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Llanowar Wastes Discussion
5 days ago
Do you get land screwed, color screwed or unable to play cards a lot of the time because lack of mana production? The Avg. CMC for this deck is 4.6, that's really high without playing any ramp. No Sol Ring? I'm kind of confused, do you not like ramp in Commander? Some of your Planeswalkers can ramp, but that doesn't help you if you can't play them.
My suggestions are to add ramp and improve the manabase by cutting a large portion of the come into play tapped dual lands. I understand that Planeswalkers are price expensive and they take up a huge portion of the total cost of this deck, but the manabase is really bad. It would help the deck a lot to fix it.
You're playing green you can advantage of land ramp spells. You can accommodate land ramp by cutting a large portion of the come into play tapped lands such as Elfhame Palace and other lands like it for Basic lands. For a budget manabase with green you're much better off playing more Basic lands and cards that can tutor for the Basic lands then lots of come into play tapped dual lands. The Tri lands are great: Arcane Sanctum, Seaside Citadel, Opulent Palace and Sandsteppe Citadel, but these lands are powerful enough that coming into play tapped while bad is fine. This will speed up over all game play because Basic lands enter play untapped. Other lands to consider are the BFZ duals: Canopy Vista, Sunken Hollow and Prairie Stream. The BFZ lands have good interaction with both Basic lands and Check lands, Sunpetal Grove, etc.
For a budget $30-$40 manabase I suggest playing:
- The four Tri lands
- Four Pain lands: Caves of Koilos, Llanowar Wastes, Underground River, Yavimaya Coast
- Four Check lands: Sunpetal Grove, Glacial Fortress, Isolated Chapel, Drowned Catacomb
- Three BFZ duals: Canopy Vista, Sunken Hollow and Prairie Stream
- Two Filter lands: Sungrass Prairie and Darkwater Catacombs
- Command Tower, Exotic Orchard, Forbidden Orchard, Ash Barrens, Dreadship Reef, Opal Palace
- 5 Plains, 4 Forest, 2 Island, 2 Swamp
Dreadship Reef is a land that uses counters, great with Atraxa. Opal Palace is good with Atraxa because if you use it to play her she gets a +1/+1 counter which she can start proliferating, growing herself.
I recommend this manabase and adding a ramp package of:
- Cultivate, Farseek and Kodama's Reach
- Sol Ring, Fellwar Stone
- Everflowing Chalice and Astral Cornucopia
Cornucopia and Chalice use counters which Atraxa can proliferate making these rocks pretty powerful. Even though your playing some board wipes that destroy all artifacts I still think having some artifact ramp is important to play Planeswalkers. It's more important to have the mana to play Walkers than wipe the board.
To make room for these ramp packages I recommend cutting some of the less powerful Planeswalkers because holy shit there's 28 total of them. Walkers like Jace, the Living Guildpact, Nissa, Voice of Zendikar, Kiora, the Crashing Wave, Gideon, Champion of Justice and Dovin Baan. Also Praetor's Counsel and Primal Surge are just too mana expensive for the deck. Nevinyrral's Disk, Decree of Pain and Terminus are too slow and your playing a lot of other better cheaper mana board wipes. Terminus while powerful needs some set-up to be, Brainstorm and you currently have no malipulation of the top of your library.
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
This deck is fine as it is, but if you want to shift more into competitive, ambassador oak cost too much mana for what it does. If you look at your curve, you are very low on 1 drops. That is a problem I see here, as elves are really low to the ground, and known for their very low mana costs.
Running mainboard hate, unless it targets every single other deck in your meta, is generally considered to be unwise, as instead of casting a 3 mana removal spell, you could've just cast another elf to help you win. Basically, it is better, game 1, to be advancing your strategy, than to try to disrupt your opponent, unless that is the sole purpose of your deck. An elf deck is generally always creature heavy, and doesn't require mainboard hate.
Below are some steps I'd take to polish this deck up, as your average CMC is way too high for the amount of lands and mana sources you have. Sorry for making this really long, but please bear with me.
-3 prowess of the fair
-2 aerial predation
-2 aim high
-2 essence warden
-1 nissa's chosen, as it isn't that good without nissa revane, which can't be hit by collected company. You can keep this in if you still want to run nissa's.
-1 ambassador oak
-2 cylian elf
-1 soul of the harvest
-1 gilt-leaf ambush, as elves are low to the ground and generally always lose clash anyway.
-2 elvish promenade, which will be explained somewhere below
-hunting triad, as it is just a worse version of elvish promenade
-the two nissa's.
-5 swamp, as they do not help you cast green cards, which are the majority of your spells.
-4 forest, which will be explained later below.
Now you only have 11 lands. I suggest you run around 18~19 if you want to be more aggressive, or 20~21. Lets go with 19, as that is still more aggressive, while staying safer.
You'd need 8 more lands for that. Now, this is where I explain why the 4 forests and the swamps were cut. You generally want to make all your black sources dual lands, as you rarely ever want to have swamp as one of the few lands in your opening hand. That only causes you to make unnecessary mulligans. I'll suggest 8 dual lands on the cheaper side, but if you want, you can always change to more expensive ones.
Now that you have 19 lands, you have 25 spaces in your deck to fill up with nonland cards.
These are some ideas, you can always add in other options.
-3x Elvish Mystic You want a lot of 1 drop elves in an elf deck
-4x Heritage Druid. They combo really well with the next card, as well as letting you have an awesome turn 3 win.
-3x Nettle Sentinel They have a great body, and are just great overall. 4 can be a bit too much sometimes.
-2x Elvish Archdruid These are really powerful, and are necessary.
-1x Dwynen's Elite These are very great, as you get 3 power/toughness split among 2 bodies for the cost of 1 (of course, this is only because you have a heck ton of 1 drops).
-2x Collected Company These are really powerful, as you can get 2 elves all at instant speed.
-3x Chord of Calling. This is where I will explain why we cut elvish promenade. It is a really powerful card, and one of my favorites, but is overkill, doesn't work with collected company, and is not as good as chord of calling. Chord is another place where heritage druid shines, as each of these essentially lower the cost of chord by 1 (as they tap for convoke, then untap right after). Chord of calling also lets you tutor for your sideboard creatures, or even any other elf, all at instant speed.
-2x Elvish Visionary this card is really important. Elves lack card draw, and this guy provides some.
-1x Ezuri, Renegade Leader not as important, because with 4 coco and 3 chord, if you want these, you can always tutor. even so, Thoughtseize, Inquisition of Kozilek, and other hand disruption will always be able to steal ezuri, so running 2 is safer.
Earlier, we moved 9 cards from your mainboard into your sideboard. Now, we'll be cutting some of those cards out of your sideboard, as they aren't that necessary. The full sideboard I'll put here is
-2x Essence Warden Great card overall, having this keeps you from dying from every heavy hitter. Also prevents you from dying from any lifeloss.
-2x Prowess of the Fair this card is really interesting. although you could use its synergy with Rhys the Exiled to some extent, its main power is to protect you from a single wrath effects. Also helps with Shaman of the Pack, as Prowess of the Fair is an elf.
-2x Thornweald Archer. You ran many anti flying cards mainboard, so I put this here. It serves a similar purpose, having reach and deathtouch, and is an elf, allowing it to be tutored, hit by coco, or to make mana off of Heritage Druid or Elvish Archdruid. Can also be used as a deathtouch attacker if need be. Very versatile.
-2x Creeping Corrosion against any artifact heavy decks.
-2x Abrupt Decay, or even 2x Fatal Push. the second option is more expensive. really depends on how many death's shadow decks are lingering around your LGS. decay is less effective against that, but has a wider range of targets, and is a better sideboard overall.
-1x Nissa Revane since you really like nissa, this is the one you should use. Is actually modern playable.
I hope some of this helps! If you have any questions or concerns, you can leave it on my wall userpage thing. +1 from me. Have a great day!
answering your question, a non nissa elvish planeswalker would be Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury, although she is secretly only half elf and half human, is not modern legal, and died killing a hole in space.
3 weeks ago
After the retool, you might actually want a few sources that produce abzan or all color mana on the off chance that you can activate Lingering Souls's flashback. That's where the card's real reliability comes from imo. Mana Confluence and Birds of Paradise would work ok, but replacing each of a plains and forest with Caves of Koilos and Llanowar Wastes or similar duals is my best suggestion.
1 month ago
I stol my other golari budget deck's mana base it only adds about 5$ to the cost.
- 1x Blighted Woodland
- 1x Bojuka Bog
- 1x Command Tower
- 1x Evolving Wilds
- 10x Forest
- 1x Foul Orchard
- 1x Golgari Guildgate
- 1x Golgari Rot Farm
- 1x Grasping Dunes
- 1x Hissing Quagmire
- 1x Jungle Hollow
- 1x Llanowar Wastes
- 1x Mortuary Mire
- 1x Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
- 1x Rogue's Passage
- 12x Swamp
- 1x Tainted Wood
- 1x Temple of Malady
1 month ago
You have 4x Spire of Industry but only 2 artifacts. Try out Ifnir Deadlands since they tap for colorless but can give you black for 1 life. Other pain lands might help too like Llanowar Wastes and if you have a Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth out, then all of your lands can tap for black. If you wanna do that, maybe up the count on those. Doomblade should be replaced with Fatal Push since Death's Shadow is top dog and kills a lot of creatures in this format
1 month ago
1 month ago
Some cards with wither might work well with this deck. Necroskitter, Oona's Gatewarden, Woodlurker Mimic are some that are cheap on CMC and actual money costs. Not sure on price but Plague Belcher is another solid contender. Baleful Ammit also seems pretty strong with lifelink.
I also think that the Obelisk Spider would be better as 4 of since you're putting -1/-1 counters on all kinds of stuff. Maybe cut down the Crocodile of the Crossing or Festering Mummy. These both seem lacking with the decks synergy.
I like the idea. Good luck!
1 month ago
I'm guessing no Doubling Season due to price?
Nice to see Vampiric Rites. Great card that doesn't get played enough.
Since your CMC is pretty lean and you already have Urborg and tutors I'd maybe track down a Cabal Coffers.