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Mystic Confluence
Instant
Choose three. You may choose the same mode more than once.
- Counter target spell unless its controller pays .
- Return target creature to its owner's hand.
- Draw a card.
DaringApprentice on
Every Rose Has Its Thorns V2
2 years ago
Here are some suggestions:
Utility Lands: Bojuka Bog, Hagra Mauling Flip
Ramp: Arcane Signet, Sword of the Animist, Burnished Hart, Canoptek Wraith, Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion, Sifter of Skulls, Solemn Simulacrum
Card Draw: Laelia, the Blade Reforged, Morbid Opportunist, Keep Watch, Breya's Apprentice, Moonveil Regent, Smothering Abomination, Reconnaissance Mission, Necrologia, Future Sight, Kothophed, Soul Hoarder, Will Kenrith, Harvester of Souls, Ruin Grinder, Deepfathom Skulker, Sandstone Oracle
Targeted Removal: Rapid Hybridization, Wild Magic Surge, Terminate, Resculpt, Reality Shift, Forbid, Daring Apprentice, Transmogrifying Wand, Ravenous Chupacabra, Chaos Defiler, Glorybringer, Mystic Confluence, Necron Deathmark, Reaper from the Abyss, Rowan Kenrith, Curtains' Call, Duplicant, Meteor Golem
Board Wipes: Nevinyrral's Disk, The Phasing of Zhalfir, Whelming Wave, Ixidron, Blood on the Snow, Deathbringer Regent, Necromantic Selection
Synergy: Ghoulish Procession, Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia, Drana, Liberator of Malakir, Blight Mound, Braids, Arisen Nightmare, Fleshbag Marauder, Gravelighter, Irenicus's Vile Duplication, Magus of the Abyss, Anowon, the Ruin Sage, Ruthless Winnower, Ogre Slumlord
Threats: Quietus Spike, Elturel Survivors, Relentless Assault, Gratuitous Violence, Sarkhan the Masterless, Westgate Regent, Precursor Golem, Necropolis Regent, Walk the Aeons, Combustible Gearhulk, Embercleave, Sharding Sphinx, Angrath's Marauders
AstroAA on Should I Keep Luminarch Ascension …
2 years ago
Luminarch Ascension is just slow. I used to run it in my Sythis, Harvest's Hand enchantress prison deck as a backup method to get beaters out, and most of the time I'd play it and it'd just sit there as I'd use my mana for other things. It's not worth it most of the time.
I do not know why you aren't already running Esper Sentinel. In your deck you're running a bunch of anthems, and Esper Sentinel can easily draw you a ridiculous amount of cards rather quickly if his tax gets up to 4~5 mana. He's easily one of the best white cards in Magic, and your deck seems likely to support him. Plus he's only one mana, and you have an absolutely ridiculous CMC of 3.87 with only seven mana rocks - two of which are 4+ CMC.
My advice? Fuck Smothering Tithe. I personally think the card is overrated and is one of the most "kill on sight" cards in Magic. A quarter of the time you play it and it's countered. Another quarter of the time you play it and it gets blown up immediately. Another quarter of the time you play it and it does nothing. The last quarter of the time it does something. If you wanted to play some cheaper "kill on sight" cards to bait out counter magic and kill spells, Food Chain, Survival of the Fittest, and even something like Grafdigger's Cage against certain decks. But, take what I say here with a grain of salt - I just don't like Smothering Tithe, and I think the CMC of it won't help you that much since you don't run a lot of ramp. I'd honestly rather run Yasharn, Implacable Earth over Smothering Tithe in your deck right now.
Now, you asked for feedback and suggestions, so here are my main suggestions. I'm not sure your budget, but considering you're asking us to decide between two $20~$30 cards, I'll assume it's higher than the average Magic player's. Here is a basic list of things you can do to improve your deck:
- Go through your deck and individually look at every card in it. Think to yourself "How often do I play this card? Does this card make an impact whenever I play it? Is it just immediately answered? How does this fit into my game plan?" etc. Cut cards that you think aren't up to par or properly fit into your deck.
- Your deck seems to lack a proper direction. You say you want to pillowfort and focus on building up an army. Cards like Windborn Muse and Ghostly Prison can help you prevent people from swinging at you. If you wanted to prevent people from swinging at all, Crawlspace and Dueling Grounds can work, and you can just pop them with a Nature's Claim or something before you want to start attacking. If you wanted to focus more on the army aspect, you could go with stuff like Avenger of Zendikar, Rhys the Redeemed, or Tendershoot Dryad.
- Lower your Converted Mana Cost. You currently have a CMC of 3.87, which is rather high. In addition, you are only running seven pieces of ramp - all mana rocks - and two of them are four or more CMC, which does not help you much. Cut cards that don't do much and replace them with either cheaper mana rocks or mana dorks. A few that I immediately see that I would cut are cards like Treva, the Renewer, Skyward Eye Prophets, Empyrial Archangel, and Archon of the Triumvirate. Cards you should add are like Avacyn's Pilgrim, Birds of Paradise, Sylvan Caryatid, and Noble Hierarch. This will lower your CMC and provide additional mana ramp.
- Lands. You are currently running 38 lands, which is definitely on the high end. However, I think this is a product of having a CMC of 3.87. I think should you end up reducing your CMC to around 2.75 to 3.00 while adding in at least ~7 sources of mana acceleration you can go down to 32~33 lands, which is much more reasonable. However, I also want to talk about your land choices. You aren't running any fetches and many of your lands have a chance to enter tapped. I would look at adding in more fetches such as Prismatic Vista, Windswept Heath, Misty Rainforest, and Flooded Strand at least. In addition, I'd also look at lands such as City of Brass, Mystic Confluence, and the Battlebond lands such as Bountiful Promenade, Rejuvenating Springs, and Sea of Clouds should you reliably play with 3+ people pods. Cut cards like Seaside Citadel and the check lands, as they're kind of feelsbad turn one plays.
- Removal. You aren't running much removal to deal with threats. Cheap removal such as Nature's Claim, Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Return to Nature, and On Thin Ice are all super good in EDH. I would definitely look at improving your removal suite outside of 3+ mana counterspells. Also, look at cheaper counterspells. Cards like Mana Drain would be super good here as it provides you mana acceleration while stopping your opponents.
There is more I would like to add, such as talking more about card advantage, but I've spent damn near close to an hour typing this so I'm gonna call it here. Now, take what I've said with a grain of salt. I'm a high-powered player; I like to optimize my decks, and with optimization comes homogenization. I.e; your decks become less unique. You've got a pretty unique deck here, and if you like it then you like it. Ultimately it's up to you on making that call of whether or not you want to optimize and change everything. If you need more help, feel free to ask. Good luck, and sorry for the wall of text.
kimosabe on
Draw = ouch
2 years ago
Hello Deathkiller374, I love esper and I really love Queza. If you love drawing consider some of these cards:
Mystic Confluence, Nezahal, Primal Tide, Archmage Emeritus, and Sphinx's Revelation.
So many good options esper colors. But these are good budget options. Good luck out there. Feel free to critique my esper decks for more inspiration. :)
Guerric on
Mizzix schmizzix
2 years ago
Hi Lord_of_Cardboard! I've been playing Mizzix for many years, and she is still actually both a budget-friendly and over-powered commander at the same time when played correctly. I have a few expensive cards in my deck (mostly free counterspells to ease the early game), but if you took maybe five pricey and unnecessary cards out it would be around the same budget as yours.
The key to Mizzix, as Josh Lee Kwai pointed out when it was spoiled, is playing mostly spells and playing lots of X-Spells. The rule of thumb for Mizzix is that Syncopate is better than Counterspell every time. Because X-spells can be cast for any amount, we can always add more and more counters on Mizzix. If I counter a spell with Syncopate where x=5 and I have five experience counters, I'll pay only a but will get another counter because the cmc is higher. When I then turn around and cast Pull from Tomorrow for I'll draw six cards and add yet another experience counter. In this way you can always add more and more experience counters and draw your deck for ridiculously low mana costs, and get to your wincon. You have a few of these, but a lot more really makes the deck unstoppable.
The original precon was called Seize Control, and that is also one of the best directions for the deck, namely, playing lots of counterspells and shutting down all of your opponents' powerful plays. In addition to Syncopate we have Condescend, Clash of Wills, and Mindswipe, and while they aren't X-Spells Sublime Epiphany and Mystic Confluence can often increase counters while giving you flexibility. You have a lot of the other X-spell counterspells like Power Sink which are great and you should keep, and without the free spells it is also probably good to play good old Arcane Denial and the like for the very early game. You have most of the Blue Sun's Zenith clones, which are also really great and help with the counters.
Personally, I'd recommend cutting on creatures for more spells, which get the most out of Mizzix. I hate hard-casting anything for more than 3cmc, because I always need to have as much mana open as possible to police the board on my opponents' turns. I'd recommend cutting the splashy creatures like Niv Mizzet and even the token generators like Young Pyromancer as they just distract you from your focus on controlling the board. Reiterate (which you have) plus Turnabout is the best way to win and is easily tutorable. Once you have infinite mana you can just win with Earthquake, Rolling Earthquake, or Jaya's Immolating Inferno. In order to avoid dying to the former and having to worry about blockers (so you can cheat on creatures) you really want to get Glacial Chasm, as well as a couple of ways to tutor it (I play Expedition Map and Tolaria West).
This is just my advice, but I've definitely found the deck consistent and oppressive, and I avoid playing it too much to avoid demoralizing my opponents!
My deck is here if you're curious-
Mizzix puts the "X" in Excellence!
Commander / EDH
SCORE: 1 | 2 COMMENTS | 112 VIEWS | IN 1 FOLDER
Mortlocke on
The Queen's Egg
2 years ago
Hey abierto,
Indeed it’s been awhile since you commented, glad to hear from you. Thank you for bringing these cards onto my radar, let’s discuss them - I can easily tell that Survival of the Fittest would dramatically change the way the deck plays – with Survival of the Fittest + Dregscape Sliver on the board, access to at least 3 mana, 1 creature in hand, and at least an additional I can combo out and win the game on that turn. The only drawbacks I can see here are the mana requirements coupled with the more than likely opponent interaction that would be coming my way. Given that Dregscape Sliver’s ability is only sorcery speed – that only solidifies my concern as A simple Bojuka Bog could wreck me If I do not populate my graveyard with care and proper timing. This makes me wish that Paradox Engine wasn’t banned – I really miss that card. The verdict is out on Survival of the Fittest, I want to like to this card but I can’t help but feel hesitant in including it (let alone the investment). I think I’ll maybe proxy it in and see where that takes me. Speaking which, check out this really awesome alter:
Survival of the Fittest Sliver Alter Show
Dregscape Sliver on the other hand I’m considering including. Maybe cutting Patriarch's Bidding, as I do not like the mana investment and the potential added bonus of assisting opponents. In the metas I play in there are a lot of tribal decks – I’m sitting across from at least one or two other tribal decks every game. I’m ordering a copy today, so thank you for mentioning that card again.
Hi Sneuxfox (death by Snu snu?),
Welcome to my deck page! Thank you for posting. I’ve always wanted to work Magma Sliver into this decklist, but I don’t think it would be a good fit – Magma lends itself toward a Sliver deck that compliments a more Aggro strategy where the goal is to hit a “critical mass” of creatures and abuse enough evasion keywords to get a single creature to knock an opponent out. First Sliver's Chosen would be an absolute must include alongside Magma Sliver, as it would solidify a Voltron strategy by stacking Exalted triggers alongside Magma’s ability. I definitely agree that the aforementioned can get out hand when you have just one Sliver be the target of multiple triggers.
I agree that it's criminal that Magma doesn't make it's way into alot of lists, maybe it's due to most decks wanting to lean into the Mid-range Sliver tool box? Or maybe it's because the deck would need to be more Voltron centric? I decided to throw together a quick decklist as an example of what I think the average deck running Magma Sliver would look like:
Budget Aggro Sliver Decklist Show
What're your thoughts on the list, Sneuxfox ?
Guerric on
Fish are friends
2 years ago
I see more counter-spells going in! When trying to pick out which ones are good, the 3cmc ones that do one random other thing are usually not worth it. You want to focus on 2cmc or less and when going over 2cmc you want modal spells that give us flexibility to do other things. This will especially be good in Braids if you are leaving a lot of mana open. So rather than cards like Didn't Say Please and Broken Concentration which are just glorified Cancel spells, instead go for Mystic Confluence, Sublime Epiphany, and Insidious Will, which give us other fun options when we don't need to counter. Muddle the Mixture is also an excellent counterspell which can also be used to tutor any 2cmc instant or sorcery you want. If we are in the 3cmc non-modal space, you should prioritize Spell Crumple and Hinder, which tuck the spell safely away on the bottom of your opponent's library rather than their graveyard where they can sometimes recur it. Also, Wizard's Retort is basically a second Counterspell with your commander, so I'd go for that!
griffstick on Card creation challenge
2 years ago
Harmonic Confluence
Sorcery
Choose three, you may choose the same mode more than once
- Search your library for a land card and put it into your hand, and gain 1 life.
- destroy target Artifact or Enchantment
- creatures you control get +2/+2 until the end of turn.
Create the Confluence cycle card in one of the ally colors. Here's a list if Confluence cards. Mystic Confluence, Verdant Confluence, Fiery Confluence, Wretched Confluence, and Righteous Confluence.
Cheifettues on
Cass-a-cading Animar
3 years ago
I agree that modal counter spells are not wasted. Iv’e got Mystic Confluence and I am going to add Supreme Will and Archmage's Charm.
I quite like cards that return perms to the hand. It can benefit me as well under the right conditions. Came across Umbilicus. Going to play test and see how it fits.
On that front, there is also Cyclonic Rift. I’m reminded of all the hate ppl get for this card whenever I bring up putting it in the 99. Is it really that bad compared to... say In Garruk's Wake.
I am also going to replace Mirri's Guile with Sylvan Library. Card draw and potential top decking seems more optimal.
I will need to keep looking for a board wipe that I am fine cascading into. That is the draw back I have.
Kindly,
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