Mystic Confluence

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0rc on talrand 100 buck's

2 months ago

First off: this is a fantastic budget build. I love the dramatic/scepter combo—how quickly can we assemble it? I know you looked at my $75 budget deck and I hope you were able to gain something from it (thanks for the upvote and comment as well).

Here are my suggestions: Dizzy Spell will transmute for our hate pieces or our Sol Ring, if needed. Trophy Mage will fetch our Worn Powerstone. Alternatively, Drift of Phantasms will transmute for our Worn Powerstone, if needed. However, it is advised to have less creatures in Talrand for obvious reasons, including the following.

It will be crucial that we have rock power as quickly as possible once we have our dramatic/scepter combo pieces. This is why we should run Mass Polymorph and Synthetic Destiny. With Talrand, and a couple of drakes, we could Mass Polymorph into tutors for both all of our combo pieces at once and have them in hand.

This leads to the next area for consideration: protection. In my humble opinion, we are running a somewhat burdensome combo that realistically announces to your opponents “I’m going to win next turn.” (It’s ok, that’s my main beef with my own budget Talrand build as well). Also, once your opponents lose to this deck once, even those $2k cEDH decks seated at your table will lay the hate on you. Solution—You need more decisive and versatile countermagic to deal with the hate. Devious Cover-Up and Supreme Will are both decisive and versatile and serve purposes beyond mere countermagic. Overwhelming Denial is very decisive. Mental Misstep is a mini Force of Will. Abjure is decisive and has synergy with your commander. Void Shatter is harsh and decisive. Disrupt and Force Spike are soft, but you will be glad to have them, especially in a competitive meta. You may want to consider some oddball counters such as Time Stop. It’s too bad Cryptic Command and Mystic Confluence don’t fit the budget (or could they????). That’s maximal versatility.

Last word: by running Fact or Fiction, you are giving your opponents free reign to toss one of your combo pieces in the graveyard. Consider that. Also, is Opt really that great? I’ve been wondering about it in my own build. Also, just to nitpick and clean your title up: it’s “bucks”, not “buck’s” and you’re $5 over your $100 limit :)

I’m going to borrow some from you. Thanks.

Nemesis on Cube additions

2 months ago

White

Thraben Inspector

Adanto Vanguard

Tithe Taker

Brightling

Flickerwisp

Hallowed Spiritkeeper

Emeria Angel

Archangel Avacyn  ^Flip

Gideon Blackblade

Condemn

Council's Judgment

Legion's Landing  ^Flip

Eldrazi Displacer

Giver of Runes

Mother of Runes

Kytheon, Hero of Akros  ^Flip

Hidden Dragonslayer

Skymarcher Aspirant

Weathered Wayfarer

Soltari Foot Soldier

Blue

Looter il-Kor

Invisible Stalker

Gush

Mystic Confluence

Repeal

Chart a Course

Spellseeker

Torrential Gearhulk

Glen Elendra Archmage

Pestermite

black

Putrid Imp

Heartless Act

Languish

Gifted Aetherborn

Raven's Crime

Blood Artist

Zulaport Cutthroat

Red

Dire Fleet Daredevil

Runaway Steam-Kin

Goblin Rabblemaster

Imperial Recruiter

Terror of the Peaks

Fiery Confluence

Splinter Twin

Kari Zev, Skyship Raider

Flame Slash

Feldon of the Third Path

Legion Warboss

Abrade

Pyretic Ritual

Seething Song

Firebolt

Firedrinker Satyr

Robber of the Rich

Ilharg, the Raze-Boar

Arc Trail

Arc Lightning

Storm's Wrath

Green

Gilded Goose

Den Protector

Ramunap Excavator

Biogenic Ooze

Nature's Claim

Rishkar, Peema Renegade

Selvala, Heart of the Wilds

Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma

Thrashing Brontodon

Pelt Collector

Manglehorn

multicolor

Fractured Identity

The Scarab God

Knight of Autumn

Knight of the Reliquary

Trostani Discordant

Dragonlord Ojutai

Hostage Taker

Stormchaser Mage

Kaya's Wrath

Expansion / Explosion

Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice

Reflector Mage

Shadowmage Infiltrator

colorless

Shrine of Burning Rage

Stonecoil Serpent

Meekstone

Chrome Mox

Lightning Greaves

Eichin on Kalamaximal

3 months ago

Hier ist eine kurze Liste mit Karten welche du denke ich gut passen würden:

Copy: Double Vision, Expansion / Explosion, Primal Amulet  ^Flip, Mizzix's Mastery, Isochron Scepter, Thousand-Year Storm

Draw: Rhystic Study, Fact or Fiction, Wavebreak Hippocamp, Mystic Confluence, Return of the Wildspeaker,Thrill of Possibility, The Magic Mirror

Ramp: Springleaf Drum, Goblin Electromancer, Baral, Chief of Compliance, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Dockside Extortionist, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Mana Geyser, Earthcraft

Dmg: Ral, Storm Conduit, Guttersnipe, Soul's Fire

Cantrips: Murmuring Mystic, Young Pyromancer, Electrostatic Field, Shark Typhoon, Metallurgic Summonings, Saheeli, Sublime Artificer

Extra Turn: Nexus of Fate

Removal: Reality Shift, Cyclonic Rift, Decoy Gambit, Rapid Hybridization, Lightning Bolt, Thassa's Intervention, Chandra's Ignition

Regain: Mystic Retrieval

Heliogabale on Dana's Tribe | Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy

5 months ago

Thank you for your input Suns_Champion!

Agreed on Nullmage Shepherd. The Split Second aspect of Krosan Grip is interesting, but I may go for Beast Within instead to have a wider range of targets.

As mentioned in my deck description, I am not fond of counterspells. That is why I tried to have most of them in creature form. Is Voracious Greatshark any better? Otherwise I might be more inclined to play Mystic Confluence or Cryptic Command.

Thassa is there to stay. During playtest I have had games with her on the board and the choice of flickering Elvish Harbinger, Silhana Wayfinder or Reclamation Sage every turn, and it seemed quite worthwhile. I actually added Eternal Witness after that test. The fact that the flicker also triggers Guardian Project and Soul of the Harvest also played a role in this decision.

I think Tishana, Voice of Thunder would be awesome in here. What would you be suggesting I cut to fit her in? Same question would go for Rishkar, should I want to add him without losing Thassa.

Distant Melody is a card I wasn't aware of; it is not going to go in here, but definitely making the list for potential upgrade to Sometimes They Come Back.

Very much appreciate you taking time to help.

Bahoola on

5 months ago

Nitpicking - IN! (41 cards) Goblin Electromancer God-Eternal Kefnet Guttersnipe Niv-Mizzet, Parun Wavebreak Hippocamp Ral, Storm Conduit Ancient Grudge Arcane Denial Commit / Memory Conqueror's Galleon  ^Flip Cultivator's Caravan Electrodominance Expansion / Explosion Expedite Fact or Fiction Fire / Ice Foil Fury Storm Impulse Krosan Grip Mizzix's Mastery Mystic Confluence Nature's Claim Peek Primal Amulet  ^Flip Radical Idea Rapid Hybridization Snap Springleaf Drum Stubborn Denial Thaumatic Compass  ^Flip Thousand-Year Storm Game Trail Holdout Settlement Mountain Valley Reliquary Tower Rogue's Passage Sheltered Thicket Survivors' Encampment Temple of Abandon Temple of Mystery

hkhssweiss on Niv-Mizzet, Incorrigible Megalomaniac | Primer

8 months ago

Yo philkillpro appreciate your insight.

This deck is built towards cEDH match ups, yes it does mainly require my commander to win because Nivvie himself is a two card combo with any of the Curiosity effects. It is supposed to be slow, we are a control combo deck, we are not rushing to win asap, it's built to out tempo and control the boardstate.

In regards to Mystic Confluence it comes in and out of the deck, the same can be said for Cryptic Command, Dig Through Time, and Treasure Cruise. It all depends on my current meta and how much it interacts with the game. Yes having triple pips on blue and red in the casting cost of the commander is a downside however Nivvie negates it by not being able to be countered as well as netting at least one card draw before anything happens to Niv. I also would like to think that I do have enough sources for mana as I have 10 extra ways of producing color mana aside from my lands. In the part of also for Mana Drain and Sol Ring, they are damn good cards. It's not used for casting Nivvie faster as I mentioned earlier above, it's to out tempo your opponents. Not to mention there are certain tricks you can do like for example using Frantic Search with the excess colorless mana to untap your lands to accelerate into Nivvie faster.

As to Wayfarer's Bauble, Spell Swindle, and Lightning Greaves. The latter is a maybe, you don't want to tap out in a flash hulk meta but it does ramp so I'll take it into consideration. Spell Swindle is too slow and chances are Swindle itself will get countered, free cast spells are your best bet. For the former, our combo itself relies on having enchanted Nivvie with a Curiosity effect, with the low creature count we have, chances are there is no other creatures to equip when we decide to enchant Nivvie making it no bueno to give Nivvie Shroud.

For Mizzix it does no good in this current build and the casting cost is too high. Thanks again for your insight~

philkillpro on Niv-Mizzet, Incorrigible Megalomaniac | Primer

8 months ago

First i'm impressed by the effort you put on the description of your deck.

From what I understand this deck totally depend on your commander to win, this deck would be a good match again the red Purphoros. Since instead of putting creature to make damage you are casting spell. It is the same mind-set behing it, but your version of it seem slower. But

The amount of counter spell in your deck can be very difficult for your opponent if they don't get strong or fast enought before your commander is in play and I think this factor is very important. The fact that you can slow your opponent before your can play your commander in the same time that you cast spell to get your commander faster could be very power full. Mystic Confluence would be good in there, I think.

One weakness of your deck seem, to came from the casting cost of your commander and the fact that you don't have a lot of cards (beside your lands) that give you color mana. I think that event sol ring or mana drain are optional since that they won't get your commander faster. I recommande Wayfarer's Bauble, this one here can help getting your commander one turn sooner.I also recommande Spell Swindle this one here don't make you draw but it can be a good option the turn before you can cast your commander, plus you can decide when you want to use your mana.

And finally I recommand Lightning Greaves for ultimate protection (totally optional since you got a lot of counter spell), now if you don't have counter spell in your hand or your ennemy is using an creature that have an ability to make damage, it won't affect your commander. The only option for your adversary is to use an wipe the board type of card just to remove your only creature (that can be fun to witness).

Mizzix of the Izmagnus can have a very powerfull synergie with your commander.

Anti-sticky_keys on On your end step, I'll...

9 months ago

Hmmm... Ok deck I guess I think it could use a few more counterspells. You may want to add: Abjure , Admiral's Order , Aethersnatch , Annul , Arcane Denial , Commandeer , Commit , Confirm Suspicions , Counterlash , Counterspell , Cryptic Command , Daze , Delay , Deprive , Desertion , Disallow , Dismiss , Disrupt , Dream Fracture , Ertai's Meddling , Evasive Action , Exclude , Faerie Trickery , Familiar's Ruse , Flusterstorm , Foil , Force of Will , Force Spike , Hinder , Insidious Will , Last Word , Logic Knot , Mana Drain , Mana Leak , Memory Lapse , Mindbreak Trap , Muddle the Mixture , Mystic Confluence , Negate , Out of Bounds , Overwhelming Denial , Overwhelming Intellect , Pact of Negation , Remand , Sinister Sabotage , Spell Crumple , Spell Pierce , Spell Shrivel , Spell Swindle , Spelljack , Stubborn Denial , Summary Dismissal , Swan Song , Thwart , Unsubstantiate , Venser, Shaper Savant , Void Shatter , Illumination , Lapse of Certainty , Mana Tithe , Failure , Dovin's Veto Just to name a few.