Creature — Illusion
As Ixidron enters the battlefield, turn all other nontoken creatures face down. (They're 2/2 creatures.)
Ixidron's power and toughness are each equal to the number of face-down creatures on the battlefield.
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|Commander 2019 (C19)||Rare|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Rare|
|Time Spiral (TSP)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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2 months ago
2 months ago
A small addendum, double face and meld cards can't be 'turned' face down by things like Ixidron, but they can still be manifested by things like Scroll of Fate, because the game doesn't realize their double face cards at that point.
2 months ago
I've figured you out.
While I guess you could consider your decks to be "combo" decks, they would more accurately be described as "trigger" decks. The majority of the creatures in the majority of your decks use triggered abilities... abilities which begin with "when," "whenever" or "at." There isn't much out there to combat triggered abilities (I actually started making a list and not a big one at that). Torpor Orb and Humility are really the best examples while Ixidron does the job indirectly, but only until you start putting out new stuff. I guess the same could be said for general board wipes as well.
4 months ago
Rapid Hybridization - Engulf the Shore - Spin into Myth - Devastation Tide - Displacement Wave - Curse of the Swine - Ixidron - Capsize - Leadership Vacuum - Imprisoned in the Moon - Mana Chains - Fade Away
5 months ago
A15Life if you try to flip a card that doesn't have anything on the other side it doesn't work. It will stay on whatever side it was on if the backside is blank unless the card has morph or is flipped by a card like Ixidron. It's like when you create a token copy of a flip card. The token will only copy the side that is face up so it can't flip over since it didn't copy that side.
6 months ago
Ixidron does not manifest creatures. It just simply turns them face down. if the creature was not manifested or has the morph/megamorph ability, you will not be able to turn it face up.
So, instead, lets say you steal with Yasova Dragonclaw a facedown creature put on the battlefield with the effect of Ethereal Ambush. In that case, you will get to keep the creature until the end of turn - it is the same permanent, so the same duration of the control-changing effect applies to it.
7 months ago
Hi there West,
As a player who specializes in WUBRG big mana, I'd like to add a few suggestions.
First off, let's look at a robust boardwipe package. I recommend 3 to 6 Sweepers total for a big, slower deck like this.
Disclaimer - while boardwipes can be a big feel bad for some, they are often extremely helpful to prevent slower decks from getting #WREKT by faster, lighter decks. Just make sure your playgroup is okay with you leaning into a slower playstyle that uses boardwipes to keep the nonsense at bay (this will really depend on your meta). Keep in mind boardwipes also help you get in for Voltron damage, assuming you sequence your plays correctly.
- Crux of Fate
- Ixidron: Looks strange, acts stranger. This thing is in my top 5 for favorite creatures, as it deals a crippling blow to most enemy decks.
- Cataclysmic Gearhulk: Thins the board without killing your best things. Beware, the opponent will still have stuff, but you're betting that Ramos can take 'em.
- Sublime Exhalation
- Day of Judgment
- Wrath of God
- Phyrexian Rebirth: If your deck is ramping enough (I think your deck can probably do it) then this spell is bananas.
- Flood of Tears: It is easy to overlook the second sentence...
- Time Wipe: A bit meh with Ramos himself, but keep in mind you can utilize this before Ramos even comes out to save your best creature while clearing the way for big mana spells.
- Phyrexian Scriptures: DANGER!!! This one is so slow that it can straight-up get you killed. It might be okay with Ramos, but it could also aggro everybody. I only include it because it synergizes a little bit with Ramos.
So one reason your deck might be "sputtering", as you put it, is simply the lack of Card Draw. With about 12 Card Draw sources you should be more able to keep yourself going and avoid sputtering.
Generically good card draw happens to be mostly black. Don't worry about life loss here, especially if you do end up adding board wipes.
- Syphon Mind
- Painful Truths
- Read the Bones
- Ambition's Cost
- Ancient Craving
- Underworld Connections
- Urban Evolution
- Recurring Insight
- Phyrexian Arena
- Kumena's Awakening
Your removal package is one of the strong things I see here. My only comment is that Vindicate looks good but its sorcery speed, so a Beast Within or Generous Gift is better in my opinion. Nice job on this section though :D
It's a Trap!!!
Alright, so I'd like to help you identify the "trap" cards. My playgroup calls a card a trap if it looks good in the deck in theory but is actually quite bad in practice.
I strongly recommend against Morophon, the Boundless because you will be getting at best one or two creatures from him. I don't believe your deck is (or should be) tribal enough to take advantage of him.
Ponder and Preordain are unlikely to do as much work as real card draw spells, at least from what I gather skimming over your list. Your deck is going to be naturally slower (and that's fine if you have enough Removal and Sweepers to keep yourself alive) so don't sweat cutting the 1-drops for card draw spells. I would instantly run Painful Truths and Read the Bones in place of these.
Voltron: This is just an opinion, but your Voltron section looks too big. I think the best thing about Ramos as a Voltron commander is his ability to naturally acquire a threatening amount of power as a side effect of you playing a really good Rainbow deck! Lean into that. I know it feels bad to cut some of the artifacts, but you may find it better to have other threats or support for your threats, instead of relying on your commander (who is already a bit of a priority target if I'm being honest). Now granted I am not sure that you've got too much Voltron stuff, but my instincts tell me to avoid committing too much to Voltron. I have seen it end terribly many times and this deck has the luxury of Incidental Voltron, so I would take advantage of what your commander is already doing.
Also, just a general trap for big mana decks is choosing too many "Payload" cards (like Maelstrom Wanderer, Nicol Bolas, etc) while not including enough support for them. I don't think you've got an issue with that, but stay vigliant - you're the only one who can stop you from going overboard.
Other Quick Additions
Kessig Wolf Run: Supports the Voltron, lets you sink that excess mana, and only takes a land slot to boot! Simply a great card for the Voltron portion of your strategy.
Overall, this is an interesting deck design though I do think it could benefit from a more focused game plan.
Don't get me wrong, this is good stuff - I think you've created a nice first version. Please don't take my criticism of your card choices personally, these are after all just my opinions and I am very passionate about making WUBRG work well. That doesn't mean I know best, though I'm trying to share what tips I can on the topic. At the end of the day choose the cards you want, but please do add more draw spells ;)
Cool deck and nice first draft.
Cheers and have fun :D
7 months ago
No, you will not be able to pay the cost of the creature, because it no longer has manifest affecting it. The manifest effect ends when you turn it face-up the first time. Since Ixidron merely flips it face-down, only morph, megamorph, or another effect that turns cards face-up can flip it face-up again.
- 701.33a To manifest a card, turn it face down. It becomes a 2/2 face-down creature card with no text, no name, no subtypes, and no mana cost. Put that card onto the battlefield face down. That permanent is a manifested permanent as long as it remains face down. The effect defining its characteristics works while the card is face down and ends when it’s turned face up.