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Counter target spell. If the spell is countered this way, remove it from the game with three time counters on it instead of putting it into its owner's graveyard. If it doesn't have suspend, it gains suspend. (At the beginning of its owner's upkeep, remove a counter from that card. When the last is removed, the player plays it without paying its mana cost. If it's a creature, it has haste.)
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3 days ago
Hmmm... It's FAST, but what's the idea? It seems to be Isochron + Dramatic Reversal/Paradox Engine into AEtherflux Reservoir. That or Big mana into draw your deck and Lab-Man win. If I'm missing something, please let me know!
Overbeing of Myth seems like a "meh" card in my opinion. It seems way out of place and slow for the deck build. I feel like another counterspell to support your very tall tower would be better suited. Voidslime and Disallow are super versatile, while Negate and Delay are cheaper, but will protect most of your pieces long enough to go off.
Now for some strictly Better replacements (for cheap!):Nature's Spiral-->Regrowth (Get ANYTHING back instead of just a permanent!) Also Consider Reclaim and/or Noxious Revival to set up a good card for Rashmi to mini-cascade into.Slight of Hand-->Preordain. Strictly better as you could possibly dig one deeper. You may run them both, though, I imagine.
Finally, A nice trick with your commander is the 0-CMC cards with suspend are cast for free without suspend! Ancestral Vision and Lotus Bloom are the big ones for your deck (I don't think Hypergenesis Really fits the build, though!). They also can be early plays when you're not ramping for value mid-game.
I hope that was of SOME value. Happy Flipping!
3 days ago
By any means, Wizard's Retort should be strictly better than Disdainful Stroke in your deck. When it comes to your maybeboard Cursecatcher, Spell Pierce and Syncopate don't seem like they deserve inclusion as the "paywall" they give your opponent isn't really relevant in a commander game where everyone has an abundance of mana; the only "paywall" counter that might be worth it could be Censor as it serves the early game utility purpose, but can cycle when it becomes irrelevant in the late. Aside from that Delay seems kinda bad and Muddle the Mixture might not be worth it, unless you're looking for something specific. I would imagine there isn't much of a difference between Unwind and Negate in your deck, so the former might just serve a better purpose. I reckon you can rethink Desertion as it is basically a Mind Control that is devastatingly situational for the same cost; if you already want to get rid of the MC, you might as well give the boot to this thing. That would open some really good space for Force of Will. I also think it's pretty easy to replace Confirm Suspicions with Pact of Negation. If you're looking to play Mana Drain, I also suggest Spell Swindle for the flexibility. I think the weakest remaining link in your counters base should be Dissolve, after that you can side out an exile counter if you're looking for space, starting from Faerie Trickery.
Lemme know if you want more suggestions, cause I've already written a wall of text, and I don't wanna flood your comment section :DD
2 weeks ago
both deadman and I play basically the same deck (I copy his HW as I don't get enough serious games in to innovate). The basic aim of the deck is to tax people just enough to slow them down and throw out hate cards that hinder your opponents disproportionately more than they hinder you. Finally, you try to counter other threats while building card advantage or assembling a combo. That's really how the deck intends to win. Although you can win quickly with the list, it's pretty rare. I'd say you're looking at turn 6 to 10 most of the time. Trying to combo right out of the gates is usually pretty dumb.
Arbiter in most metas can be played as 'soft lock' or 'value-control' as you said, but tends to draw tons of hate from most players as unfun. At higher levels of play, that's not really an issue any longer, but aiming to play 'soft lock' or 'value-control' doesn't work all that well.
When it comes to the cards you suggested, I don't like any of them for arbiter.
The counters you run in arbiter should be as lean as possible while not being too narrow or weak. That's why you'll often see arbiter decks have stuff like Arcane Denial, Dispel, Flusterstorm, etc. The deck lists above doesn't really have the time to sit and draw tons of cards and try to play a reactive counter-based gameplan. That's going to fail miserably. Counters should be something you can sequence into your turn cycles so that you're always doing something productive on your turns. Unwind seems nice on paper, but too often you'll be faced with the decision to hold up the counter or play something relevant on your mainphase. Cheaper counters are great. For players that don't have that much money and can't afford cards like Mana Drain and Force of Will, I recommend cards like Arcane Denial. Delay, Negate, and even Memory Lapse. Cheap and unconditional is ideally what you want.
As for Damping Sphere, it's a tad narrow. I also like some other hate cards over this thing that target the same decks. Ethersworn Canonist, Rule of Law, etc. Still, if your meta is filled with decks that are annoyed by this card, you can run it. Arbiter is blessed with the ability to run a ton of flex cards that are often dedicated for hate. However, many of the hate cards aren't broad enough. For instance, there are games where Grafdigger's Cage is insanely good and others where it's a terrible card. One of the weaknesses of the deck is that it's prone to drawing hate cards that may not be ideal at facing down opposing strategies.
Teferi, Hero of Dominaria is a powerful walker and it would be nice to have one out for several turns, but it's a little too hard to protect. You generally want more consistent cards. I love Narset Transcendent. I actually used to play this deck in a league a while back and ulted her twice the night I first bought her. In some metas, walkers can stick on the field reliably. However, I found it to be really hard to defend walkers. I've since dropped her but I can't bring myself to get rid of her from my collection. Teferi's really in the same boat.
If you want more draw, I've recently been playing Windfall in my list and liking it quite a bit.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Good deck otherwise
1 month ago
This is a sweet list, +1 from me! I play almost exclusively cEDH on trice via the cEDH discord, you should join us over there if you're not already. How has Sorcerous Spyglass and As Foretold been for you?
So my initial thoughts on my small critiques of the deck:
Molten Psyche seems like an odd choice. Am I missing part of the combo with it? I don't think any cEDH deck wants to win by making your opponent's draw cards.
I think Frozen AEther is a pretty bad stax piece at 4 mana. But I know your a bit short on options in UR. I've heard of Smoke being some nice tech against creature heavy decks (i.e. selvala brostorm, blood pod, etc)
Dissipate is pretty bad, I don't think you ever want to be playing 3 cmc counters. I'm not sure you need the extra counterspell when you are already running 14. Remand and Delay are a bit suspect as well in my experience, although have niche functions.
Mana Maze. I love this card to death, don't get me wrong. However, I've played too many games where it's backfired on me. Once fast combo blue players figure out how to use it to their advantage, it becomes a double-edged sword. Casting ad nauseum, holding priority, and then casting a Brainstorm means they have an uncounterable naus. This card is too chaoticky for my liking in stax.
Mana Web. This card is alright, but i've never been very impressed with it for 3 mana. It's not the worst choice but certainly not the best. I think it's replaceable.
Thought Vessel. I really think this deck is hungry for colored rocks - even if that means ETB tapped. Isochron+reversal needs both blue and red mana to win you the game, which can be a little tricky.
Adds to consider:
Ponder and Preordain - these cards are surprisingly powerful. Being able to keep sketchy hands is a huge plus and these cards are never dead, outside of a rule of law effect. I've added them in my lists and haven't looked back. There's a reason why they are legacy staples, even more so in a 100 card singleton format where you need to dig for tutors, answers, or combo pieces.
Fellwar Stone: this should be an auto include in any cEDH using rocks. One of the best imo, always solid. Easily replaces thought vessel in my book.
Paradox Engine: You have some easy combo pieces you can shell into this list and this is one of them. Goes off with Isochron Scepter and a variety of random cards like Winds of Rebuke (if you swap it with into the roil), Capsize, etc to go infinite. There's the ol' infinite swans stuff as well if you have Copy Artifact. This is a fat card but certainly extremely powerful.
Transmute Artifact: a 2 mana tutor to find part of your combo is extremely good. I don't think you can leave home without this one, especially since you are so artifact heavy. Even Fabricate wouldn't be a terrible choice. Izzet is really hurting on tutors, even more so when you have a 2 card wincon.
Kindred Discovery: I think this is one of the spicier tech options with your commander. Goes infinite and wins you the game. It's fat and clunky, but a 1 card wincon with your general. I'd think it would be a solid back up plan to drama stick.
Hope this helps and the list overall looks very solid. I really like the deck and can tell you put a lot of work and thought into it. It's refreshing to see something new float around :). Nice work!
1 month ago
All the comments, luther's in particular, make sense to me. As for the counterspells that remain, I would suggest that Spell Swindle, Spell Pierce, and even Forbid aren't ideal. You should definitely run Delay (mmm mmmmmm that flavour) and Swan Song, Dispel, Arcane Denial, or Disallow.
2 months ago
Well, I really like the eldrazi package and ashiok, quite a good combo, but the deck can suffer - you have few sources of card advantage and draw, mitigated by your options being more powerful and you are quite prone to drawing the wrong answer at the wrong time. But I like the deck, it does decently at my more casual modern FNMs. But there is one thing for sure - Delay is a beast with processors.
here is what ilguale is talking about: