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The First Sliver
Legendary Creature — Sliver
Cascade (When you cast this spell, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card that costs less. You may cast it without paying its mana cost. Put the exiled cards on the bottom of your library in a random order.)
Sliver spells you cast have cascade.
The First Sliver Discussion
3 days ago
The First Sliver is a better food chain commander than tazri, as you get to cast all of the spells in your library as long as they cost 4 or less. you could also play Niv-Mizzet Reborn as a food chain commander that is better than tazri. and play Squee, the Immortal . it's a better misthollow griff and is probably better than eternal scourge because you can cast it from the graveyard in case it gets countered.
4 days ago
Glad to see that there are other players who also lament the rules committee's (poorly thought out - in my opinion) decision to ban Paradox Engine . If you agree, then why not sign the Change.org Petition to formally and respectfully voice your criticism?
Tecstasy: "I don't agree with the banning It sucks for slivers but practically neutered Karn. Well with paradox gone for now I went for the steal your stuff with Unnatural Selection" - Interesting...but which Karn are you referring to? Because if you're talking about Creator Karn , then I beg to differ. The Rules committee yet again missed another "ubiquitous" combo that in my opinion should fit within their new philosophy: Karn, the Great Creator + Mycosynth Lattice = None of your opponents can play magic anymore. This combo has circulated in multiple decks in my meta. The best part is that this combo really depends on who controls Creator Karn - so if an opponent drops a Lattice they could be unwittingly crippling the whole table and themselves. Again, I don't know which Karn you're speaking of, but at the very least one of them is still allowed to run around unchecked.
Doombeard1984: "Hi man. Just a wonder, with The First Sliver what about Congregation at Dawn could tutor up 3 creatures to cascade just an idea." - I like the idea of Congregation , unfortunately it has to be cast with First out on the battlefield already, and ideally a 5-drop on deck for casting in order to really take advantage of the 1-2-3 creature cascade drop.
Forkbeard: " For funsies I've decided to temporarily revert to my win-more sliver noob ways and am putting in Unnatural Selection for now." - I used to have Selection slotted in, but I found it to be useful in only maybe one scenario where Sliver Overlord isn't present, and that's against Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow . "Question for you regarding The First Sliver - In your experience have you cascaded into a fizzled removal/counterspell very often or do you find your topdeck manipulation suite to be sufficient in that regard?" Have I cascaded into a fizzled removal/counterspell? Well...yes. However there's a wonderful thing about Cascade - there's a may clause. That wording is: " You may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then put all cards exiled this way that weren't cast on the bottom of your library in a random order." So while I have cascaded into fizzled spells, they haven't had any real negative impact outside of that spell being exiled. I'm satisfied with the amount of topdeck manipulation that's already in the deck. I took a quick look at your build, and I must recommend that you include some Fetchlands. They help when in a pinch if you find that your deck efforts aren't going to yield anything.
5 days ago
@jaymc1130: Yeah, a big part of the reason I built this deck is because my playgroup seems to be stepping up its power-level a bit. One guy built an absolutely disgusting Yawgmoth, Thran Physician deck, and another built a sliver deck helmed by The First Sliver . As far as I'm concerned, if you bring Cascade into the playgroup you deserve to go up against a storm deck.
I love the Cheerios archetype, and realized I could make a reasonable facsimile of it in Commander for roughly the same budget as all my other decks, so it seemed like the best choice for me. If everyone else keeps playing their more casual decks, then I will stick with my old ones, but at least this deck has a good chance of storming out before the 5-color sliver cascade can get fully online.
6 days ago
I was able to spit my entire sliver fleet out with Paradox Engine exactly once. A memorable, glorious way to win and I too lament the ban. I slotted Intruder Alarm in as a replacement, but your comment gave me pause and I agree with you - it's just too risky and relies too heavily on an established board state. For funsies I've decided to temporarily revert to my win-more sliver noob ways and am putting in Unnatural Selection for now.
Question for you regarding The First Sliver - In your experience have you cascaded into a fizzled removal/counterspell very often or do you find your topdeck manipulation suite to be sufficient in that regard? The reason I ask is because I have a similar (albeit much more budget) build to yours except for the topdeck stuff ( Sensei's Divining Top + Mirri's Guile et al). I'm wondering if I need to/should incorporate a few of those options in order to optimize those sweet, delicious cascades.
6 days ago
Hi man. Just a wonder, with The First Sliver what about Congregation at Dawn could tutor up 3 creatures to cascade just an idea. As for Paradox Engine ban, at least we can still use in one on one. I run Intruder Alarm anyway, so can Enlightened Tutor for this and cascade it out. Which seems fair lol. Also was thinking of just chucking Leyline of Anticipation in there as well.
6 days ago
Oh, and I forgot to explain my reasoning behind Worldly Tutor - while again, it's only temporary, Tutor is meant to enable the deck's 3rd "Hidden" commander: The First Sliver . A fun play would be to cast Tutor placing a Sliver of my choice (cmc 4 or less) on top of my library, then I cast First . First 's cascade trigger then places down said previously mentioned Sliver on the board. Yeah, that's about it. Nothin' fancy. Thoughts?
2 weeks ago
How has The First Sliver performed? My concern is that it would cascade into something I'd rather not cast at the moment. Also, I keep coming back to Ad Nauseam -like effects and am flirting with running Bolas's Citadel but would want to add Sensei's Divining Top . Between the fetchlands and the Overlord, I spend some time searching, even if I know what I'm grabbing and it slows the game down. Do you worry about durdle time?
2 weeks ago
Gilady089 Look at the list for the first sliver. It says food chain not sliver tribal. Food chain is a combo deck that has nothing to do with slivers. The First Sliver is just the newest way to flip your deck over with infinite mana and food chain.
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