Mountain Valley

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Mountain Valley

Land

Mountain Valley enters the battlefield tapped.

, Sacrifice Mountain Valley: Search your library for a Mountain or Forest card and put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.

DreadKhan on Korvold Sacrifice

1 year ago

There are lots of options to help fix your mana that have been printed, some of the handiest are those that can dig out a land, and lands that make more than 1 colour. Both are very useful, some effects can even dig out 2 or 3 colour lands, but these are pricier in most cases. Some budget options include Jund Panorama, Riveteers Overlook, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Mountain Valley, and Rocky Tar Pit (the last two can find non-Basic lands, this includes Woodland Chasm, Highland Forest, Sulfurous Mire), Cinder Glade, Smoldering Marsh). Blighted Woodland can find other land types if you have Green already, Myriad Landscape can find Green (or another colour), finding Green is usually important because of cards like Cultivate, and Kodama's Reach, these ramp you but can also find you a needed land type. There are also even better options (arguably) like Farseek, Nature's Lore and the pricier Three Visits, these can find non-Basic lands, making them very useful. I always liked Harrow, it can find 2 different colours of land if it's helpful, there is also the lesser Roiling Regrowth. Since your Commander is at 5 mana, you might even include stuff like Skyshroud Claim or Circuitous Route, there are more but they aren't as popular due to costing 4 mana (you can get stuck on 2 or 3 lands).

A pair of random cards that might work for you are Midnight Reaper and Grim Haruspex, both draw cards whenever your creatures die, and cost very little mana. Another couple randomly useful creatures Dockside Chef, Skullport Merchant, and Mayhem Devil, which are certainly gotten pricier but is still extremely good.

Happy deck building!

Spirits on

1 year ago

Hey Zorke,

Ok based on your comment about the combo, I'm basing these recommendations on a:

Tuned tier - Power level 5 (6 usually has a combo) - Win before Turn 14 - "Upgraded Precon". Visual Guide to Power Levels in EDH.

-- Land Base -- Prioritize untapped, Mana colors, Target 33: +Shivan Reef -Island +Yavimaya Coast -Forest +City of Brass -Aether Hub +Mana Confluence -Mountain Valley +Riverglide Pathway  Flip -Simic Growth Chamber +Rootbound Crag -Mountain +Hinterland Harbor -Forest +Sulfur Falls -Mountain +Rejuvenating Springs -Path of Ancestry +Training Center -Rogue's Passage +Spire Garden -Ancient Ziggurat +Boseiju, Who Endures -Island

--Ramp-- Creature preferred +Birds of Paradise -Thought Vessel +Three Visits -Heraldic Banner +The Great Henge -Gilded Lotus (Also important for draw) +Farseek -Harvest Season

--Morph-- +Kadena's Silencer -Stuffy Doll +Icefeather Aven -Keep Safe (Morph flavor) +Echo Tracer -Omnath, Locus of Mana (Morph flavor) +Mistfire Weaver -Forsaken Monument (Morph flavor) +Jeering Instigator -Shaleskin Plower (Morph flavor less salt)

--Draw-- +Fathom Seer -Zendikar Resurgent +Temur Ascendancy -Tomb of the Spirit Dragon +Tishana, Voice of Thunder -Ashcloud Phoenix +Guardian Project -Tidespout Tyrant +Toski, Bearer of Secrets -Fabricate +Garruk's Uprising -Creeping Renaissance

--Offense other than Animar-- +Garruk's Horde -Forest +Artisan of Kozilek -Island +Bane of Bala Ged -Trophy Mage (Pulls 1 unneeded artifact!) +Shrieking Drake -Temur Sabertooth (Non-Infinite Ancestral Statue) +Decimator of the Provinces -Temur War Shaman

--Control-- +Beast Within -Fog

I've left out some salty card for this power level: Cyclonic Rift Ancestral Statue Craterhoof Behemoth Rhystic Study Mystic Remora Dockside Extortionist

Special mention (would need to playtest): Secret Plans (Draw) Solemn Simulacrum (Ramp & Draw) Mulldrifter (Draw) Trail of Mystery (Ramp) Rhythm of the Wild (Don't think you'll see heavy counterspell in power 5)

Could go more less if needed Theres other stuff I didn't suggest because of the morph theme, like Cloud of Faeries, Hullbreaker Horror, Fierce Empath etc.

Hopefully you find some useful ideas here.

ILuvMtg on

1 year ago

Alright, here’s some suggestions.

Enter the Infinite + Omniscience. I can’t imagine my deck without it. Also add the slow fetch lands like Mountain Valley, etc. Cast Through Time and Lightning Greaves are a couple more.

thefiresoflurve on Land Windgrace

1 year ago

I think Riveteers Overlook would be a small upgrade (1 life) over Evolving Wilds / Terramorphic Expanse. You could also rock Maestros Theater over Rocky Tar Pit, and Cabaretti Courtyard instead of Mountain Valley.

One thing to note is that the Capenna lands won't be able to find your Overgrown Tomb / Cinder Glade like your current dual-color fetches can. Still, I think the extra landfall triggers in the same turn warrant the replacement.

eliakimras on Obuun big lands

1 year ago

If you're still upgrading this deck, you might consider some more fetch lands to increase your landfall triggers: Bant Panorama, Jund Panorama, Cabaretti Courtyard, Brokers Hideout, Riveteers Overlook, Mountain Valley, Grasslands.

multimedia on Stomping Counters

2 years ago

Hey, I saw your forum topic asking for help.

The manabase and ramp/color fixing could use some tweaking, but more draw is really what your deck needs. That's the area of your deck to consider spending some on for improvements.

I choose these cards as suggested cuts because you have better cards that do the same or similar effects. More draw especially repeatable draw sources replacing some of this redundancy could help gameplay.


The manabase is overall good except the amount of Forests, which is too many. The ratio of color sources in the manabase is 28 green:16 white:16 red. 28 green is almost double amount of another color which is a little much. Forests are important, you want them as most lands, but I don't think you need 12 of them. Green one drop mana dorks are good, but I don't think only three of them are enough to play so many Forests to hinder the other colors in the chance that you have one in your opening hand with a Forest. Crop Rotation can get any land by sacing a Forest.

Some manabase problems are 12 Forests, the Slow Fetch lands, Aether Hub, Arctic Treeline and Highland Forest. 12 Forest reduces the color fixing from lands too much. Grasslands, Krosan Verge, Mountain Valley are too slow for what they do and are not needed because you have Marsh Flats and Windswept Heath.

Aether Hub is relying too much on three cards that proliferate or Aetherstorm Roc. Consistently Hub won't have enough energy to make colored mana. Arctic Treeline and Highland Forest are nice that they have basic land types, but you don't really need them because you have Shocks and Tangos.

Consider cutting some basic Forests for more budget lands that can make green or another color?

Making these lands changes can balance the ratio of color sources to 26 G:20 W:20 R. This balance keeps the amount of green close to what you have currently while increasing the amount of white and red. Of course most of these are the least expensive price playable lands that you could add. There's many others that are more price/better lands.

Good luck with your deck.

Unlife on Stomping Counters

2 years ago

Temple of Abandon, Temple of Plenty, Temple of Triumph, Brushland, Battlefield Forge, Karplusan Forest, Cragcrown Pathway  Flip, Needleverge Pathway  Flip, Branchloft Pathway  Flip could all fit into your manabase. I know you have a budget of about $5 per card, and i believe most of them other then Brushland are at or below that range.

I can see how heavily your deck is weighted toward green, but my instinct is that you have a lot of enter tapped lands that don't do anything when they enter tapped. Temples could at least provide 2 colors and scry you a card, but things like Grasslands don't thin out your deck enough to be worth losing a turn.

My recommendation is to cut 3 forests, Grasslands, Mountain Valley, Aether Hub, Alpine Meadow, Arctic Treeline, Highland Forest for the 3 temples, 3 pain and 3 pathways. With new caperna dropping, you can also cut a forest for Jetmir's Garden when its released.

Apologies for the wall of text, I hope it helps.

Mortlocke on The Queen's Egg

2 years ago

Hey abierto,

Indeed it’s been awhile since you commented, glad to hear from you. Thank you for bringing these cards onto my radar, let’s discuss them - I can easily tell that Survival of the Fittest would dramatically change the way the deck plays – with Survival of the Fittest + Dregscape Sliver on the board, access to at least 3 mana, 1 creature in hand, and at least an additional I can combo out and win the game on that turn. The only drawbacks I can see here are the mana requirements coupled with the more than likely opponent interaction that would be coming my way. Given that Dregscape Sliver’s ability is only sorcery speed – that only solidifies my concern as A simple Bojuka Bog could wreck me If I do not populate my graveyard with care and proper timing. This makes me wish that Paradox Engine wasn’t banned – I really miss that card. The verdict is out on Survival of the Fittest, I want to like to this card but I can’t help but feel hesitant in including it (let alone the investment). I think I’ll maybe proxy it in and see where that takes me. Speaking which, check out this really awesome alter:

Survival of the Fittest Sliver Alter Show

Dregscape Sliver on the other hand I’m considering including. Maybe cutting Patriarch's Bidding, as I do not like the mana investment and the potential added bonus of assisting opponents. In the metas I play in there are a lot of tribal decks – I’m sitting across from at least one or two other tribal decks every game. I’m ordering a copy today, so thank you for mentioning that card again.

Hi Sneuxfox (death by Snu snu?),

Welcome to my deck page! Thank you for posting. I’ve always wanted to work Magma Sliver into this decklist, but I don’t think it would be a good fit – Magma lends itself toward a Sliver deck that compliments a more Aggro strategy where the goal is to hit a “critical mass” of creatures and abuse enough evasion keywords to get a single creature to knock an opponent out. First Sliver's Chosen would be an absolute must include alongside Magma Sliver, as it would solidify a Voltron strategy by stacking Exalted triggers alongside Magma’s ability. I definitely agree that the aforementioned can get out hand when you have just one Sliver be the target of multiple triggers.

I agree that it's criminal that Magma doesn't make it's way into alot of lists, maybe it's due to most decks wanting to lean into the Mid-range Sliver tool box? Or maybe it's because the deck would need to be more Voltron centric? I decided to throw together a quick decklist as an example of what I think the average deck running Magma Sliver would look like:

Budget Aggro Sliver Decklist Show

What're your thoughts on the list, Sneuxfox ?

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