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Creature — Illusion
As Ixidron enters the battlefield, turn all other nontoken creatures face down. (They're 2/2 creatures.)
Ixidron's power and toughness are each equal to the number of face-down creatures on the battlefield.
1 month ago
Bloodsucker1211 yes, for the duration of that entire turn, you can play that land or cast that spell at any normal time you could normally do so. Typically this is sorcery speed except for instants and cards with flash. Notice also that the face down permanent could have been placed face down by being morphed, megamorphed, manifested, or flipped face down by Ixidron or a similar effect.
2 months ago
Staizer - Get ready for a long response:
I did look at the same list as you did, but as a longtime morph player, this deck is a disappointment. I've already made my thoughts on Kadena clear so I'll make that response short.
A bland Sultai value engine that brings nothing new to the table. She isn't a bad card by any means, but she doesn't address any of morph's biggest weaknesses. I'd still play Animar, Soul of Elements , Kruphix, God of Horizons , Muldrotha, the Gravetide , and maybe even the new Bant brawl commander over her.
The choice of morph/manifest related reprints
Some fine inclusions. Ixidron , Stratus Dancer , and Vesuvan Shapeshifter are nice, but they chose to exclude most of the best morph/manifest related cards: Dream Chisel , Ixidor, Reality Sculptor , Whisperwood Elemental , Riptide Entrancer , Voidmage Prodigy , Voidmage Apprentice , Aphetto Runecaster , Primordial Mist , Obscuring AEther , Unblinking Bleb , Weaver of Lies , Brine Elemental (though this one actually makes sense), and even Backslide . I would never expect all or even most of those to make it into the deck, but a couple would've been nice and would've made more sense than something like Deathmist Raptor or Silumgar Assassin .
Only Scroll of Fate and Kadena's Silencer are worth mentioning here. I know I sound like a broken record, but none of the new cards help address the issues facing morph: speed and the fact that morph is a value based mechanic that requires a massive mana investment. Morph will always be a casual mechanic, but it needs something that reduces the cost of triggering morph, or something that allows for multiple activations (my hope was for repeatable Backslide effects). Neither of those issues were addressed by the new cards in this deck. I would've been happy with just 1 card that helps in that way...1 card.
Is this a good pre-con for new players? Yes. Does it have value? Yes, though most of the value cards are only that way due to scarcity. I think many will end up tanking in price. Will it win games against the other pre-cons? Probably. Will it win games against even 60% decks? Unlikely.
So is it a good pre-con and I am being extra critical? Maybe, but this mechanic has had a special place in my heart for a very long time (Morph was first introduced when I was a little kid and just starting out playing Magic). I was excited to see morph finally get some needed reprints and support. Instead the new cards aren't that inspiring and the reprints honestly look like they just pulled up Gatherer, typed in "morph", and then picked some of the first things that they found.
2 months ago
Dig deeper into the Sultai Morph precon decklist and you can find lot of reason to buy it. The manabase alone may be one of the better manabases for a three color Commander precon. Eleven nonbasic lands ETB untapped which is by precon standards an improvement from past precon manabases.
Why are the Signet lands ( Darkwater Catacombs ) being printed as rare lands? These lands don't actually make mana without having another land/one mana first, this is not an ability that's rare. These should be uncommon since they're much worse than Filter lands ( Sunken Ruins ) which are also rare lands.
Land value in the precon (in order):
- Ash Barrens
- Command Tower
- Sunken Hollow
- Bojuka Bog
- Reliquary Tower
- Thespian's Stage
- Exotic Orchard
- Llanowar Wastes
- Yavimaya Coast
I'm happy to see Ash Barrens reprinted because it's land that should be in every Commander precon. There's 17 two drops which is an improvement for precon deck building. Kadena, Slinking Sorcerer , Scroll of Fate and Kadena's Silencer look like good cards for morph. Silencer will however not hold at $10 of value it will decrease a lot. I don't know enough about the 13 other new cards to evaluate their value in the precon.
Valuable reprints in the Sultai deck (in order):
- Seedborn Muse
- Tempt with Discovery
- Thran Dynamo
- Sol Ring
- Strionic Resonator
- Hooded Hydra
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Reality Shift
- Grim Haruspex
Some notable exclusions for a morph theme:
- Dream Chisel : going to spike.
- Ixidor, Reality Sculptor : going to spike especially because of Scroll of Fate .
- Voidmage Prodigy : going to spike.
- Riptide Entrancer : going to spike.
- Birchlore Rangers : never been reprinted.
- Aphetto Alchemist : never been reprinted.
- Whisperwood Elemental
- Primordial Mist
- Zoetic Cavern
- Sultai Emissary
2 months ago
Rare/mythic morph cards or cards that care about face down cards especially if from older sets. They are all good prices right now and most will spike if a morph Commander is revealed.
- Voidmage Prodigy
- Dream Chisel
- Aphetto Runecaster
- Ixidor, Reality Sculptor
- Riptide Entrancer
- Deathmist Raptor
- Whisperwood Elemental
- Aphetto Alchemist
- Vesuvan Shapeshifter
2 months ago
I am a fan of the mechanic focused theme this year. I think all of the chosen mechanics were great/interesting choices as well.
Who else is super excited for Morph? My Quicksilver Dragon , Chromeshell Crab , and Ixidron will finally have a home! I have toyed around with decks using that mechanic for years, but they always lacked enough support to prevent the deck from being clunky.
Hopefully it will be Temur, but I'd settle for Simic. I think a cool ability for the new morph lord would be a reverse Ixidor, Reality Sculptor where you can activate him/her to turn a morph creature face down again.
Also, I wouldn't worry about mechanic specific cards like Dream Chisel or Catalyst Stone . Those cards are so unique/niche. WotC would be crazy not to reprint them in decks dedicated to their respective mechanics...though I have been wrong before.
3 months ago
4 months ago
Roon is one of the first decks I ever made to get into EDH, and I still have mine together and play it almost weekly. My list is here, so you have a point of reference: Roon of the Fun Police.
Some cards I think you may enjoy are:
Palinchron , who generates you infinite mana with Deadeye Navigator or Mirari's Wake . With infinite mana, you can easily abuse one of your token ETBs to flood the board and win. You may find that more beneficial than, say, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre , who does seem useful, but he has a cast trigger, not an ETB. This means that using him with Roon or Deadeye won't do anything- he has to be cast in order to trigger.
Another recommendation would be Ixidron , who turns creatures face-down. Roon, Deadeye, Venser, etc., can all flicker or blink your cards to turn them face up again, but your opponent won't be able to turn theirs over without killing off their own board state (unless the creatures in question are cards with manifest or morph, those are the only exception). You may find that useful to run in the place of another card, since this keeps annoying creatures out of your opponents graveyards but still deals with them- plus its almost one-sided since your creatures can be turned rightside up by blinking them.
Panharmonicon is a card that tons of blink decks enjoy for obvious reasons.
Cataclysmic Gearhulk is a sweeper that's so nice, you can do it twice. Or, honestly, as often as you feel it necessary.
Stonehorn Dignitary with Roon can completely lock an aggressive opponent out from ever attacking you for the rest of the game.
With creatures entering and leaving play so often, Aura Shards is too good for you to pass up.
Knight of Autumn is superior to Reclamation Sage. You can choose to destroy something or gain life, whichever you choose.
Cards you could cut for the above are:
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, Ulamog Ceaseless Hunger (both for the same reason: They're not repeatable since they're cast triggers, not ETB triggers), Wurmcoil Engine (a dies trigger, not an ETB or LTB), Reclamation Sage, Arbiter of Knollridge.
Hope this helps!
5 months ago
Hey bud, thanks for taking the time to look at my deck. Yes, it is a combo-control deck. The entire point of the deck is to keep my opponents from killing me for long enough to stick one of the 9 combos.
If you look at the "custom categories" sorting in the upper left you will see that I have sorted the deck into categories of cards (I don't do this often, as I said on your deck comment thread this is my oldest and favorite deck). Ixidron is categorized under "Wraths" and this may give you some insight into why he is played. I find that 2/2s are not threatening and sometimes turning a creature facedown is better than killing it because commanders can be recast and utility creatures can be reanimated. It at least makes players spend time and resources on killing their own creatures if they want them to have abilities.
Ixidron occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%