Creature — Sliver
All Slivers have ", Sacrifice this permanent: Destroy target permanent."
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|Premium Deck Series: Slivers (PDS)||Uncommon|
|Planar Chaos (PLC)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Necrotic Sliver occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%
Necrotic Sliver Discussion
1 day ago
Hey NV_1980, thanks for the complement and input! I'm glad you like the deck! Yeah I've been considering adding some more (creature) board wipes as the only one I am running currently is Cyclonic Rift (well, I guess Necrotic Sliver sort of is as well once I go infinite but that doesn't really count as once I go infinite I've most likely won). Any cards in particular you would recommend? I feel like in this deck they either have to be low CmC or have multiple modes so I have some flexibility on how to use them and I just haven't been able to find any options that I really like other than rift.
Honestly the three main reasons I'm not running many right now are because I'm trying to keep my curve as low as possible, because with this being a five color deck and me only running half the fetches and some utility lands I get nervous about double color pips in mana costs, and because ideally I'm comboing off regardless of others board states so I usually look to race them and just go faster so I don't need to wipe. That being said, just today I played a couple games with this deck and in one of them I came up against another sliver deck and I would have killed for a board wipe at that point hah and with all my fixing maybe I shouldn't be as hesitant to add things with double color pips as I am. Any thoughts on what 1-2 cards you might cut to try and fit another board wipe or two?
I definitely think not having a lot of wipes is one of the three biggest weaknesses of the deck. The other two being a lack of good card draw (though I sort of make up for that by having a lot of tutors and the simple fact that in a combo deck I only need a few specific cards) and the fact that because I'm running so many combo pieces and tutors for them I don't have quite as good defense (targeted removal, counters, blockers, etc.) as I would like. That being said, I think these weaknesses are pretty common to combo decks and the deck having some clear weaknesses also makes it not as oppressive to play against so maybe that is for the best.
2 months ago
For the sake of formatting, I'm just going to make lists for what I would cut and add respectively, but it's really personal preference.
What I would consider banishing:
Tainted Wood - The deck doesn't have a lot of swamps.
Memorial to Unity - It enters tapped and only produces one colour, so there are other things your deck could do instead.
Viridian Zealot - a bit costly for what it does.
Vampire Hexmage - You don't seem to really abuse it, so it can be lacking.
Tribute to the Wild - It's kind of restrictive and doesn't always get rid of something relevant.
Merciless Eviction - Your deck doesn't really want to exile its own stuff, so other wraths that destroy instead are preferable.
Vraska, Relic Seeker - This seems costly for what she does, but she has her moments.
Evolutionary Leap - It can be powerful, but all of your creatures seem huge and worth keeping around. It's best to run this with more fodder in the deck.
Whip of Erebos - This is up in the air. I don't enjoy the exile clause of this card, but it's instant-speed and efficient, whilst offering life-gain. Your choice.
Acidic Slime - It's an expensive effect, but a powerful one at that. You already have other five-drops in Sidisi, Undead Vizier and Thalia's Lancers so perhaps it's worth exclusion. Declaration in Stone - It's a bit restrictive for its cost and a sorcery, so I don't think it merits a deck slot.
What I would consider adding:
Grisly Salvage - Essentially takes a land slot with other worth in the later turns, stocking the graveyard.
Satyr Wayfinder - Can be fodder for your sacrifice shenanigans and a land for the early turns (hopefully).
Ransack the Lab - Fills the yard and draws a card. That rhymes, so it's fantastic. However, it only goes three cards deep, so it may be unreliable at finding a land. I'm yet to miss, but it's possible.
Altar of Dementia - This is just a ridiculous card that gives you options for the graveyard later and scales with your large creatures. Great defense, too, and a massive threat.
Perpetual Timepiece - This is great for decks that are all-in on the graveyard plan, so maybe not. It doesn't draw cards, but it grants other routes.
Unburial Rites - If you mill it over, it's still castable. Even if, it gets two things back.
Dread Return - Efficient reanimation and the same from the graveyard.
Buried Ruin - Recursion in the land-base is always lovely.
Ghostly Prison - With high-cost creatures, this can aid in surviving the early game.
Anguished Unmaking - This card almost always relevant, cheap, and instant-speed. It's a safe option that hits everything.
Necrotic Sliver - It is recurrable universal removal, so it could be rather effective.
Swords to Plowshares - One mana and an instant, it's far too potent. I'd add this.
Despark - This can be efficient, but restrictive. I've found success with it, but it comes down to preference.
Assassin's Trophy - If it's within budget, this is as good as it gets.
Vindicate - Hits it all and does it all.
Rampant Growth - Ramp and more ramp.
Wood Elves - Fodder and ramp.
Explosive Vegetation - Lots of ramp.
Paradise Druid - Fodder and ramp.
Lots of fodder, lots of ramp.
You can really customize your own removal, but you already have many ways to deal with creatures, so removal for other permanents is ideal.
That's what I have for you. Now wreck them all.
2 months ago
Ah, yes. Graveyard strategies always have an enthralling nature to them. Excellent choice in commander, as well.
I do have some recommendations for the deck.
One deck-building scheme I adhere to is fewer lands in place of cantrips. For your deck, you could cut some of the land base for Satyr Wayfinder and Grisly Salvage . They possess more value later in the game whilst filling up your yard for Karador. Ransack the Lab fulfills the same role. Taping the mana base towards early game cantrips also makes it more consistent to conduct your early game.
Altar of Dementia can earn you value even if a creature would die, permitting more options later.
You speak of win conditions in your description, thus I note Mortal Combat . That's a tricky build-around, so good luck there. Mindslicer is in my discard deck and often locks down the match, though people may not enjoy that.
As for removal, Anguished Unmaking , Despark , and Vindicate are universal and efficient, and Swords to Plowshares is quite possibly the best kill spell in the format. Ghastly Demise is also fun. If you wish to sacrifice creatures for gain, Angelic Purge is of use and Necrotic Sliver may be brought back later. Leonin Relic-Warder and Ravenous Chupacabra serve a similar purpose.
With such a high mana curve, more acceleration in ramp could be of aid. Outside of Temple of the False God and Phyrexian Altar which need some set-up before they do anything, there are only seven cards for ramp. I would add Birds of Paradise or Paradise Druid , some mana dork in that essence; Kodama's Reach , Rampant Growth , or Explosive Vegetation ; and perhaps Songs of the Damned as a one-shot influx of resource.
That is all from me, my apparitional liege. Fare thee well, and rejoice in haunting.
2 months ago
The biggest fix you can make to this deck is with the lands. You have too many lands that enter tapped (tri lands, vivid lands, etc.) or set your mana back a turn (lairs). Consider adding more rainbow lands (lands that produce all colours), such as Mana Confluence .
Ghostflame Sliver does not really seem to do much for you, other than be something the three-mana slivers can cascade into.
3 months ago
To start, I disagree with a few of shadow63's cuts.
Dormant Sliver is a powerhouse, allowing for extremely explosive plays where you draw and play Sliver after Sliver. The downside is significant, but between Necrotic Sliver and your own removal spells, it is pretty easy to kill your own Dormant Sliver and remove defender.
Sedge Sliver would work a lot better if you had a number of fetch/shock lands, but it still pulls its weight in a budget deck. The ability to save any sliver from dying is invaluable.
Amoeboid Changeling allows you to take other players' creatures using your commander.
I do agree that you can probably cut Tamiyo (unless you have a sacrifice-heavy meta). Ashnod's is a great card, but, with Gemhide turning your slivers into ramp, you do not really need it.
Here's some other cuts I would recommend:
Aether Vial - outstanding card in 60-card constructed Slivers, since the overwhelming majority of your slivers are exactly 2 mana. Its effectiveness in singleton, however, is a bit lackluster.
Even though your commander benefits from Training Grounds , I do not think you have a critical mass of creatures with generic-requiring mana abilities to make Training Grounds worth a slot. Same goes for Heartstone .
Bring to Light is a bit too much mana for its effect. I do not think you need it.
Next we get into cutting your underperforming slivers. You probably should get rid of 16 or so of your 44 creatures.
Here's a few I would certainty remove:
- Syphon Sliver - lifelink isn't all that exciting of an ability.
- Synapse Sliver - solid ability, but you have better card draw, and five mana is pretty heft.
- Opaline Sliver - You have enough tutors that it should be easy enough to find Crystalline Sliver instead.
- Lavabelly Sliver - too low of an impact.
Beyond those, look at the mana costs of the slivers, and try to cut some of the higher-costed ones. Sure, they have great abilities, but slivers work best when you're dumping a large number of them onto the field as quickly as possible. Focus on the ones that have strong combo potential or work to protect key combo pieces.
Frankly, you can probably stand to cut some of the pure pump/combat slivers, such as Sinew Sliver . Sinew and its friends another card that excels in 60-card constructed, when you can run 12 total pump slivers; it singleton, three is just not that big of a deal. Sliver Legion already provides you a strong way to aggressively close out games--you don't need a bunch of worse versions of that effect.
4 months ago
Too slow and WAY too expensive to play. Counters are way more cost effective. 10 cmc would make Ulamog just be a dead card in my hand more often than not, and can't be tutored as easily as say Necrotic Sliver
My eldrazi deck is Selvala protohype [cEDH]
I don't wanna collide the ideas ;)
6 months ago
the majority of slivers that people play in modern will only affect their own side of the board, which means your statement "opponents Sliver abilities will stack on our swarm of 1/1 Slivers" is actually pretty inaccurate.
also, Dormant Sliver will just enable your sliver opponent to just keep drawing cards until they have an answer to it. Homing Sliver will let them get their Necrotic Sliver to blow up your Dormant Sliver .
Screeching Sliver will just let your sliver opponent mill you.
should definitely use more lands if you wanna use cmc 5 cards. theres no guarantee you'll draw a mana sliver.
Quick Sliver is not modern legal.
as someone who has played 5C slivers in modern for over 3 years now, i can safely say that this build wouldn't stop my slivers. i run Aether Vial and Collected Company , which allows me to drop slivers faster, and i also run plenty of buffing slivers ( Predatory Sliver , Sinew Sliver , Sedge Sliver , and Phantasmal Image to copy them) which guarantees my slivers are bigger. so unless you're lucky enough to get a turn 2 Manaweft Sliver followed by a turn 3 Dormant Sliver , i'm gonna win too quick for your plan to work. even then, i'll just grow my army while gaining tons of life off my Lavabelly Sliver (which could also just kill you on its own if you try to stall too long, since its affect stacks with itself, and i have Phantasmal Image to copy it). then when you finally blow up your own Dormant Sliver , i win anyway.