Nezahal, Primal Tide
Legendary Creature — Dinosaur
Nezahal, Primal Tide can't be countered.
You have no maximum hand size.
Whenever an opponent casts a noncreature spell, draw a card.
Discard three cards: Exile Nezahal. Return it to the battlefield tapped under its owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.
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Nezahal, Primal Tide Discussion
1 week ago
The shell looks good. :)
Can you please specify what your win-con is? Since you are running Protean Hulk and Flash you should have some sort of combo here. E.g. Phyrexian Delver + Viscera Seer, fetching Hulk and sac for Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Walking Ballista. In general if you want to be competative you need some sort of way to close the game instantly.
Gravebreaker Lamia is fun, but I think it is too slow if you want to build a competative deck. You can consider Buried Alive and Life from the Loam + Barren Moor, Lonely Sandbar and Tranquil Thicket if you want a long game grindy draw engine.
2 weeks ago
I love the deck concept and your alter. You've inspired me to build something similar.
3 weeks ago
Cards I would remove:
AEtherling Does not combo with much and is not a huge impact for the cost
Deputy of Detention you are not able to pull off anything crazy like Oblivion Ring Oblivion Ring has two seperate abilities. The first ability is an enters the battlefield ability and the second ability is a leaves the battlefield ability. Because of the way to stack works, one can target a permanent with the first ability (EtB trigger) but then force the second ability (LtB trigger) to occur (through sacrificing, bouncing, blinking, or exiling Oblivion Ring) before this first ability resolves. This means that the clause where the target will be returned by Oblivion Ring will occur, but at this point Oblivion Ring has not exiled anything. Then the EtB ability resolves, exiling a permanent under an Oblivion Ring that no longer exists
Fierce Empath I would rather have straight card draw or ramp as this guy only finds 6+ costs
Gigantoplasm I would limit the clones in the deck to only Clever Impersonator as most of the time it is going to be a Win-More card but would not actually swing the game into your favour if drawn alone
Mirror Image See above
Phyrexian Metamorph See above
Nezahal, Primal Tide He is a big bomb but doesnt fit the theme of the deck, most of the time I would rather a token maker or card draw.
Wall of Omens I would limit the amount of walls as they can not attack
Wall of Blossoms See above
Cards I would add:
Tutors: lets you find any missing piece as most of your best stuff is creature based
Cultivate Ramp and thin your deck
Kodama's Reach Ramp and thin your deck
Wood Elves can abuse with blink
Farhaven Elf can abuse with blink
Recursion: a couple more options to return things from your graveyard
Elvish Visionary Card draw that can attack
Mulldrifter Card draw, plus you can evoke and save him with a blink effect.
Hornet Queen Generate a lot of flying deathtouch tokens
Prime Speaker Zegana Card draw
Sunblast Angel A reusable semi board wipe
Seedborn Muse Allows you to play out your hand and untap on their turns for counters or blink effects
Slithermuse Can lock down the game and force your opponents to draw the same mana rock for the rest of the game
1 month ago
enpc You could not be more right! I had originally done the land count with the expectation I might play lower cmc, much like M-DitzyDoo has pointed out but then as I made other changes to the deck forgot to alter my land count. I will probably want to increase this to roughly 40 I think? Unfortunately, my play group aren't huge fans of infinite combos (when there are tutors involved), we generally prefer the commander format to be more unpredictable and exciting. As for the elves idea, I actually really like that! That is a super interesting way to bolster ramp whilst having some blocking fodder if necessary and the first really solid deck I ever built when I started playing magic was elves so I know their potential. I might experiment with that in an alternate list.
multimedia - wooah, now that's some depth haha! Thanks heaps, as mentioned above, couldn't agree more about the land count and i'll take those specific recommendations into consideration. Seasons Past was actually in my original list when it was a little bit more graveyard focused but i didn't realise the insane potential when combined with Demonic Tutor !! that is so good! you'll see as i mentioned with infinite combos or infinite mana, it's not really something I'll be aiming for. Happy to go off big, but not infinitely. what i'm more or less looking for is consistency and synergy over power and competitiveness. Nezahal, Primal Tide I have seen as being a very popular creature with tasigur, and i can't deny how good it is either so I think it will definitely find room as is the planeswalkers, specifically ashiok and narset, personally. Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur i have but avoided for not having too much hate. however, a member of our playgroup has made a commander deck with him at the helm, so when i see how that is responded to, if it's ok, i'll add that for sure and with Reanimate .... my god...ahaha! Deathrite Shaman i didn't expect to be that decent because i don't really imagine being able to pull off the ramp tap much, but as for the other abilities it is amazing, i like it. I will assess what my playgroup does in terms of being able to trigger Runic Armasaur and see if it fits. great card though. and blood artist is ok not to be in the list as we don't have anything quite like that hahah! but thank you though, couldn't agree more. I would really love to hear more about your thoughts on this deck as it progresses.
M-DitzyDoo - I really wanted that sort of mentality originally but have strayed away from it. Now that it has been pointed out to me though, it really would be a good idea. I can see how the lower cmc, the more i can activate tasigur. i also agree with swapping out the specific removal like mentioned. I'll have to be a little bit more budget-oriented with it however so things like Assassin's Trophy and Abrupt Decay probably won't make it. Drown in the Loch though - i love! perfect fit.
Thank you so much to all of you so far for your help, it's been incredible feedback. i'll make some necessary changes and would love to hear what you all have to say :)
1 month ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help.
Seasons Past + Demonic Tutor is a value engine with Tasigur. You already have Demonic which is great. For control, Past can alone fill your hand up with cards and Demonic can keep tutoring for Past. You have some control over what cards you recur with Past which is excellent with a control strategy. Past + Demonic is better with an infinite mana combo, but you don't need this combo to get excellent value from the two cards.
Speaking of infinite mana combos you already have Bloom Tender which is also great and if you enchant it with Freed from the Real this can be infinite mana since then Bloom can tap for at least two colors one of which is blue which can untap Tender with Freed netting you at least one mana each time you tap Tender.
Narset, Parter of Veils , Ashiok, Dream Render , Karn, the Great Creator is the trifecta of powerful opponent disruptive Planeswalkers who are great with control. Ashiok is especially good since it can be a repeatable source of self-mill to feed Tasigur and shutting down your opponents from using most tutors is very controlling in Commander. Flux Channeler with all the noncreature spells can proliferate these Planeswalkers which is worth it.
Nezahal, Primal Tide is a fantastic finisher creature for control with Tasigur especially in multiplayer Commander. Discarding cards to protect Nezahal is good with Tasigur. Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur is more expensive price, but flash it in surprising your opponents or it's one of the best creatures to reanimate with Animate Dead . Animate can also reanimate an opponent creature which makes it very versatile for two drop reanimation in multiplayer Commander.
Deathrite Shaman is a good control creature in multiplayer Commander. Repeatable exile of your opponents or your own cards for value. Runic Armasaur can give you repeatable draw just by being on the battlefield and it has fat toughness which is good as a blocker. Blood Artist can alone shut down an opponent infinite creature combo. Gives you value when a board wipe happens since Artist triggers when any creature including himself dies. A source of repeatable life gain can be helpful.
The manabase is where you should really look for upgrades. The current manabase isn't for a $500 deck it's for a much lower budget deck. There's some good lands (Tower, Orchard, Coast), but most lands are subpar. Some lands within the budget to consider adding:
- more Forests
- Llanowar Wastes
- Underground River
- Ash Barrens
- Sunken Hollow
- Cephalid Coliseum
- Reliquary Tower
- Woodland Cemetery
- Hinterland Harbor
- Drowned Catacomb
- Twilight Mire
I offer more advice, good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
I tried to build a U/B Control deck in standard when
was still in rotation.
has... a lot of issues. In cEDH where your life total is 20, using it as a backup wincon is incredibly inconsistent, and tends to only work when your opponent is already losing by a significant margin.
EG: If you play Twilight Prophet while both you and your opponent still have 3+ cards in hand, chances are your Twilight Prophet trades with a Counterspell or some piece of removal (in cEDH, a 1-1 but you come out 2 mana behind more often than not).
In situations where your opponent is winning, Twilight Prophet is a 2/4 flyer for 4. Not terrible, but definitely not great.
In situations where you're already winning, you'd prefer a card that really ends the game, not one that slowly eeks out more value, although Twilight Prophet still gets the job done, if slowly. I'd usually prefer a straight up Lava Axe in these situations.
In a staxy situation where you and your opponent both have basically nothing, you'd prefer something that puts you significantly ahead, not just kinda slowly eeks you forward. Something like Nezahal, Primal Tide (which I know you can't run in alesha, but I'm using it as an example to demonstrate a point) would be preferable, and cEDH has far bigger/better bombs than nezzy.
Twilight Prophet plays into a couple different roles, but the problem is that it's decidedly mediocre at all of them. Don't get me wrong, I love the card and run it in my Vona, Butcher of Magan deck, but I've never really be impressed with it. You can make it work, probably even in cEDH... I just wouldn't get my hopes up too high. In my experience, using it never "feels good", and drawing it usually gets a mental "eh, could have been worse".
Whether you decide to run it permanently or not, definitely test it out, just try not to fall in love with the idea of using it too quickly.
1 month ago
Cutting the Homeward path was a mistake. It is back in the deck. It's also one of the main target for Crop Rotation along with High Market and Gaea's Cradle.
I made quite a few changes again and I mainly came back to my token version.
I also went to the dark side and included 2 planes walker...
2 months ago
Your deck's average CMC is a bit high (even for eldrazi). In addition, you have a low amount of ramp (although a fair amount of the ramp you do have is solid). The combination of high average CMC and low ramp can often result in a higher than average amount of games where the deck will not do anything productive for far too long. So first and foremost, we should find a way to lower the deck's average CMC while simultaneously increasing its ramp/mana acceleration. Secondly, we want to add more removal/disruption to the deck. Finally, we want to upgrade the average card quality. Doing these three things will DRASTICALLY improve this deck's competitiveness, speed, and power. Removal/disruption is crucial at every point of a commander game, but it is absolutely vital in the early turns of the game. This is even more true when talking about a slower deck. Being able to stop an opponent's explosive starts or protect yourself from early threats is very important. Removal allows slower decks to make it to late game where they can then take over and dominate. Animar is an incredibly powerful commander AND his CMC is very low. Casting him early provides you with an ever growing blocker/attacker that also helps you get to your bombs quicker so I think the commander choice here is an excellent one. His protection from white and black will also stonewall early aggro in those colors. So obviously I think this deck's first objective is to get Animar out ASAP. However, Animar is not invincible (although close) and he can also be countered and he is only one card (albiet one that you always have access to). So again, we need to find ways to increase early game pressure and/or protection. Below are a list of cards I'd suggest for each of those categories. I will not consider budget with my suggestions. Not all of my suggestions will be expensive tho. Although some of my suggestions are expensive cards, they will be the absolute best options for the things we are trying to improve. Also, you can always slowly acquire some of these cards over time. Even a $100 card can be acquired in 4 months without impacting your finances. You can set aside $25 bucks a month (or even every two weeks) and get a $100 card in 2-4 months. I will leave most of the swapping of cards up to you, but I will mention certain cards in your deck that I think should be directly swapped with one of my suggestions. Anyways, without further ado: my suggestions.
Gaea's Cradle – This card is expensive af (probably my most expensive suggestion) but it is a staple in a lot of commander decks. Animar is one of those decks. Animar thrives off casting creatures and Animar decks generally have lots of creatures on their board. The other ridiculously amazing thing about this card (aside from being able to tap for ABSURD amounts of mana) is that it is a land and thus doesn't consume a precious deck slot.
Ancient Tomb and Mana Crypt are monsters of acceleration and Tomb, like Gaea's Cradle, doesn't take up a deck slot. These two I wouldn't recommend as hard as Cradle and they do hurt you so I could see not including them without a certain amount of lifegain. Life doesn't matter that much in cEDH but in regular EDH life totals are usually quite important.
A fair amount of the one drop mana dorks. Your commander's colors will prevent you from being able to play Noble Hierarch , but you should definitely include Birds of Paradise and some combination of Elvish Mystic , Llanowar Elves , and Fyndhorn Elves . Sylvan Caryatid isn't a bad choice either. I persoanlly think Caryatid is better than Rattleclaw Mystic although I think the Rattleclaw is fine and probably shouldn't be cut. Many people believe artifacts are superior to mana dorks but this view isn't completely correct. Artifacts have two main strengths over dorks: they can tap the same turn you play them and they are (generally) harder to remove. In every other way however (barring specific strategies), mana dorks are better. They can chump block hits that would kill you, swing for damage, can be recurred much more easily than artifacts, and can be used as fodder for cards like Fauna Shaman and Survival of the Fittest . You can't feed a 1 mana artifact to those cards and tutor up an Ulamog but mana dorks let you do this. This is also only speaking generally. In certain decks (ESPECIALLY Animar) the payoff for running them is even greater. Paying 1 mana for a mana dork makes Animar grow even stronger and lets him discount more expensive creatures even harder. With Animar on the field, dorks effectively provide 2 mana. They raise the discount and tap for mana themselves. Animar with 3 lands and 3 dorks can let you cast something for 9 mana on turn 4! If one of those lands was Gaea's Cradle , it would allow 12 mana on turn 4!! Other ramp I'd include would be Nature's Lore , Farseek , and Cultivate . Out of these 3 I just mentioned, I'd defintely cut Explosive Vegetation for one of these. Ramp cards that you have that I would absolutely NOT cut at all are Sol Ring , Arcane Signet , Chromatic Lantern , Kodama's Reach , Skyshroud Claim , and Commander's Sphere . These cards were great choices and I would keep all of them.
URG doesn't have the greatest removal options, but there are some suprisingly good choices. Also, the fact that you have access to blue means that you can run almighty counterspells. Counterspells are just awesome and they are often the only way to beat combo decks. Animar is a very creature/aggro based deck so I am not advocating that this should be a control deck by any means. I would only recommend 3 counters for this reason: Counterspell , Mana Drain , and maybe Disallow because of its versatility. I would NOT cut swan song or negate. These two cards are absolutlely amazing and were very good choices. You don't necessarily need to add all of these counters, but I'd definitely add at least 1-2 more. If you find that you don't want to add any (I'd try not to do this) then I would swap negate with Counterspell or Mana Drain . I run negate in most decks that can run it so, again, I wouldn't cut it unless you don't want to add other counters. Only then would I swap it out.
For removal, I'd recommend Reality Shift , Beast Within , and the dreaded Cyclonic Rift . Reality shift is one of the only good exile creature spells without access to white or black. Beast within will deal with any permanent and the beast it leaves means nothing to an Animar deck. Rift is a one sided INSTANT speed board wipe that can also double as temporary removal for any permanent other than lands. An Animar deck with a full board will pretty much win the game after a successful overloaded Rift. I would NOT cut Ulamog at all because he is freaking amazing and his exile two of anything ability is really nice, especially in URG. I'd also keep Balefire Dragon. He's a one sided creature board wipe. Also with the ramp upgrades he will be reliable to cast. I'd strongly recommend every single one of the three removal options I just mentioned. Steel Hellkite is also maybe good here too but I wouldn't necessarily include it. It can potentially cost 0 mana with Animar and is one-sided.
Upgrading Card Qualtiy
Let me first list all the cards here currently in your deck that I would cut. Then I'll suggest some better cards IMO. For creatures I would cut Ancestral Statue, Avatar of Slaughter (this card looks cool but is more of a fun chaos card then a reliable good card. Its 8 mana and can often backfire on you and get you killed. An 8 mana card shouldn't do this), Bearer of the Heavens , Eldrazi Mimic , Endless One , Forgotten Ancient , Hooded Hydra , Pathrazer of Ulamog , and Tromokratis (he is powerful comapered to some of my other cut suggestions, but as you'll see below, there are superior creatures that cost less mana). Assuming you take any of my suggestions, make sure that if you cut one of these creatures you replace it with a creature I suggested. You have 35 creatures in this deck which is actually a very good number for Animar so you should still try to maintain the 35 creature count.
I like your land base but you need at least 35 lands (maaaaybe 34 if you add a bunch more ramp). Your base and colored mana access is good so I will recommend utility lands here. Also don't forget about Gaea's cradle that I mentioned earlier. Anyway, consider Yavimaya Hollow , Alchemist's Refuge , Oran-Rief, the Vastwood , and Kessig Wolf Run . Hollow protects your creatures, refuge lets you play any nonland card at instant speed (many applications for this!), Vastwood buffs your board and provides synergy with the +1/+1 counter cards, and wolf run will let Animar 1 or 2 shot people for lethal commander damage. Again, here I wouldn't cut any of the lands you currently have. You just need to add a couple more lands, that's all.
Noncreature, nonland cuts I'd make would be Death's Presence (overcosted for what it does and can be played around), Forced Adaptation (slow and gives card disadvantage if the creature its on is killed) Frontier Siege (not actually a bad card but its only worth it if you have lots of fliers and not too great at ramp since its 4 mana), Rage Reflection (this card really isn't bad but I think its kinda expensive at 6 mana and slow), Explosive Vegetation (mentioned this earlier), Guided Passage (your opponnents get to see your entire deck which is BAD and you can't assume they will ever get you anything good unless both of you have a much more dangerous mutual enemy. Its also worthless in 1v1), and See the Unwritten (just severely overcosted and not very good).
Here are my suggestions finally. Note that I won't re-mention the earlier suggestions from my previous sections (ramp and removal), but don't forget those.
Creatures I'd consider including would be Kozilek, Butcher of Truth (I would directly swap this with pathrazer. It is much more powerful, has better stats, a better annhilator AND costs less mana. Plus it draws you cards. Directly making this particular swap will also slightly lower your average CMC), Consecrated Sphinx (I'd directly swap this for tromokratis. It will lower average CMC, and although it's smaller than tromo, its flying will allow it to deal damage more often than tromo. The main reason this card is busted is its draw ability. Even having this live for only two turns will win you the game by burying your opponents in card advantage), Kalonian Hydra (I'd directly replace this with Hooded Hydra as he grows WAAAY faster and buffs other creatures aside from himself provided they also have +1/+1 counters. In combination with Oran-rief, he can start buffing creatures that normally wouldn't have +1/+1 counters on them. Finally he's gross with Animar), Etali, Primal Storm , and Nezahal, Primal Tide (another big card advantage engine and can be infuriating to try to kill). Other good support creatures that help with smoothing your draws, providing various support, and/or removing things would be Keranos, God of Storms , Thassa, God of the Sea , Nylea, God of the Hunt , Genesis (he provides never ending creature recursion and is VERY difficult to stop from the graveyard much like anger, brawn, and wonder), Fauna Shaman (survival of the fittest's lesser creature cousin. Survival and fauna shaman are absolute musts in Animar because they work so well as tutors and Animar decks have high creature densities. They also combo disgustingly with genesis, anger, wonder, and brawn), and finally Eternal Witness . Eternal witness NEEDS a place in this deck. It should be in any deck with green and it is also one of the top 7 most played cards in the whole format according to EDHREC. It also is disgusting with genesis. Also note that Thassa, Keranos, Nylea, and Nezahal all resist board wipes and allow you to retain some semblance of a board state following a boardwipe. Keranos and Nezahal also draw you cards so they even help with the rebuilding after a wipe.
Noncreature stuff to consider would be Survival of the Fittest (already explained why it should be included hopefully. It's a fauna shaman that can be activated any number of times per turn instead of only once and is more difficult to remove), Seasons Past (just an insane value card that goes back in your deck and can even get difficult to recur cards like instants and sorceries), Doubling Season (high $$ card but it works really well in your deck with all the +1/+1 counters) Rhystic Study (this even sees play in cEDH like mystic remora. People will not often pay the 1 mana. If they do, they have taxed themselves. Either you draw more cards or tax your opponent's spells. It's a win/win. Also, unlike remora, it stops all types of spells and doesn't require a cumulative upkeep. Make no mistake however, remora is still AMAZING). My last and final suggestions are tutors. Tutors are so important in commander. Too important too ignore. You aren't running any that I can see. URG doesn't have the greatest tutor options but they have some really good ones. I already mentioned fauna shaman and survival of the fittest. Others I'd try hard to slot in include Green Sun's Zenith , Finale of Devastation , Mystical Tutor , and Worldly Tutor .
Anyway, I hope I have been helpful. I tried to mention the cards that I think should absolutely find a way into the deck, but also keep in mind that not all of my suggestions are a must. Again, we just want to lower the average CMC, increase ramp and removal, and upgrade card quality, (like hooded hydra >> kalonian hydra). Good luck and overall a very cool deck! You have my upvote good sir.