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, Pay 1 life, Sacrifice Scalding Tarn: Search your library for an Island or Mountain card and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
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Scalding Tarn Discussion
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A bit of background. I have all the non-basic lands for the Jeskai color scheme except for two copies of Sulfur Falls and a playset of Scalding Tarn. I have a Watery Grave and two Blood Crypt for the Grixis landbase, and can trade my Flooded Strands for Polluted Deltas. I have Flooded Strands and two Hallowed Fountains for the Esper landbase. I can sell my Jeskai lands to a friend who is looking to build Jeskai Nahiri. Given that, which color scheme would be the best overall to build a midrange/control deck around? Thanks a lot! You guys are lifesavers.
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so you will probably see more aggro than anything. i normally see tron, affinity, burn and then white blue control normally. the first thing i noticed about the deck is that you have 8 counter spells when this isnt even a control deck. i suggest
the sideboard and mana base need a bit of work but this should be a pretty solid deck for a local fnm. if you dont like it i suggest you look up temur traverse because thats probably the strongest and most reliable temur deck for modern right now.
2 days ago
Last of the suggestions. Again I know it's a lot but i wanted t show that you have options and point out what some of them were:
2 days ago
Ok for 2 platers you can afford to get a bit more aggressive. This may sound obvious but you are going to want to unload the 20 damage you need to win as quickly as possible. To that end there are 2 things to keep in mind:
1) keep cmc low: cards like Grave Betrayal are nice but at 7 mana your opponents life total should be relatively low and you would rather have direct damage or more creatures to finish them off. Cards like Vile Requiem that arent useful into late game are also iffy
2) your life total is irrelavent. The longer the game goes on the less likely aggressive decks will win. As such don't fell bad about paying some life.
here are cheap creatures to beat face with: Carnophage, Diregraf Ghoul, Firedrinker Satyr, Goblin Guide, Jackal Pup, Vampire Lacerator, Rakdos Cackler, Ash Zealot, Bloodghast, Blood Scrivener, Crimson Muckwader, Dark Confidant, Dauthi Slayer, Hellspark Elemental, Keldon Marauders, Rakdos Shred-Freak,Spike Jester, Young Pyromancer, Shambling Remains, Hell's Thunder, Anathemancer. I'm not saying you need to include all those cards but cards like that are nice. I's worth noting that they are efficient for their mana cost which is where aggressive decks want to be. The game plan can be attacking with cheap creatures and finishing them off with burn.
This means you want your lands to be able to come in untapped. assuming you don't want to buy a Badlands, there are still other lands that can tap for both colors and come in utapped like Blood Crypt, Dragonskull Summit, Blackcleave Cliffs, Sulfurous Springs. If you have in your deck the fetchlands (Bloodstained Mire/Polluted Delta/Wooded Foothills/Verdant Catacombs/Marsh Flats/Arid Mesa/Scalding Tarn) you can always fetch for your one-of blood crypt.
Burst Lightning is a strictly better shock.
Sorry if this was long but I hope this helped. I think your deck is a good start but just needs to be a bit faster.
2 days ago
Hey man! Sure, I'd love to help. Not sure how on budget are you, and since you have some pretty darn expensive cards I'll make sugestions based on that. If it just happens that you had the cards from before and don't have too much to spend, just tell me and I'll give another options.
Well, I'd start by adding more lands. Always play Between 35 and 40 lands in your deck, unless it's an mono G elf deck that can go lower, or a deck that want lots of lands like Tasigur, Gitrog Monster or Omnath RG. Steam Vents, Watery Grave, Blood Crypt, Badlands, Underground Sea, Volcanic Island. Fetchlands would be perfect Polluted Delta, Bloodstained Mire, Scalding Tarn, Misty Rainforest, Marsh Flats. Check lands, Filter lands and Painlands. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, High Market, Academy Ruins and Tolaria West as utility. Prioritice on lands that come into play untapped.
I usually don't consider cards like Phyrexian Altar or Cathodion as a ramp because it's not going to ramp you over the curve. I consider them as combo piece or sac outlet. That being said, add more ramp like the signets, Mana Vault, Mox Diamond and Chrome Mox for fast mana. Expedition Map would be awesome to grab that beautiful Mishra's Workshop.
As for the combos, the first thing is Nim Deathmantle and Ashnod's Altar. Those two can go infinite with TONS of cards, like your Wurmcoil Engine: Sac wurmcoil to add 2 mana, triggers on the mantle and the wurm dying. Put the tokens onto the battlefield, then sac one of them for 2 mana (now you have 4 mana in your mana pool). Use the mana to reanimate Wurmcoil with the mantle. Repeat again for infinite tokens (with deathtouch?), and since you have infinite tokens, you also have infinite colorless mana. This works with any creature that enters or leaves the battlefield with two or more tokens. It also works for infinite mana with your Cathodion. These combos with your Disciple of the Vault win immediately, although I prefer Blood Artist because he helps you to stop other players that wants to go infinite sacrificing creatures. Krark-Clan Ironworks is also a good sac outlet that gives you mana.
Triskelion goes always side by side with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed. Remove one counter to ping for 1 to your opp. Remove the other two to shoot Triskelion itself. It dies with no counters in it so Mikaeus brings it back now with 4 counters. Hit your opponent for 2, then hit Triskellion for 2, repeat for the win.
A combo deck loves to have tutors to win fast. Keep in the Forgemaster and the Transmute, and add Tezzeret the Seeker , Demonic Tutor, Fabricate, Whir of Invention, Arcum Dagsson, and the mages pack Trinket Mage, Trophy Mage and Treasure Mage.
For the controling part, this deck needs more actual control and removal. Damnation, Toxic Deluge, Blasphemous Act, Vandalblast, Counterspell, Counterflux, Force of Will, Pact of Negation, Slaughter Pact.
As for what to take out, there are a lot of cards I see there that don't do much for the strategy but this is up to you. My suggestions on what to take out would be: Golem Artisan, Hellkite Igniter, Hellkite Tyrant, March of the Machines (unless you put the Mycosynth Lattice to land lock your opponents xD), Breaker of Armies, Conqueror's Flail, Silent Arbiter, Library of Leng, Genesis Chamber, Gravepurge, Moltensteel Dragon, Clone Shell, Bearer of the Heavens, Burn from Within.
Man, that was a wall of text xD tell me if you have any questions.