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Creature — Sliver
Sliver creatures you control have lifelink. *(Damage dealt by a Sliver creature you control also causes you to gain that much life.) *
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Syphon Sliver Discussion
1 week ago
xyr0s: theres definitely good reason for slivers to be 5-color. right off the rip the decks main lords are green (Predatory Sliver), white (Sinew Sliver), and red (Sedge Sliver). Sedge Sliver requires swamps, so you might as well use some black slivers like Syphon Sliver to heal any damage from fetchlands and shocklands, or Necrotic Sliver in the sideboard. as for blue, Galerider Sliver, Diffusion Sliver, and Phantasmal Image as a 4th lord seem like a pretty strong argument.
2 weeks ago
MrJohny: it is incorrect to say "have you ever played with this list? and by this i mean tier 1-2 lists" because at that point you are literally saying "have you ever played with tier 1-2 lists" even though i know thats not what you really meant. you meant to ask if i've played AGAINST tier 1-2 lists. you do realize Phantasmal Image can basically serve as extra copies of Syphon Sliver and Diffusion Sliver right? Syphon Sliver IS an answer to burn. life gain is a hard counter to burn and when i'm giving ALL of my slivers lifelink, even a single turn with it can be enough to gain enough life that i've already won against burn. Opaline Sliver is ABSOLUTELY sufficient card draw, and stacks with Phantasmal Image. if the opponent doesnt use much targeted removal, i side it out. HOLY COW NEW CONCEPT SIDEBOARD! the deck is too slow? are you freakin kidding? control is MEANT to be slow. 8 "conditional" counter spells "doesn't do much"? what are you smoking? the only "condition" is that the spells im countering be noncreatures. and the mainboard already has plenty of ways to deal with creatures. yes its played against tier 1-2 lists, and won. because players like you are such sheep that just want to copy netdecks to the point where you dismiss anything thats not meta as being bad and you literally have no idea how to deal with something you've never seen before.
3 weeks ago
Opaline Sliver: is not sufficient card draw. It is much too dependent on your opponents decisions
Venom Sliver: I'll give you this atm death touch is annoying.
Syphon Sliver; is not an answer to burn. Every creature you play dies to bolt. And yes i know that you have Diffusion Sliver but the chance that you'll have have this in multiples consistently is not great.
8 conditional control spells in the side board doesn't do much for you.... this deck is to slow to rely on removal alone you need better ways to control the flow of the game
Out of curiosity have you ever played with this list? And by this I mean tier 1-2 lists.
3 weeks ago
MrJohny if you think that rakdos deck can beat this, stop playing magic. it would have no chance. none. at all. this deck would mop the floor with that garbage rakdos build. a creature doesnt have to be huge to deal damage. and btw, "control" does not mean "counterspells" (of which there are actually 8 in the sideboard. removal and hand disruption IS control. period. no card draw? did you not see Opaline Sliver? no answer to board wipes? again, 8 counterspells. no answer to hexproof? Venom Sliver. no answer to aggro or burn? Syphon Sliver. i literally have some form of answer to EVERYTHING you tried to say i didnt have an answer to. maybe try looking at ALL the cards in a deck and READING THEM before you comment. no deck can have an answer to literally everything.
cdkime: just because there are "2" (not a very large number) of you that "didnt see a win condition" (you do see the creatures right?) doesnt mean they're not there. Manaweft sliver is good, but it is not a "control" option. i already use Manaweft Sliver in my aggro Collected Company build, where Phantasmal Image works wonders when it can copy a lord. same reason merfolk decks use it. you also have to realize that 9 times out of 10, when an opponent targets your creature, its going to be a removal effect anyway, so the sacrifice effect of Phantasmal Image is very negligible. its just plain too good not to use.
3 weeks ago
So first off, slivers CAN be good and not broken. The key is which you use. To achieve this end, here are a few slivers that would create a more solid gameplay experience but have an at least okay deck. I can help with the others too, but for now we'll talk about this.
Anything that just buffs the team: Predatory Sliver, Megantic Sliver, Might Sliver, Battle Sliver, Armor Sliver and Barbed Sliver, Blade Sliver, Bonesplitter Sliver, Muscle Sliver, and Sinew Sliver are all pretty cool, but a standout for me, a SUPER fun sliver to play: Firewake Sliver.
Abilities that aren't too broken include Blur Sliver, Belligerent Sliver, Cautery Sliver, Gemhide Sliver and Manaweft Sliver, Groundshaker Sliver, Heart Sliver, Leeching Sliver, Necrotic Sliver, Quick Sliver, Reflex Sliver, Sentinel Sliver, Striking Sliver, Syphon Sliver, Two-Headed Sliver, Venom Sliver.
Consider making this deck pauper? It would probably limit it enough to be fair.
4 months ago
ZendikariWol I would side in for 4x Harmonic Sliver for Tron- for Burn I would probably side in for a total of 3x Syphon Sliver, 3x Diffusion, & 2x Quilled Sliver. I didn't include a sideboard here, though, since this deck is meant more for casual play than competitive, & I usually don't do sideboards when playing at home or in casual play at a shop, unless it's a tournament.
4 months ago
Hey! I am interested in your Sliver Hivelord, Homeward Path, and Syphon Sliver. My Coffers is from Torment and is in LP to NM condition. And if you have some lands I may be interested in then sure! The main stuff I am looking for, for my sliver deck can be found here