Fiery Confluence

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Commander Anthology 2018 (CM2) Rare
Commander 2015 (C15) Rare

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Fiery Confluence

Sorcery

Choose three. You may choose the same mode more than once.

  • Fiery Confluence deals 1 damage to each creature.
  • Fiery Confluence deals 2 damage to each opponent.
  • Destroy target artifact.

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Fiery Confluence Discussion

hkhssweiss on Rakdos, Lord of Riots Prototype Deck

1 week ago

Alright can definitely give you some ideas than Salinas29!

Since you are playing in large pods some cards that can definitely help you would be:

Now for the big creatures that can provide additional utility effects, here are some cards that can be considered:

Importantly as well is to have some early game plan, ramp, CA, and utility spells. Here are some cards that can be also considered.

The best route if you want to inflict a lot of pain is going for the big Eldrazis but I won't list them as they are quite expensive even after the reprint in UMA. If you can pick them up than definitely go for it! They are absolutely filthy creatures that would make people cry :3

Aside from that feel free to ask for any additional help, I love helping people tune their decks!

mmcgeach on Xantcha Combo-Control

1 month ago

Updated with Fiery Confluence kill in the Bonus Round scenario. Bonus Round + Fiery Confluence is a lot of damage.

A55Destroyer69 on The Fat Red Line - Purphoros EDH

2 months ago

one better on Fellwar Stone would be Mind Stone. The difference between them is that fellwar will quite possibly be tapping for, essentially, colourless mana and that's it. Mind Stone, on the other hand, will tap for colourless mana AND can draw you a card if you start to flood. This cannot be done with Fellwar Stone, and since you have 36 lands that add R in some way, you're probably never going to need it to tap for ...

Also, there's a bunch of stuff in the deck that either isn't needed or there's far better substitutes -

Some cards you may want to put in the deck instead would be:

or, for a less budget-friendly approach:

By the way, Insurrection and similar effects steal your opponents' creatures, and then, unless the opponent has an Avacyn. This basically means that you get to steal all of your opponents' creatures, and then destroy them ALL (from targetting yourself with Mogg Infestation) and then that's almost always a "I win the game" synergy.

Zealous Conscripts is an infinite combo piece with kiki, since his ability is unconditional, meaning your stuff, your opponents' stuff. you basically get infinite mana if you have an Ashnod's Altar out, and you also deal infinite damage with Purphoros out.

kiki-jiki is just generally great in Purphoros EDH, since you can copy your Emrakul's Hatcher, SG Commander or Solemn Simulacrum (also thins deck and draws cards) each turn.

Vandalblast is generally good removal in red decks, as it's a one-sided artifact wrath, and if not it's just a Shatter, which is still not bad. Fiery Confluence is kind of the better-but-worse version of this, as it's more versatile, treated as a pyroclasm effect, or as additional pings from purphoros, or as artifact removal, just...less.

Solemn Simulacrum is generally decent - gets a land out of your deck, draws a card when it dies. Not much bad.

Panharmonicon is AMAZING!!! basically, you play an emrakul's hatcher and you get 2 triggers, giving you +1 mana potetial, and then you got 7 creatures into play, so that's 7 triggers from purphoros... but he's also ETB, so you get 14 triggers

-> that's 28 damage from 5 mana

Goblin Warrens isn't really that amazing, but you basically get +1 goblins, and 3 triggers for , which can just slowly eat at your opponents' life totals.

Empty the Warrens is also kind of similar, as you'll only ever really be playing it for 6-8 goblins, but that's still a solid 12 damage for 4 mana (value).

Kher Keep is quite similar, as I find with my deck that there are often better options at hand (literally. hehe...), but it is still, I guess, an emergency situation, last stand sort of thing, where you have just such dead draws, and so you just get to ping for each turn.

If you feel like your deck still doesn't get to a comfortable position with its mana, you can consider the following:

These cards will surely help you out. Although Gauntlet of Power will also potentially benefit your opponents, should you really care if they're just going to die in a few turns? Probably not. For just less than Caged Sun. Essentially, based of what I just stated, Gauntlet of Power is better (and Gauntlet of Might is best - less again XD).

in addition to the Gauntlet effects, you could add in this little series of mana rocks. Mind Stone can replace Fellwar Stone, for reasons stated previously, but then on top of that, there is Hedron Archive, which can draw you 2 cards, and Dreamstone Hedron draws 3. I don't really think that the two expensive ones really conform to the deck as well, but they're still considerations, I guess.

So, most of these cards aren't really that exciting. Avatar of Fury is pretty solid, but doesn't really interact with Purphoros much, apart from being a creature...

Guttersnipe definitely doen't fit in. You're running 23 spells, and I'd say that you'd need to run closer to 40 spells to consider him.

Young Pyromancer is just in the list because of my own personal thoughts on him, and I don't really think he's that fantastic in a "creature etb" deck like purphoros. He does make tokens, so all your spells essentially have +2 damage to opponents, but again, there are only 23 spells in the deck. If it was something more like Zada, Hedron Grinder, where he relies on going wide with creatures, that's a little different.

Devastating Summons is also kind of dodgy in this deck. You sacrifice some lands for 2 creatures. I'd much rather sacrifice X lands for X creatures.

Now, don't get me wrong. This deck is a burn deck, but normal burn spells, such as Sizzle are not very good. This is commander, where each player gets 40 life. Burning with 3 damage from such effects will take ages, and there's only so many unique ones. You're best off replacing it with something that will further your gamestate, such as kiki-jiki, Panharmonicon or Impact Tremors.

Mass Mutiny is kind of fine. The problem with it is that it's only one creature, when you could take every creature, without targetting. This means that your opponent can't protect their creatures from getting stolen without using countermagic. Also, stated above, Insurrection + Mogg Infestation is an almost guaranteed game-winning play, which can't really be done with just 3 more creatures.

Scour from Existence is unconditional removal that gets past Avacyn, but is really quite expensive - 7 mana to exile a creature. If it really requires this to get rid of it, you've messed something up...

Conjurer's Closet is kind of alright, but it's really not that fantastic. You would be best taking it out for a tutor, such as Goblin Matron, Imperial Recruiter or Gamble. These cards will help you find more stuff, like kiki-jiki, SG Commander or others that will be just as, if not more, effective than whoever is already in play.

Endless Atlas is fine, if you want to pay so much mana just to draw a couple of cards. I use Mind's Eye, which may be more expensive to cast, but it's cheaper to draw, and also can draw more than just 1 card each turn.

Madblind Mountain is interesting, but not necessary. It does let you shuffle your library (for whatever reason), but apart from that, it's just a slowland. You can tutor it up with a panorama, but what does it actually contribute to?

Zaane2 on Neheb's Eternal Havoc

2 months ago

@ThaneGarrus Including Neheb himself, there's only 9 creatures in my deck. Things that affect multiple creatures aren't as great as you think for me. The only creature that really matters is Neheb, and turning him into a 6/7 causes him to generate a lot more mana and he becomes a tad tougher to kill through blocking. If I had to make a swap, I'd probably run Lightning Greaves before Fervor for the added protection. As for Heartless Hidetsugu, I don't think he's actually that great of a card. I run him more because he's a lot of fun and causes a lot of havoc. I also yearn to live the 1-shot dream with a damage-doubler in play, but he's never lived that long :(

@Skydra2 I actually don't think there's enough instant/sorcery cards to benefit Past in Flames. I've tested it out in the past and at least half of the time, you draw into Past in Flames without enough graveyard fuel. It ends up being a dead card much too often. The Looting effects are mainly to loot past excess lands when I'm going off; not to discard spells to be recurred later. I'm looting to dig for gas, not for any additional graveyard value.

@Driemer84 Mox Amber is a relatively new inclusion. I find myself wanting slightly more mana after playing Neheb and I'm testing to see is Amber can help me with that. The goal of the deck is to cast Neheb ASAP, so Amber would be online most of the time in theory. I wanted a permanent source of mana for the mid-game rather than something temporary like Desperate Ritual. I don't have a Mox Diamond because I can't afford one haha. If Amber doesn't work out, I'll probably swap it with my budget $4 Lotus Petal.

Personally, I really like AoE Burn spells that can deal with small utility creatures. I used to run dudes like Guttersnipe, but things like Earthquake, Rolling Earthquake, Slagstorm, Pyrohemia, Flamebreak, Fiery Confluence, and Chandra's Ignition always kill everything smaller than Neheb. I found that my utility pingers kept dying to my own firestorms and weren't generating all that much value. I'm sure your Firebrand Archer and Magus of the Moon would be more beneficial if you ran other things like Sizzle and Fanatic of Mogis instead. Nothing like shutting off your own Blood Moon lock by killing it yourself. Aside from Neheb and Artifacts, I don't generally have a lot of permanents for Fanatic to benefit from. If your build focused on more utility pingers and creatures/enchantments, he'd probably be more useful. However, for a 4-mana burn spell, you'd want him to be on the level of Fiery Confluence with the amount of mana he generates.

If you want to view a build that is more utility-based, Cobblepott's Artifact Storm is a better representation of what that might look like without the Earthquakes. Firebrand Archer gets much stronger the more cheap Artifacts you run.

Combustible Gearhulk was fine, alongside Chandra Torch. You can't really abuse Gearhulk's flip like a Daretti, Scrap Savant deck could, even if you run Past in Flames. It's generally not smart to give the Mono-Red player cards, so don't expect people to give you that often. Gearhulk didn't feel consistent enough for me. Chandra Torch only generates 6 mana whereas Flamebreak generates 9 mana for 1 less CMC. I tried her for a long while, only removing her today in fact, and I personally didn't feel like she ever did enough. She's another card in the fine category where it's personal preference, but I wasn't that impressed, unlike the All-Star Koth of the Hammer.

Neheb generates strictly Red Mana and can't pay for the <><> in new-Kozilek's CMC. I find that drawing 4 cards with a remaining Annihilator 4 body in play on old-Kozi has worked well enough.

More experienced players tend to let your burn spells resolve, holding their mana to counter your huge Comet Storm instead. I've never had a player attempt to counter a Flame Rift. If they did, it's because that alone was going to kill them. I've got plenty of more burn spells where that one came from.

hotschmalz on Firesong (13.10.18)

3 months ago

Also find room for Righteous Confluence Fiery Confluence Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant Blaze Commando Radiate Jaya Ballard Braid of Fire Dictate of the Twin Gods Runechanter's Pike Dualcaster Mage Dual Casting Reiterate

goodair on Pseudo EDH staples

3 months ago

Vicious Shadows is just plain disguising with prossh!!
Mirage Mirror is super sweet aswell!
Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Tower of the Magistrate and Fiery Confluence are some cards I've never seen other people run for some reason.

Sheld on Vial Smasher & Kraum, the Evil Couple

4 months ago

Hi NV_1980,

I've found some time to update the deck based on your suggestions;

  • I've removed Fate Unraveler from the deck as you suggested. I've replaced him with Phyrexian Tyranny instead of Underworld Dreams mainly because the UBR cost feels a bit better than BBB cost as I worry I would struggle to have three black mana earlier in the game.

  • I've added one boardwipe as you suggested. I didn't use Volcanic Fallout because it's too unversitale and I didn't use Fiery Confluence mainly because I just don't feel like buying an unnecessarily expensive card if I can replace with a cheaper boardwipe. I've settled with Evacuation for now. I may replace it with a better boardwipe or one that fits the theme of the deck better later. I'm still considering Pyrohemia.

As for the other cards you've suggested;

  • Repercussion is a ridiculous card which I will have to try at least for the fun of it; it will probably not find a permanent place in the deck though as I feel like it would "undermine" all the work the rest of the deck did in the game by just ending the game with Blasphemous Act and it wouldn't really matter what happened in the game before. (It's difficult to explain what I mean but I hope you somewhat understand what I mean.)

  • Wound Reflection is an excellent addition to the deck; I just don't feel like buying it because of its cost for now. The deck will have to suffice with Archfiend of Dispair.

  • Other your suggestion were all reasonable but I did not use them mainly because I play in a very casual meta with my friends so my decks can be a bit more fun and casual aswell. (For example, I don't have to worry that much about extremely consistent fast aggro decks etc. :-)

Sorry for the long answer; I wanted to explain my decisions.

Regards,

Sheld

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