think should have a spot in every deck, and some multi-colored lands that work anywhere and everywhere! I hope this helps you throughout your journey in the world of magic.

• Types of Lands:

• Shock Lands

• These lands say when [cardname] enters the battlefield you either take two, or have it enter tapped, which I am sure you are familiar with.

• Watery Grave, Blood Crypt, Temple Garden, Breeding Pool, Hallowed Fountain, Stomping Ground, Sacred Foundry, Overgrown Tomb, Steam Vents and Godless Shrine

• Check Lands

• These are lands that say, [cardname] enters the battlefield tapped unless you control a [land type] or [land type]. These aren't always that good in my opinion, but if you need a cheaper option they are MUCH better than guildgates, etc.

• Glacial Fortress, Drowned Catacomb, Woodland Cemetery, Dragonskull Summit, Isolated Chapel, Rootbound Crag, Sunpetal Grove, Hinterland Harbor, Sulfur Falls, and Clifftop Retreat

• Filter Lands

• Similar to the signets, these lands can be extremely useful when you have one color, and need the other. They are also a lot cheaper as they just got reprinted in Double Masters

• Wooded Bastion, Sunken Ruins, Mystic Gate, Flooded Grove, Rugged Prairie, Graven Cairns, Fire-Lit Thicket, Fetid Heath, Twilight Mire, Cascade Bluffs

• Fast Lands

• Some of my personal favorites, these lands can be untapped unless you have 4+ lands, and are very helpful at the start of the game

• Seachrome Coast, Razorverge Thicket, Botanical Sanctum, Copperline Gorge, Blackcleave Cliffs, Darkslick Shores, Blooming Marsh, Concealed Courtyard, Spirebluff Canal, Inspiring Vantage

• Pain Lands

• These are by far some of the best, as you always know you can get mana from them, without worrying they might be tapped, or untapped, or something like that.

• Adarkar Wastes, Underground River, Sulfurous Springs, Karplusan Forest, Brushland, Caves of Koilos, Llanowar Wastes, Yavimaya Coast, Shivan Reef, Battlefield Forge

• Horizon Lands

• The better version of pain lands- but they are not printed in every color combination. However when you can, cut your pain lands for these!

• Horizon Canopy, Silent Clearing, Nurturing Peatland, Waterlogged Grove, Fiery Islet, Sunbaked Canyon

• Fetch Lands

• There are also the beloved fetch lands, which can even search for shock lands, proving to be very useful in many situations!

• Flooded Strand, Bloodstained Mire, Windswept Heath, Wooded Foothills, Polluted Delta, Misty Rainforest, Marsh Flats, Verdant Catacombs, Arid Mesa, Scalding Tarn

• Battlebond Lands

• These are EXTREMELY useful if you have multiple opponents, as they come at no extra cost. However like the Horizon lands, they are not available in every color.
• Sea of Clouds, Morphic Pool, Luxury Suite, Spire Garden, Bountiful Promenade

These dual lands are some of the best, and my favorites, though there are many more people enjoy playing, such as bounce ladnds (Dimir Aqueduct), Battle Lands (Sunken Hollow), Reveal Lands, (Port Town), Cycle Lands (Irrigated Farmland), Storage Lands (Calciform Pools) and many others, but usually you don't have this many spaces in your deck, and so the ones I named first are usually better. However, I'm not done! There are many multicolor lands that fit in any deck, that are extremely powerful! Some of them are listed below.

• City of Brass
• Mana Confluence
• Prismatic Vista
• Fabled Passage
• Ancient Tomb
• Exotic Orchard
• Command Tower
• Forbidden Orchard
• Gemstone Mine
• Gemstone Caverns
• Command Tower
• Maze of Ith
• Strip Mine
• Wasteland
• Tarnished Citadel

• Meteor Crater

• Etc. There are many more like this but as before, the ones above are definitely the best, and most of them deserve a spot in every deck! Some specific deck themes have their own versions of these lands, like for Artifact decks you might play Glimmervoid and for Creature decks you might play Ancient Ziggurat. Usually, when I deckbuild i go to EDHREC, which has amazing suggestions and synergies for EVERY commander, and even for specific archetypes and colors- lands among them! For these speciifc themes you can find the lands you need there (along with many other cards too) but everything I named above I recommend playing in the meantime! I hope this helps you in your future decks, thanks for reaching out, good luck, and have a great day!

RubenWaters on Neyith of the Dire Hunt EDH: Beastmaster

3 weeks ago

multimedia oh boy I am playing the same deck and I have some suggestions on what to cut and suggestions on what to put in as well

Cut/ Add

Arlinn Kord  ^Flip = Domri, Anarch of Bolas

Vivien, Champion of the Wilds = Aggravated Assault

Atarka, World Render = Savage Ventmaw

Ulvenwald Tracker = Brash Taunter

Regrowth = Noxious Revival

Champion of Lambholt = Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker

Grand Warlord Radha = Dockside Extortionist

Gruul Beastmaster = Manglehorn

Huntmaster of the Fells  ^Flip = Zealous Conscripts

Nikya of the Old Ways = Apex Altisaur

Pathbreaker Ibex = Craterhoof Behemoth

Quartzwood Crasher = Polyraptor

End-Raze Forerunners = Prowling Serpopard

Rubblebelt Raiders = Ilharg, the Raze-Boar

Somberwald Sage = Birds of Paradise

Surrak, the Hunt Caller = Woodfall Primus

Gruul Guildgate = Winding Canyons

Temple of Abandon = Emergence Zone

Concordant Crossroads = Sneak Attack

Gruul War Chant = Invasion Plans

Gruul Signet = Wild Growth

Lightning Greaves = Shadowspear

Sol Ring = Utopia Sprawl

Savage Punch = Green Sun's Zenith

Shamanic Revelation = Momentous Fall

Soul's Majesty = Return of the Wildspeaker

Cultivate = Harrow

Decimate = Chaos Warp

Domri's Ambush = Ancient Animus

Hunter's Prowess = Gamble

Kodama's Reach = Crop Rotation

Shared Summons = Tooth and Nail

Temur Battle Rage = Titanic Brawl

Berserk = Pounce

Hunter's Insight = Pit Fight

Growing Rites of Itlimoc  ^Flip = Carpet of Flowers

Game Trail = Mountain

Mossfire Valley = Arid Mesa

Mosswort Bridge = Gaea's Cradle

Sheltered Thicket = Fabled Passage

Fire-Lit Thicket = Taiga

Spire Garden = Prismatic Vista

Eldritch Evolution = Heroic Intervention

Forest = Dryad Arbor

Aggressive Mammoth = Ohran Frostfang

Etali, Primal Storm = Inferno Titan

Fierce Empath = Krosan Grip

BUT these are just a suggestion

multimedia on Zacama, Primal Calamity Ramp

1 month ago

Hey, you're welcome.

When looking at the color requirements of the cards in your deck green is overall most important therefore Forests should be the most basic lands in the manabase. A basic Forest will do a lot more for you than a basic Mountain or Plains. Can cast land ramp spells with green and they get you the other colors especially Farseek, Lore and Skyshroud if you add some dual lands that are two different land types.

My advice is rely more on dual lands for white and red than basic lands. Lantern and Dryad help a lot for color fixing, but don't want to count on having one of them every game therefore make the manabase function without them and have them as a bonus. Grand Abolisher sticks out in white. Other than him white is the least important color here and green has many sources that can help to get you white mana.

The ratio of basic lands to use really depends on what kind of manabase you want to make. You want most lands in the manabase to be able to make green mana and on a budget this means lots of Forests. A budget manabase of Check lands, Battle lands, Pain lands, Bounce lands will have more basic lands. Compare this to a more expensive manabase of more Rainbow lands, Fetch lands, Shock lands, Battlebond lands, Pain lands, Bounce lands will have less basic lands. The expensive manabase would replace some basic lands with more lands that can make more than one color.

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Budget 36 land manabase example (27 green sources, 17 red, 17 white):

• 10x Forest
• 4x Mountain
• 4x Plains
• Command Tower
• Exotic Orchard
• Jungle Shrine
• Ash Barrens
• Evolving Wilds
• Naya Panorama
• Canopy Vista
• Cinder Glade
• Brushland
• Karplusan Forest
• Battlefield Forge
• Sheltered Thicket
• Scattered Groves
• Rootbound Crag
• Sunpetal Grove
• Boros Garrison
• Gruul Turf
• Selesnya Sanctuary
• Mosswort Bridge
• Sanctum of Eternity

More expensive 36 land manabase example with less basic lands:

• 8x Forest
• 2x Mountain
• 2x Plains
• Command Tower
• Exotic Orchard
• Jungle Shrine
• City of Brass
• Forbidden Orchard
• Windswept Heath
• Wooded Foothills
• Temple Garden
• Stomping Ground
• Sacred Foundry
• Bountiful Promenade
• Spire Garden
• Brushland
• Karplusan Forest
• Rugged Prairie
• Canopy Vista
• Cinder Glade
• Boros Garrison
• Gruul Turf
• Selesnya Sanctuary
• Naya Panorama
• Mosswort Bridge
• Sanctum of Eternity

DemMeowsephs on Klothys the Doomsday Clock

2 months ago

Sweet deck! Maybe consider cutting some of the slower lands for some of the following

• Temple of Mystery
• Game Trail
• Copperline Gorge
• Wooded Foothills
• Fire-Lit Thicket
• Grove of the Burnwillows
• Spire Garden
• Taiga
• City of Brass
• Mana Confluence
• Prismatic Vista
• Exotic Orchard
• Reflecting Pool
• Strip Mine
• Wasteland
• Forbidden Orchard
• Gemstone Mine
• Fabled Passage

• Ancient Tomb

• I can guarantee that your deck will perform SOOOO much better with these in the deck, rather than just using slower, tap lands. If you have any further questions about lands and mana base feel free to ask them on my wall, I'd love to help! And if this does help be sure to check out (and upvote if you like) some of my decks, I spent a lot of time on them! Anyways, I do hope this helps, good luck on your deck, and have a great day!

Mortlocke on Play all the good slivers

5 months ago

So back to your manabase - excellent. I think that for the price point you're working with this is excellent. But, there's always room for improvement. Obviously, if you can afford it going for a complete set of fetches is worth it but since budget is an issue, I would consider the addition of Prismatic Vista. Also I would go after the land cycle from Battlebond, specifically: Spire Garden, Luxury Suite, Morphic Pool, Sea of Clouds, and Bountiful Promenade. They're all essentially budget original dual lands, and since EDH is a multiplayer format it will be a rare occasion when these lands ever come into play tapped.

Now, what to cut? to make room for the Prismatic Vista I'd cut Terramorphic Expanse. Easy swap there. as for the aforementioned 5 lands i'd cut the tri-lands (Arcane Sanctum, Crumbling Necropolis, etc.) . They're strictly worse in that they will always come in tapped. Sure, you're losing a 3rd color you could potentially tap for...but the pro outweighs the con.

Monitor on Saskia Infect (Perfected)

6 months ago

thewolfiest, it will depend on what exactly you want out of your manabase. I typically prioritize untapped lands or specific utility functions. Removing duals takes away tutor targets for fetches, so you'll need to include basics.

Talking strictly meeting color requirements, for allied lands you can look at the multiplayer-specific lands that come into play tapped unless you have 2 or more opponents.

• Badlands -> Luxury Suite
• Taiga -> Spire Garden
• Savannah -> Bountiful Promenade

For the Enemy lands, you are more restricted. I'd look at the list below, leaning toward whatever priorities you held for the manabase. Easy route would be yanking the last 3 for 1 swamp, 1 forest, and 1 Prismatic Vista

Honestly, I would do this, replacing all Duals with:

• Prismatic Vista
• Arid Mesa
• Verdant Catacombs
• Swamp
• Forest
• Nurturing Peatland

This would add more fetches and fetch targets in the basics for your most-used colors, and then another draw land that helps when potentially drawing late game. These selections could change, depending on a)pain tolerance of your own manabase and b)playtest time with the deck to see what colors you tend to need when, and skewing that way. I would probably revamp the manabse jsut a little more green if I were going to go that route, I think, but I'm not 100% on it yet.

bregan9735 on Ruric thot, the unboned

7 months ago

Your lands could use some improvement too: Stomping Ground , Wooded Foothills , Command Tower , Reliquary Tower , Temple of the False God , Cinder Glade , Game Trail , Fire-Lit Thicket , Karplusan Forest , Temple of Abandon , Rootbound Crag , Kessig Wolf Run , Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx , Spire Garden , and Copperline Gorge are all easy additions

DragonSliver09 on Mayael EDH Primer

9 months ago

bankrupt_on_selling: Canopy Vista and Cinder Glade can be searched for via fetch lands like Wooded Foothills , whereas Bountiful Promenade and Spire Garden cannot.