Urzatron and Filter lands vs lotus fields

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Posted on Oct. 26, 2022, 4:25 p.m. by 9-lives

I'm wondering if Lotus Field combo works better or worse than using Urzatron with filter lands? Here's my manabase with Urzatron:

• 2x Cascading Cataracts
• 2x Painted Bluffs
• 4x Shimmering Grotto
• 4x Unknown Shores
• 4x Urza's Mine
• 4x Urza's Power Plant
• 4x Urza's Tower
• 4x Expedition Map

28 cards total

Here's the minimum manabase and cards to make Lotus Fields work:

• 6x Forest
• 4x Island
• 4x Lotus Field
• 2x Temple of Mystery
• 4x Thespian's Stage
• 4x Yavimaya Coast
• 4x Hidden Strings
• 4x Sylvan Scrying
• 4x Vizier of Tumbling Sands

36 cards total

Also, I can use filter lands themselves to make more colored mana. Urzatron with filter is even better. Lotus Fields requires that they are untapped artificially, which seems to giv the urzatron an advantage.

wallisface says... #2

So, assuming you’re wanting a lot or coloured mana, these are some thoughts:

Urzatron:

• Urza lands are great at making loads of colourless mana, but terrible for providing colours. There’s good odds you’re going to create something really clunky.

• Your current package only includes one playset of land-fectching cards (Expedition Map), which is woefully inadequate. Normally tron also needs to include playsets of both Ancient Stirrings and Sylvan Scrying (as well as 8-10 cantrip-artifacts) to reliably get tron online in any kind if timely matter.

• Added to the stresses of getting Tron online, you’ve compounded the issue by needing coloured mana, meaning you’ll still need to fetch up the lands that provide that. You’ve created a LOT of unnecessary hoops to jump through, imo.

Lotus Field:

• Like the tron package, i’m not sure you’re running enough ways to get the Lotus Field. Without that card in play, it really feels like your deck will be doing a lot of nothing. It might be instead that you just need to go less all-in on assuming you’ll draw that land early, however (i.e ditch the gimicky untap effects).

• Your package really should be including a playset of Blood Sun, so that you can benefit from not having to deal with Lotus Field’s sacrifice trigger.

October 26, 2022 4:46 p.m.

wallisface says... #3

Also this thread appears to be a copy if this one, so one should be purged.

October 26, 2022 4:48 p.m.

Caerwyn says... #4

As noted above, this is a duplicate thread so I am locking it.

October 26, 2022 4:58 p.m.