Whelming Wave

Whelming Wave

Sorcery

Return all creatures to their owners' hands except for Krakens, Leviathans, Octopuses, and Serpents.

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Whelming Wave Discussion

Gidgetimer on whelming wave and changelings

1 month ago

Creatures with changeling are all creature creature types. Therefore; Whelming Wave will not return them to hand.

Swebb87 on None

1 month ago

Hi if I have a board with 8 shapeshifters / changelings in play and cast Whelming Wave will it return those creatures to my hand? Or not because they are every creature type so count as Krakens and leviathans.

Swebb87 on whelming wave and changelings

1 month ago

Hi if I have a board with 8 shapeshifters / changelings in play and cast Whelming Wave will it return those creatures to my hand? Or not because they are every creature type so count as Krakens and leviathans.

gwmort72 on Everything Tribal

2 months ago

That Soulcatchers' Aerie looks very interesting, like a lower CMC door of destinies in this deck.

I've never looked at Nightstalkers before we need to check them out. I am very happy with my mana cost curve right now and am cautious about adding too many expensive cost cards.

Dragon Tempest does some of the same work as the Aether charge but also lets my dragons (and other fliers) get haste.

Whelming Wave I am afraid I would run into the problem I have now with Widespread Brutality , unless Maskwood Nexus or Arcane Adaptation are out I am too reticent to blow up my tribal lords (who can be expensive to get out)

Angel_Zero on Everything Tribal

2 months ago

I have a similar decklist! I'm definitely gonna use some of the stuff from your list. I'd recommend looking at AEther Charge Whelming Wave Return of the Nightstalkers Crux of Fate Crucible of Fire Soulcatchers' Aerie .

multimedia on Your Local Aquarium

2 months ago

Hey, well done on a low budget, nice flavor of sea creatures.

Consider expanding on looting? Looting is draw and then discard.

A reason to play more looting is to have more instants or sorceries in your graveyard for Octavia. Another reason is Wonder which is a card you want to discard and when it's in your graveyard and you control an Island gives all your creatures flying especially Octavia. Pair the flying effect of Wonder with Stormtide Leviathan who's a big sea creature upgrade. He makes all nonflying creatures unable to attack, but Wonder gives all your creatures flying.

Whelming Wave will consistently wreck your opponents creatures and not bounce your creatures including Octavia. Sol Ring and Arcane Signet are staple budget mana rocks in Commander. Kefnet's Monument reduces the mana cost all of your blue creatures and each time you cast a blue creature you get to tap an opponent's creature who could be a blocker.

Sea-Dasher Octopus and Thought Sponge are some small sea creature upgrades. Deep-Sea Kraken is another budget big sea creature upgrade. It's ability to remove time counters from itself whenever any opponent cast a spell is good in multiplayer Commander.

Good luck with your deck.

nathanielhebert on $25 Quicken the Kraken

2 months ago

I've been swimming paces like Poseidon with this deck, and enjoying the flavoured removals with Whelming Wave and River's Rebuke . One thing I'm trying out is adding another ticking-time-bomb-kraken, Deep-Sea Kraken , which is a nice addition if found early, ideally tucking another monster in suspended animation on turn 3, just behind a bubbling Ominous Seas .

The "cheap" Cryptic Serpent are also a nice touch, which come in handy to repopulate the board quickly after the graveyard's been filled with the scrys for card draws. Kudos!

Martianno on Slivers of Velis Vel

3 months ago

Hi! Thank you very much for the comment and the suggestions!

I have to confess, I didnt know Unnatural Selection until now. It is definetly a great card in this deck! I should consider to add it. However I would not replace Wings of Velis Vel in spite of the fact that it looks to be quite weak. The changelling instants are essential during the gameplay. Let me explain why:

  • It is every creature type so Sliver Overlord is able to find it directly. He can tutor a "sliver card", not a "sliver permanent", what means a great flexibility for all of the changelling instants.

  • It is every creature type so with Morophon, the Boundless on board you can actually cast it just for

  • It is every creature type so you can easily reanimate these instants via Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero . She is able to put a "Rebel card" not a "Rebel permanent" on the bottom of your library. That is how you can play it repeatedly.

  • The Wings of Velis Vel is quite versatile as well. Many times I have used the card as sort of "removal" of an opponent's dirty flyer when I have created my own surprising 4/4 flying blocker.

  • Last but not least: I dont want to fully optimize the deck. I would like to keep a bit of its sense of "lore". Therefore I want to play the tribal lands as Ancient Amphitheater , Gilt-Leaf Palace or Murmuring Bosk . For this reason I need a number of changelling cards to keep them functional (to reveal a Giant, Elf, Treefolk etc and to play them untapped)

Sure it is possible to replace Tendo Ice Bridge by Mana Confluence . In this case I just worry a bit to play too many pain lands, because the deck is not extremly fast and it doesnt have any easy way how to gain life.

You are right about the bordwipe as well. I used to play the Whelming Wave as a cheap and lore variant of Cyclonic Rift . Later, I beleave, I have replaced it with a counterspell, because I havent used it much. Anyway.. it is still in my mind.

Thank you once more for the comment and for discovering Unnatural Selection for me ;)

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