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Pongify
Instant
Destroy target creature. It can't be regenerated. That creature's controller creates a 3/3 green Ape creature token.
seshiro_of_the_orochi on
Shell Hath No Fury Like A Turtle With Crabs
3 weeks ago
Looks awesome! I have a 60 card turtle tribal, and I actually considered building Pride in a similar way.
I do have some cards you might want to consider:
Rapid Hybridization, Pongify: Both are cheap kill spells, and the tokens left behind will badically never be a problem for you.
Dive Down: Quite the great protection spell, and once you have Bedrock Tortoise or Assault Formation online, it will even be a combat trick.
Charix, the Raging Isle: Duuh ;D
Profaner of the Dead: One-sided wipe that's taylor-made for the deck.
Bident of Thassa: The card draw is great, but the activated ability is powerful for you, as it's basically redundancy for Angler Turtle.
Andramalech on
I Have A Dragon
3 weeks ago
In my best Kaiba impression- you're a third rate duelist using a FOURTH rate deck! it's not bad, I'm just joking. I like what you have here! If you want to push into bracket 4 territory I recommend the following:
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lowering your overall mana curve. 2 drops are your best friend here for this reason, and having access to temur colors, in this kind of concept.. maybe:
- Sylvan Library
- Mirri's Guile
- Rhystic Study
.. all of these to get your draws and hand in a row. I see you've already taken up Three Visits so just increase your count of all those spells like Thirsting Roots and even Farseek to capitalize on that ramp capability. The newly released Temur Devotee is a nice committed mana-fixer.
Otherwise, consider lower cost removal spells such as Pongify and Rapid Hybridization, even Swan Song and Strix Serenade. The most efficient way to break into the higher bracket is to do things at their most efficient capability. In this case, you'll have tons of high cost dragons. Right? So use a formula. turn 1 dork, turn 2 ramp, etc., etc. whatever works for your playstyle. Just have one in mind!
The biggest issue your deck has is that you have next to NO one drop spells. Minion of the Mighty exists and so does Elvish Mystic, and Llanowar Elves. You absolutely need to make use of your first turn beyond just putting down a land and passing.
And if you are intent on holding up that one mana on your first and doing a land down, go - you HAVE to increase the number of instants you leave yourself access to. 6 simply is nowhere near enough. Arguably, more than 2 per hand is preferred. Stuff like Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are so popular and effective because they can be used on that first turn. I mean, you might be a card down for it.. but it'd be better than sitting on your hands for the first turn.
I would recommend using that newly printed red dork that was at 2 mana, because I like your 2 mana package in green colors. The hard issue after wards is probably how much has to happen at 3 mana rather than happening at one mana. Consider stuff like Burgeoning, Exploration.
All of this to say I hope your deck building process is easier with the feedback, please feel free to reach out if you have questions- I happen to really like what you've acquired here and want to see you succeed. Good luck, and +1!
kamarupa on
Don't
2 months ago
While I don't recommend it, as it really puts a target on your dorks, if you have Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy in play, a Freed from the Real on a Birds of Paradise or Noble Hierarch would generate infinite mana. There's certainly enough protection with current Instants, though, if you wanted to go that route. Bloom Tender would another solid choice to include then, if you felt so inclined.
I definitely think the manabase could be improved on. It seems there's no budget for creatures, but lands are all budget? So I was hesitant earlier, and didn't have the time either then to make a case for improvements. That said, 1x Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth is, IMO, always worth whatever mana-fixing it provides opponents. After that, I tend to prefer Botanical Sanctum, Dreamroot Cascade and Barkchannel Pathway
Flip to the perennially desired Breeding Pool
and Misty Rainforest. I just can't stand the thought of burning 3 life to get one dual land. I usually also include Scavenger Grounds just on the off chance I face a deck that likes to bring stuff back from the graveyard.
I didn't see you asking for removal spells, but Beast Within is decent, IMO, and I wouldn't turn my nose up at any deck running Pongify or Rapid Hybridization, especially if the deck is also packing creatures that can block those 3/3 gift tokens.
While it's a bit gutsy to rely strictly on mana dorks for the white mana needed to cast Gods Willing, I rather like the idea of an unblockable swing thanks to its protection.
In my eyes, the biggest weaknesses are: Opt doesn't provide any card advantage. Divination would be better, and Harmonize better still. Hydroid Krasis, as I said before, seems to fit as well and comes with the bonus of a bit of lifegain which is never bad. And that leads to the next issue - the wincons are [almost] all legendary, and therefore rightly limited to less than 4 copies each. I do like that they come with their own means of preventing removal, though. And finally, that the mana base just isn't as premium as most the spells it supports.
emask on
Conjuring Up A Flying Army
3 months ago
Love decks with birds! List is 16 cards over 100 right now.
Since you've got blue, I love the cheap costed accessible cards like Pongify and Rapid Hybridization. Sinking one mana to remove something your opponent likely paid more for is pretty great. Condemn is good here as well. Flickering Ward is a pet card of mine that isn't played too much but can be quite versatile!
kamarupa on
Lurker of the Automation
3 months ago
I don't think it's worth splashing white for it, but Dispatch is absolutely stellar in Affinity decks. Off the top of my head, Turn to Frog, Reality Shift, Pongify, Rapid Hybridization are all viable mono-blue removal spells.
For what it's worth, I'd run Counterspell over Metallic Rebuke. Counterspell just doesn't have the MV loophole and it's only 1 more to cast at most.
KongMing on
"You've Heard of Chaos Theory?"
4 months ago
Thanks for the comment and reading the description bjgivesbj! Yeah, Forced Fruition is great at flooding people with options while simultaneously functioning as a one-sided doomsday device.
I have considered Mind's Dilation and Well of Ideas before, but I haven't included them for the same reason I haven't included Eye of the Storm, they're just a little high on the CMC. I might consider putting Mind's Dilation in, but the other two are too high cost to be that symmetrical.
I have considered Grip of Chaos, but it introduces just a tiny bit too much chaos for this deck. This deck functions best when its Disruption is reliable, and Grip of Chaos just messes with our plan too much.
Cultural Exchange might work, since often this deck doesn't care about who controls the creature (like Ian), just that they are on the battlefield. But I don't know, it might be too situational to be good. (I do use this card in my Xyris deck, great in that.)
Storm Cauldron is interesting - it means if people take lands out of a Share the Spoils or Thieves' Auction pile, that those lands would end up going back to their owner. Possibly... But this might attract too much aggro our way, without us being able to actually shut down reliable play.
Shared Fate is interesting at first, but that would just turn into everyone putting the gun to my head and exiling my library when I force them to draw a bunch (like with Forced Fruition. They cast two spells and exile fourteen cards from my library? And then cast Pongify from those cards to get seven more? HA!). It has WAY too much potential to backfire once people realize what they can do. Nope.
0rc on
The Friendmaker | Talrand, Sky Summoner [PRIMER]
4 months ago
From one Talrand builder to another: always pleased to see someone keeping the Talrand torch burning!
Methinks you would be wise to add quite a bit of spot removal: Pongify, Rapid Hybridization, Reality Shift, Chain of Vapor. Boomerang, Capsize and the like are good to get rid of Reliquary Tower, etc., in response to moving to end step so your opponents feels full Gitaxias pain :)
You could add a wheel or two for maximal effect regarding that…
If you’re going to polymorph, you should consider cantrips and slowtrips to tuck Gitaxias back into your library. (See my list, as I know you are familiar with it already: Talrand Budget cEDH
You should consider adding Dramatic Reversal for a n infinite-drake scepter combo. It’s also obviously good in itself, and for infinite Capsize of opponent permanents :)
Slang on! ✨✨✨
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