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Cumulative upkeep-Pay 2 life. (At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it.)
When Glacial Chasm enters the battlefield, sacrifice a land.
Creatures you control can't attack.
Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you.
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Glacial Chasm Discussion
5 hours ago
Have you considered Soothsaying, Nissa, Steward of Elements, Spellbook, Edric, Spymaster of Trest or even Statecraft. Statecraft is best if you can move, flicker, or bounce it; or if you have a win condition outside of combat damage because it basically makes all of your creatures Fog Bank. If you're more agro then I'd recommend Edric, Spymaster of Trest.
Glacial Chasm is another good way to keep people from agroing onto you.
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
@louisjrt No worries at all. I made changes to this deck just a couple days ago, so I'm definitely not above improving it. If you want a great resource for commander deck-building edhrec.com is what I use for a lot of ideas and then test out what I like best. So since you made so many suggestions, I've decided to give each one a quick blurb based on my experience and a letter grade for simplicity's sake.
-Arcane Lighthouse C, by my quick count there are only 8 cards in this deck that would target opponents' creatures and most of them are of little consequence, more useful in other decks
-Buried Ruin A, there are several useful artifacts in this deck and if they are destroyed or milled this can be a saviour
-Myriad Landscape C+, can be useful if you get stuck on 3 lands and need to cast Krenko, Mob Boss, but more often than not I find it slows me down because it enters tapped and only taps for colourless
-Combat Celebrant A, a good, cheap way to get an extra combat, don't expect him to last long though
-Voracious Dragon B+, good way to deal quick damage and can be a powerhouse with evasion, though it can be taken out with targeted removal and lose your goblins for almost nothing
-Paradox Engine A, great card in general, but if you have a way to generate a lot of mana and can keep refilling your hand this can be very, very powerful
-The Immortal Sun C+, solid card that provides several benefits, but I think it's better served in other decks, the cmc is a bit high for goblins as well
-Kyren Negotiations C+, can be good for getting through blockers/pillow forts or comboing with infinite untaps, usually better to attack though
-Kindred Charge B-, can be useful as a finisher, requires a fairly good board state to be worth it though
-Burn at the Stake B-, pretty much same as above
-Last-Ditch Effort B-, pretty much also same as above, cmc is a lot more affordable though of course you lose your goblins
2 weeks ago
(I don't really know how competitive you are trying to make this deck. Right now, it looks like you are running a lot of coll, spicy, fun cards! If your intent is to try out splashy mythics and game warping bombs, you should totally do it! I personally love playing a planeswalker tribal deck with Muldrotha, using Inexorable Tide to ult them quickly. However, for the sake of this comment, I'm going to be looking from the perspective of trying to make a more streamlined, synergistic deck.) Welp I'm a little late, but here are my thoughts on Muldrotha:
The Mending of Dominaria is kinda a non-bo with the rest of your deck. Its recursion isn't that strong, as Muldrotha can get back creatures and play lands, and then it shuffles away your bin. If this is meant to be a safety in in case you run out of cards (I notice there is no Laboratory Maniac, IDK if that's on purpose, so I'll assume you plan to win in a fair way.), then Elixir of Immortality should be enough. (Usually, people won't be trying to exile this.)
I notice you are running both Vedalken Orrery and Leyline of Anticipation. While individually powerful, they are also kinda non-bos with Muldrotha, as she will still only allow you to play from the bin on your turn. Generally, you'd rather maximize your recursion value each turn than hold up an instant speed creature. (Planning around having Seedborn Muse is too much work for not a huge reward, as you still can't play from the bin.)
There are several big dudes in this list, namely Vorosh, the Hunter, Void Winnower, Archfiend of Despair, and Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar. While they are all pretty good at ending games, none of them have much synergy with graveyard decks (Multani's is a little loose, as "BIG DOOD" doesn't usually kill people very well when you look at the other, more potent threats in this format.). My personal favorite of these is Void Winnower, as it nulls 1/2 of your opponents' spells, and win very quickly. While these are certainly not bad cards, big fatties aren't as good when against three players worth of removal.
Hoo boy, is Kamahl's Druidic Vow a card I never thought I'd see in a deck. Currently, you have around 16 legendary permanents, with an average CMC of roughly 5. That means to get even an okay druidic vow, you have to spend at least 7 mana. 7 mana to get ~1 legendary permanent, ~2 lands, and then to bin ~2 other cards really just isn't that great, especially compared to Genesis Wave.
The last two cards that I think might be a little sketchy are Jace Beleren and Damia, Sage of Stone. Both are fun cards, and very good, but again, don't seem to help your deck too much. I assume your reasoning for Jace was that you would mill yourself with him, but he has to survive for FOUR turn cycles before you can ult him, simply milling for twenty. Jace, Memory Adept does pretty much everything Jace Beleren does, but faster. In that four turn cycle, he could have milled almost half your deck, or drawn just you four cards and milled you for four, etc. Damia is a lot closer to being really good for this deck. She allows you to refill if your bin gets wiped a la Rest in Peace or something similar, and can solidify your winning position. However, I ultimately think that Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur does all that but better. By the stage in the game that they're relevant, mana cost shouldn't really matter too much.
Now to cards worth considering: 1. Perpetual Timepiece. 100000%. This card is repeatable mill and protection for 2 mana. It's pretty much an invaluable asset to Muldrotha decks. 2. Caustic Caterpillar. I see that you took this card out from theoriginal list, and if that was do to yuor meta/playgroup not having a heavy reliance on artifacts/enchantments, then ignore this. But most commander decks do care about them, and the overlap between it and Seal of Primordium is totally okay. 3. Pernicious Deed. This card can, admittedly, be a little awkward sometimes, as you often want to keep your support permanents around, but a repeatable board wipe like this is still very strong. 4. Sakura-Tribe Elder. This card is stupid in Muldrotha. I've had all the basics out of my deck before some of my opponents could even play their commanders. I don't think there's any reason not to run it. 5. Kiora, the Crashing Wave. She ramps, draws cards, is effectively removal, and her ult can win the game. Nuff said. (really though, she's very good, and great for early game when Muldrotha deck struggle to get off the ground with their 6-CMC general) 6. Ramunap Excavator or Crucible of Worlds. Now this is a bit of a controversial one. I'm still not entirely sure that they are worth it, but have found good results with the excavator. Basically, regardless of how many lands you can play for turn, Muldrotha will only let you play ONE from the bin (NOTE: Muldrotha won't let you play an extra land each turn (one from hand, one from bin)). So Ramunap Excavator +Azusa, Lost but Seeking will let you play three from the bin each turn, and pretty soon you have 20-someting lands on the field. Again, just something to consider, they are definitely still undergoing testing.
MEAN STUFF: Discalimer: These cards are often, to some degree, good at making the game less fun for everyone else, and sometimes you too. If you have a specific playgroup, I recommend asking how people feel about these cards first, so as to avoid uncomfortable situations of salt and dejectedness. All right, you've been warned, now, in no particular order, the mean stuff: 1. Glacial Chasm. This card with Muldrotha makes you nigh-invincible, at least to damage. (Loss of life/ "win the game" cards will still get you). Often, this card isn't perceived to badly, as most decks run some way of dealing with lands, but to a more casual player with a heavily creature-based deck, this might be upright cruel. 2. Possessed Portal. This may look like an awful card, but trust me, this is pretty good at locking people out of the game, especially with Jace's Archivist. Just make sure you have a way to survive under it! 3. Bottomless Pit. For you, pitching cards doesn't really matter (early on it might a little, but usually far less than it does for other decks.) This is good at shutting down just about any deck trying to do fancy things. 4. Oppression. This card is very well named. Often filling a similar role to bottomless pit, Oppression eats away at players, effectively halving the number of cards they can play. Except for you, of course. 5. Stasis+Claws of Gix. Claws is arguably worth including without stasis, as a sac outlet that can sac anything, but with Stasis, slaws will just lock every opponent out of the game. this is a reliable two-card combo, that requires only 3 mana, and Muldrotha to be out. However, Stasis is pretty much unplayable without Claws of Gix, so when you do play it, you basically just win, meaning that you often don't really get to "play" with stasis. 6. Smokestack. The namesake of the "Stax" archetype, Smokestack can very quickly turn a fun game of magical cards into a vicious game of french revolution, with you as the monarch. Smokestack does, I feel, get a little too much hate, as it takes several turns to really do anything. But it can quickly turn the game in your favor when you just play back everything you just sacrificed.
And that's it! I love Muldrotha decks, and how many ways there are to build them. There's not really any way to make them wrong, so keep trying new things out! I apologize for this little wall of text, but hopefully some of it is useful.
2 weeks ago
If you are looking for more defense, you could improve your land package to provide that. With all the land tutors that you run, you could add cards like Kor Haven and Maze of Ith, but most importantly Glacial Chasm. Looping that with land recursion or land bounce effects is insane. That card just wins games. You would need to cut some non-lands though for making room for the latter 2 because they do not produce mana.
2 weeks ago
Also have you thought about Glacial Chasm. It can stop a lot of non labman wins its really good against the flux wins since you can keep it around for a while and with loam you can just sac it and recur it
3 weeks ago
A fun, and very powerful, combo in these colors is Tooth and Nail + Archetype of Endurance + Avacyn, Angel of Hope. This gives all your creatures hexproof, while removing hexproof from your opponents, and gives your creatures indestructible. Basically, your creatures can't die now.
If you've got land search, may as well throw in Glacial Chasm to help you stick out through long games.
Food Chain gives you an infinite combo with your commander. While FC is in play, play your commander untapping all of your lands, exile your commander with FC and send to command zone, now you have all your lands untapped and 9 mana in your pool. Tap out your lands and do it all again for infinite mana.
Gift of Immortality is a godsend when it comes to keeping Zacama alive. Zacama will be an immediate target when it hits the board, this thing means that it'll likely stay in play for the rest of the game, without you having to spend mana, and removal causes your lands to untap.
Land Tax is a pretty solid way to ensure that you don't get behind on land drops.
Gratuitous Violence doubles your bolt damage, and essentially doubles the power of your creatures.
3 weeks ago
I'm not gonna suggest a whole lot since you're playing Kami about opposite the way I do, but I'll throw out trying Glacial Chasm, as a great way to stay safe while you do your thing. People will just attack other players. When you don't wanna pay the cost anymore, just sac it. Works well with your Vedalken Mastermind too, so you can keep resetting the cost.