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Land — Island Mountain
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As Steam Vents enters the battlefield, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, Steam Vents enters the battlefield tapped.
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Steam Vents Discussion
1 month ago
1 month ago
I want to go over your land base, because in the deck, it seems the most improvable (is that a word, I mean most able to be improved upon if it isn't!)
You run 30 land, which is fine, but the lands you run seem a bit strange to me:
1x Ancient Ziggurat - All colors, untapped, only works for creatures, being useless for 18 cards.
1x Bloodstained Mire - Fetchland
1x Breeding Pool - Shockland
1x Cascade Bluffs - Filter, only works for two colors, not fetchable.
1x Cavern of Souls - Five color fixer, untapped, stops counters, and works for colorless on other creatures/spells.
1x City of Brass - Untapped five color fixer, not fetchable.
1x Command Tower - Untapped five color fixer, not fetchable.
1x Exotic Orchard - Untapped fixer for some colors, not reliable, not fetchable.
1x Flooded Grove - Fixer for only two colors, not fetchable.
2x Forest - Basic, fetchable, untapped.
1x Gaea's Cradle - Only one color, untapped, taps for commonly multiple mana, not fetchable.
1x Grove of the Burnwillows - Untapped two color fixer, not fetchable. Not filter.
3x Island - Basic, untapped, fetchable.
1x Karplusan Forest - Pain land, untapped two color fixer. Not fetchable.
1x Mana Confluence - Untapped five color fixer. Not fetchable.
1x Reflecting Pool - Not fetchable, and not always reliable, can be a five color fixer, untapped.
1x Scalding Tarn - Fetchland
1x Shivan Reef - Pain land, two color fixer, not fetchable.
1x Steam Vents - Shockland
1x Stomping Ground - Shockland
1x Taiga - OG Dual.
1x Thran Quarry - Not always reliable, five color fixer, untapped, not fetchable.
1x Tropical Island - OG Dual.
1x Volcanic Island - OG Dual.
1x Windswept Heath - Fetchland.
1x Wooded Foothills - Fetchland.
1x Yavimaya Coast - Two color fixer, painland, not fetchable.
I'll order these out below, and say which ones I like or don't and give reasons.
Breeding Pool - Shocklands are very good in conjunction with the fetches, so I am glad you run all of them, with the OG duals.
Forest (2x) - I'd drop one, more room for mana fixing, such as the fetches.
Cavern of Souls - Stopping counterspells and making your commander stick is worth it alone.
City of Brass - Any untapped, non-restricted, reliable five color mana fixer is godly.
Exotic Orchard - Not always reliable, it can be kept though.
Cascade Bluffs - I don't like this in the deck because it is your worst two colors.
Flooded Grove - I do actually like this one, green and blue are way more useful in this deck than red.
Grove of the Burnwillows - like a pain land, but reversed. I think it is worth a spot.
Karplusan Forest - Painland for some of your colors. It is fine.
Shivan Reef - I'd drop it, it isn't worth the fixing when it is your least useful colors.
In all, there are my drops, then I'll say what to run instead:
1 month ago
Thought I would mention, I've found Reality Spasm works as good as Turnabout but takes a little more mana to kick-off, doubles chance of drawing the Infinite mana enabler, and can tutor the other half.
Also, as an alternative to Reiterate I also run Nivix Guildmage. As you can imagine, any combination of Turnabout or Reality Spasm + Reiterate or Nivix Guildmage, all work together, increased consistency of drawing into it, or being able to draw some parts and tutor the missing parts. Imperial Recruiter can Tutor Nivix Guildmage so can Muddle the Mixture out of interest, and both work on 3 other creatures (Muddle the Mixture works on any other CMC2 card as well).
Mana Geyser also can go Infinite mana if you play in 4-player pods regularly.
Also with Nivix Guildmage,
If one of the Islands is a Steam Vents you can get Infinite Mana. Built in Tutor as well thanks to Frantic Search. If you don't have High Tide an Izzet Boilerworks gives you the ability to use Frantic Search to Tutor any card, just doesn't give you Infinite Mana, unless you Tutor to your High Tide and cast of course (it's an instant!).
I would recommend Disallow it can handle lots of interactions people need to start their Infinite Combos, maybe delaying them a turn, or solving the issue all together.
Mana Crypt is a nice mana accelerator, quite pricey though, a Fabricate makes a nice Mana Crypt tutor (or possibly Net + with 2 Experience, can be used on a Sol Ring too or Thought Vessel if you need the no maximum hand size for some reason.
Jace, the Mind Sculptor? He's like another Cantrip.
I tried Metallurgic Summonings, I found Docent of Perfection Flip to be more utility, it's secondary ability is good but not great. Some people play Talrand, Sky Summoner, I wouldn't. To be honest, I know it's CMC7 so doesn't make any sense, but Sphinx-Bone Wand wins me games, if I can get any type of Reiterate going it's a win-con. If you have the Blue Sun's Zenith or something in your hand already then ok, but it's like another really bad Guttersnipe.
1 month ago
Have to figure out what kind-of combos your looking for, blue can easily Infinite Mana, Infinite Turns, Infinite Burn, Infinite Mill, "You win the game"... etc, usually try and focus on one to build up the synergy / consistency.
Some that I can see that would be easy,
You have Turnabout, add Reiterate an easy Infinite mana combo. Usually you'll seen enablers like Blue Sun's Zenith or Stroke of Genius, but you do have Starstorm & Devil's Play. Comet Storm is also very good because it's an Instant. If you go this way Firemind's Foresight can Tutor the win-con Reiterate + Comet Storm + Mystical Tutor > Turnabout.
Brainstorm is Instant, and puts cards back into your library, it's a must include.
Thought Vessel also good, it's a Mana source, so good, but also gives you unlimited hand size.
Mizzix's Mastery can usually stabilize later in the game too. Reality Spasm goes Infinite mana with Nivix Guildmage just as often as Turnabout does. Merchant Scroll can Tutor Turnabout (or Firemind's Foresight if you end up going that win-con tutor route)
Fissure Vent seems like a High CMC for an Artifact/Land, some specific land your after in your pod?
Assuming some of these are cards you owned/have, there are definitely some upgrades out there:
Timestream Navigator seems like a lot of work, mana, and no haste. Temporal Mastery? Is there a combo you have for this guy to recur infinitely or something? Imperial Recruiter can tutor him. So could Muddle the Mixture.
Since you have Traumatize, you may also want to consider Tunnel Vision it can tutor a card in your library, or it can hit an opponents library. With Jace, the Mindsculptor's +2 it can remove their entire library too. (or Vendilion Clique both options expensive)
A few ideas to consider anyways, cheers, +1
1 month ago
+1, nice build!
Otherwise, it looks good!
1 month ago
Your land base is not optimized. Here are some recommended changes:
The extra fetches and cantrips will also allow you to run Logic Knot if you want to, which seems good here.
2 months ago
"5 wizards in the deck and only 2 of these in the main, make it very likely you will get to have a 2 drop hard counter."
I love the deck, but come on dude, this statement simply isn't true from a mathematial/statistical standpoint. You would probably be better off swapping Wizard's Retort athough I'm honestly not sure what would be optimal. Normally I would say Logic Knot, but that's not actually very good in this build.
Regarding the land base, I would make the following changes:
Great build overall though! +1
2 months ago
meatsmith, I believe that the filter lands are awesome, some of the best dual lands in the game, other than the original dual lands and the shocklands, because they enter the battlefield untapped and also have unrivaled flexibility with the mana that they generate; for example, if a player controlled a Mountain and a Cascade Bluffs, they could cast Counterspell, which they could not do with a mountain and a Steam Vents.
izzetkid987, both Ravnica blocks have featured hybrid mana, and the first one actually introduced it, so I believe that the filter lands could easily be reprinted in a third Ravnica block.