This spell costs less to cast if you control a Wizard.
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Wizard's Retort occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.21%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
Wizard's Retort Discussion
1 week ago
Have you considered Altar of the Brood with an infinite artifact loop? Aether Spellbomb also allows you to draw your entire deck after infinite mana. Your list also excludes Cyclonic Rift and more board interaction such as Brazen Borrower. I have found that if someone resolves Grafdigger's Cage or Rest in Peace, they are incredibly debilitating unless you have a way to bounce them and then counter them later on.
Also, a very nice boardwipe to consider is All Is Dust. It removes permanents like Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Rest in Peace, and most players' entire board state. With so many artifacts in the deck, removing a couple blue permanents doesn't really feel that bad.
Another land to consider would be Riptide Laboratory. It is helpful turn 4 if you wiff on your milling and are looking for another Emry, Lurker of the Loch ETB or all of the wizard artifact tutors. Also, now that Thassa's Oracle is a thing, you can use her ETB and bounce her back to your hand for finishing the game later. Thassa's Oracle also beats Gitrog in a less convoluted way and she can be returned to your hand after milling your entire deck if you have infinite mana and are running Codex Shredder.
Hope my suggestions help! See my Emry decklist at: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/emry-mono-blue-artifact-combos-cedh-wip/?cb=1593877497
1 month ago
The deck looks good and it should be fun and effective to play, just a couple of observations:
is Swiftfoot Boots meant to protect Niv Mizzet from removal? Maybe I am missing something, but it does not seem like a necessary card in this build. Also, Spellbook costs 0 but takes a spot for an effect that you already can benefit from Thought Vessel and Reliquary Tower: I would rather replace it with a good old Izzet Signet to get some extra ramp instead.
there are many lands that ETB tapped, almost a third of your landbase and some of them without providing any additional benefit (cycling and scry are a good trade-off imo): I'd take out Highland Lake, Izzet Guildgate and Swiftwater Cliffs and replace with something more effective but still affordable such as Shivan Reef and Steam Vents or even some extra basics. Also, with a two colour deck very colour intense in the mana cost, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse and even Ash Barrens would be in my opinion better replaced by some basic lands - unless it is the shuffling effect you are looking for.
your commander is a wizard, but you have only 4 wizards in the deck, meaning that more often than not your Wizard's Retort will be just a Cancel. Staying budget, I'd honestly rather have a Negate or Dispel if you want a hard counter or Mana Leak if you prefer more flexibility.
2 months ago
Why Sprite Dragon out of all the options you have to pressure an opponent in this kind of deck. Have you considered Lightning Stormkin and/or Stormchaser Mage with Wizard's Retort and Wizard's Lightning, Brineborn Cutthroat, Grim Lavamancer, Spectral Sailor, Sea-Dasher Octopus, or Pteramander? Does the deck need Anger of the Gods or does the burn take care of creatures well enough?
I'm curious how well Light Up the Stage fits. It's an instant speed deck for the most part with some burn and creatures to activate it, but hitting Remand and Ral, Storm Conduit for example would be useless. Thunderous Wrath seems amazing when it hits but is that good enough to balance out the times it just sits in your hand? I'd prefer something like Searing Blaze, which seems to be perfect for the deck. Chart a Course also seems nice, but it's sorcery speed which sucks. Have you thought of using Curious Obsession?
2 months ago
3 months ago
Hey, thanks so much for the upvote and the comment!
I'll certainly test it!
That said, at a first glance it seems to me to be a change I'm not so sure about. Mainly cause, although it counters the spell, I get nothing in addition. That's diferent from Dispel where I'm guaranteed to have a two mana counter and maybe activate that synergy with Mystic Sanctuary. Part of what makes Ionize a decent replacement is that I gain virtual card advantage*, something that this version lacks profundly, once it doesn't have acess to draw spells... Wizard's Retort seems like in its best will be a Counterspell (and that's great), in its worst will be an underperformative Dissolve (an that's not great).
Of course empirical experience could reveal otherwise and for that I'll do the tests
3 months ago
What about Wizard's Retort instead of Ionize? You have the wizards for it and it could be a way to take advantage of the differences between your deck the non-budget version rather than just playing a less good card.
4 months ago
There aren't a lot of straightforward replacements some of the cards here (particularly time walk) and some might be a little worse and you'll definitely lose some of the synergy, but that doesn't mean we can't keep the game plan. Also this is for the modern format (what used to be extended) and not the current standard. That being said:
- Horseshoe Crab/Thieving Magpie - Still modern legal/Surge Mare also works.
- Thornwind Faeries - Prodigal Sorcerer.
- Raven Familiar - Augury Owl/Sea Gate Oracle.
- Rayne - No functional replacement that affects all your creatures/Monastery Siege might be able to serve a similar purpose of making it harder to target your permanents rather than discourage your opponent from targeting.
- Curiosity - Still modern legal
- Hermetic Study - Viridian Longbow/Sorcerer's Wand, though not an enchantment, it functions the same way.
- Soothsaying - Descendant of Soramaro
- Sigil of Sleep - No functional replacement, Gorgon Flail/Basilisk Collar might be a nice alternative here.
Counterspells. This one is a bit tricky as they moved away from the classic Counterspell and there's a lot of variety here and counters have changed a lot. So I'm just going to recommend a few to consider:
- Quash and Rewind are still modern legal
- Also Lullmage Mentor can be a pretty good finisher/cornerstone of a counter deck
- Saheeli, Sublime Artificer/Talrand, Sky Summoner can also add some nice value to play counterspells.
Well, that took a bit of time, but I hope this helps.
4 months ago
I don't like Glacial Fortress cause it isn't helping in any way. Ideal scenario is to have first 3 lands come into play untapped. When you have Glacial Fortress it's less likely to have optimal plays since you would need to play for example a hand with 2 lands, that would be 1 Glacial Fortress and one basic. If that basic land would be a Plains, and your hand would be full of blue creatures that you need to play turn 1, then you would be screwed. With Port Town that's not the case. With that said I want to keep the amount of non-Island and non-Plains lands as low as possible, so that's why I would play only 6 of them. If you want you can analyze the odds to optimize it as much as possible but I don't really have time or need since this works fine.
As for Karametra's Blessing it's really a no brainer... Gods Willing gives protection from colors which is much more versatile the maybe getting hexproof and indestructible from the Blessing. For example if you are forced by a bad mulligan to keep a hand with Alseid of Life's Bounty as the only creature you can make it potentially unblockable as well as protect it which won me games.
Counter spells are not needed for the main board since everything we would need to counter we can give protection from with our 11 protection cards and maybe the worst card that we would face could be Supreme Verdict which can't be countered. Ofc I would sideboard some counter spells but I tune make my decks to meta at my LGS, so I would need to test this deck more before I make any decisions. For now deck really struggles with burn decks which is understandable, but is really good with the rest of my local meta, for example dredgeless dredge, mono black zombies, orzhov zombies, mono green hardened scales, sultai delirium I have tested against and I won most of the games but burn demolished me. I won maybe 3/10 against burn... As for which counter spells I prefer, I would say it depends on what I want to counter. General counter spells are slow and should not be played outside control decks, and even they don't play them. Dovin's Veto is great, Mystical Dispute is great for counter wars or to defend the combo although I would also consider Swan Song as a combo protection, Stubborn Denial is also amazing in a lot of decks and if you don't play creatures Spell Pierce is also an option, Wizard's Retort could be a interesting if Wizards control deck would emerge in the future. Drown in the Loch could be amazing in a Dimir or Grixis if some bombs drop for those colors. Syncopate and Censor are also playable. Everything for 3 or more mana should not be played if you ask me, except in specific situations(Azorius control).
And good thing about this deck is that you don't need to play if as full tempo, you can wait and chill against deck that have a lot of removal since you got protection and unblockable creatures can always kill...
I hope that answers you questions. :)