Return all creatures to their owners' hands except for Krakens, Leviathans, Octopuses, and Serpents.
|Have (3)||metalmagic , IcyLightning , CompleteWaste|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Whelming Wave Discussion
2 days ago
Hey, well done on a low budget, nice flavor of sea creatures.
Consider expanding on looting? Looting is draw and then discard.
- Windrider Wizard : repeatable loot by casting an instant or sorcery and it's a flying creature for Octavia's magecraft.
- Frantic Search
- Thought Scour
- Mental Note
- Strategic Planning
- Chart a Course
- Compulsive Research
- Key to the City : can make Octavia unblockable until end of turn.
A reason to play more looting is to have more instants or sorceries in your graveyard for Octavia. Another reason is Wonder which is a card you want to discard and when it's in your graveyard and you control an Island gives all your creatures flying especially Octavia. Pair the flying effect of Wonder with Stormtide Leviathan who's a big sea creature upgrade. He makes all nonflying creatures unable to attack, but Wonder gives all your creatures flying.
Whelming Wave will consistently wreck your opponents creatures and not bounce your creatures including Octavia. Sol Ring and Arcane Signet are staple budget mana rocks in Commander. Kefnet's Monument reduces the mana cost all of your blue creatures and each time you cast a blue creature you get to tap an opponent's creature who could be a blocker.
Sea-Dasher Octopus and Thought Sponge are some small sea creature upgrades. Deep-Sea Kraken is another budget big sea creature upgrade. It's ability to remove time counters from itself whenever any opponent cast a spell is good in multiplayer Commander.
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
I've been swimming paces like Poseidon with this deck, and enjoying the flavoured removals with Whelming Wave and River's Rebuke . One thing I'm trying out is adding another ticking-time-bomb-kraken, Deep-Sea Kraken , which is a nice addition if found early, ideally tucking another monster in suspended animation on turn 3, just behind a bubbling Ominous Seas .
The "cheap" Cryptic Serpent are also a nice touch, which come in handy to repopulate the board quickly after the graveyard's been filled with the scrys for card draws. Kudos!
1 month ago
Hi! Thank you very much for the comment and the suggestions!
I have to confess, I didnt know Unnatural Selection until now. It is definetly a great card in this deck! I should consider to add it. However I would not replace Wings of Velis Vel in spite of the fact that it looks to be quite weak. The changelling instants are essential during the gameplay. Let me explain why:
It is every creature type so Sliver Overlord is able to find it directly. He can tutor a "sliver card", not a "sliver permanent", what means a great flexibility for all of the changelling instants.
It is every creature type so with Morophon, the Boundless on board you can actually cast it just for
It is every creature type so you can easily reanimate these instants via Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero . She is able to put a "Rebel card" not a "Rebel permanent" on the bottom of your library. That is how you can play it repeatedly.
The Wings of Velis Vel is quite versatile as well. Many times I have used the card as sort of "removal" of an opponent's dirty flyer when I have created my own surprising 4/4 flying blocker.
Last but not least: I dont want to fully optimize the deck. I would like to keep a bit of its sense of "lore". Therefore I want to play the tribal lands as Ancient Amphitheater , Gilt-Leaf Palace or Murmuring Bosk . For this reason I need a number of changelling cards to keep them functional (to reveal a Giant, Elf, Treefolk etc and to play them untapped)
Sure it is possible to replace Tendo Ice Bridge by Mana Confluence . In this case I just worry a bit to play too many pain lands, because the deck is not extremly fast and it doesnt have any easy way how to gain life.
You are right about the bordwipe as well. I used to play the Whelming Wave as a cheap and lore variant of Cyclonic Rift . Later, I beleave, I have replaced it with a counterspell, because I havent used it much. Anyway.. it is still in my mind.
Thank you once more for the comment and for discovering Unnatural Selection for me ;)
2 months ago
2 months ago
Since you are playing Tatyova, Benthic Druid what about Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait . I dont know if you want the landfall ability in your deck but there are a lot more great inclusions to make in a simic deck. While being on this whole Landfall thingy, Pearl Lake Ancient works then very nice.
I think Reality Shift is not bad but Ravenform should be a better fit here, also there is Rapid Hybridization Since you are already playing big bad creatures what about a good ol' Hadana's Climb Flip Since you are short on removal what about big bad Terastodon , yes it will bounce back with your very flavourfull boardwhipe Whelming Wave but afterall, that's something good, so you can replay it ;) Dont underestimate the value of a Krosan Grip , Splitsecond can catch people on the wrong foot, interrupting combos.
Talking about Whelming Wave why not double down and put a Cyclonic Rift in there aswell? Or for flavour this guy: Kederekt Leviathan . Or something rather stupid: Aethersquall Ancient and since you are most likely to be behind on board i'd slam an Evacuation right in there aswell. And maybe even one River's Rebuke and a Coastal Breach even Inundate should be fine here.
Kodama of the East Tree seems like a good fit here, to cheat out some of the expensive stuff when you cast another one already, also works on lands. Something that works similar would be Imoti, Celebrant of Bounty . More on the topic cheating the mana cost, what about an Elvish Piper or a Quicksilver Amulet
Something protective is always good Thryx, the Sudden Storm
Your carddraw seems to be based on playing creatures with Garruk's Uprising and Elemental Bond (which is better in your deck because of it's Synergy with the tokens from Koma, Cosmos Serpent . But you can double down on that with cards like Guardian Project , Beast Whisperer , and The Great Henge . Colossal Majesty works similar to you but since you are ablte to include very high CMC stuff just slam a Zendikar Resurgent in there aswell.
Now to some more flavour which might not be good, but flavour you know? Kiora Bests the Sea God
and last something very special, you are already very high in CMC, why not double down and play a Keruga, the Macrosage , you can double down and play it as your companion, that'd be fun. You wont miss out on too much. A lot of it is also available in 3CMC like Disallow , Saw It Coming , Simic Locket or Search for Tomorrow Some cards have CMC 3 but you can still do stuff on turn 1 and 2 ;) but that's up to you and how much you want to go down that road of memes and shattered dreams.
Lands looks fine, but since you are able to untapp some lands, maybe use a Lotus Field or atleast a Castle Garenbrig . Since your Devotion can be very high at somepoint Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx but be worth it.
3 months ago
I love the list! Very interesting, but no Whelming Wave ?? I think it would be awesome considering the changeling archetype as well
3 months ago
Alright. Allow me to break this down.
Due to my inexperience with Mutate shenanigans, I shall focus more upon the ards I find generally lacking.
Now, as often as I read the terms of service, a lot of text does not necessarily mean a lot of synergy. The commander format espouses synergistic decks as opposed to ones fraught with individual card power. I thusly advocate for this card's removal.
Unless you are initiating combos with Brash Taunter, 'tis not a very good card. In a regular circumstance, it is around five damage for eight mana, which it severally lacking. The indestructibility is nice, but the majority of the format's removal is in the form of exile or bounce. I would kill it.
Some of these cards were designed for Ikoria limited, but not for outside of that format. What I would recommend excluding are Everquill Phoenix, Glowstone Recluse, Pouncing Shoreshark, and Dreamtail Heron. They are okay but below average.
Lastly, Blackblade Reforged is a strong card, but I would focus more on the value part of your plan as averse to the big creature plan. Illuna's mutate trigger accelerates your board state, thus making a single large idiot makes the plan susceptible to a single kill spell.
I have tried Soothsaying myself, yet had found the card to be far too much mana to be effective. There is not much to say. It cannot put cards to the bottom, nor can it permit much filtering with little mana spent.
Everquill Phoenix is a fine card, but I would rather have an additional engine piece as averse to a 4/4 flyer.
That shall be all from me, but I may offer additional insights as other edits are made to this list.
Farewell, and may all of fortune have you.
7 months ago
- still think chromatic lantern might be good, should probably run over commander’s sphere