Return all creatures to their owners' hands except for Krakens, Leviathans, Octopuses, and Serpents.
|Have (3)||CompleteWaste , jecder , vashaclarens|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Whelming Wave Discussion
2 weeks ago
hi Daedalus19876, I know you don't check this anymore (according to your profile) but I wanted to ask a question - since I'm overhauling my Koma deck to become more token centric.
I noticed Whelming Wave is on the list. However, after reading through the comments of this page, I see that you opt to not include Koma centric cards because he's played less often. This card seems out of place given that fact. Is there another strategy or reason for it?
1 month ago
Hey, nice version, but you forgot Whelming Wave?
Frantic Search is a really good enabler for Runo, by discarding a 6 CMC creature and then use the three lands you untap to cast Runo. Lim-Dul's Vault is another excellent enabler since you have a lot of life in Commander.
Reanimation helps when playing so many high CMC creatures and a low amount of lands. With Apprentice Necromancer the creature you reanimate has haste letting it attack to be copied by Krothuss the same turn you reanimate. Obsessive Stitcher is a repeatable looter and can reanimate even at instant speed on your last opponent's turn to then attack with that creature and Krothuss on your turn. Both these reanimation sources are creatures which can be helpful with Krothuss, if the battlefield is clear to attack to copy. Victimize is sac a creature, most likely a token copy, to reanimate any two creatures.
Victimize and Time Warp, etc. here go well with Archaeomancer to recur them to cast again because Archaeomancer is a creature who Krothuss can copy. Can be infinite extra turns for repeatable five mana as long as Krothuss can keep attacking and copying Archaeomancer. Baleful Strix is great to mutate with Sea-Dasher Octopus, making a 2/2 Octopus with flying, deathtouch, draw a card when it ETB and when it does combat damage to a player.
Attacking creature you want to copy with Krothuss, Spawning Kraken, 9/9 Krakens, etc. can really benefit from evasion. Wonder is nice because you can discard it and you have a lot of Islands. Archetype of Imagination is a 6 CMC creature who also makes your creatures nearly unblockable and pairs with Stormtide Leviathan. Junk Winder is a Serpent who pairs well with Spawning to tap down opponent blockers.
If interested I offer suggestions of cards to cut. Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
Major changes have been made.
Out: Snow-Covered Island, Beast Whisperer, Crash of Rhino Beetles, Dungrove Elder, Neverwinter Hydra, Omnath, Locus of Mana, Reclamation Sage, Seedborn Muse, Deepglow Skate, Icebreaker Kraken, Rite of Replication.
4 months ago
4 months ago
5 months ago
Hey, well done for a first deck. You have good card sense on a budget and you've even included Rimewood for Farseek, nice. Sol Ring and Arcane Signet are staple budget mana rocks in Commander to consider adding.
I see Retreat to Coralhelm, but I don't see the missing piece to the Retreat landfall combo. Budget Llanowar Scout or Scaled Herbalist tap to put a land from your hand onto the battlefield thus you can untap one of them with Retreat and repeat. These creatures let you put a land from your hand onto the battlefield at instant speed to trigger Aesi on opponent's turn. The last piece of the combo is Simic Growth Chamber or Guildless Commons. The land can bounce itself back to your hand and repeat.
I see Kodama of the East Tree; if you add Meloku the Clouded Mirror then you have another landfall combo. Any basic land can be repeatedly bounced and played to create infinite 1/1 Spirits. Tap a basic land to make one mana, use that mana to pay for Meloku and bounce the basic land you just tapped. This creates a 1/1 Spirit which triggers Kodama, put the same basic land from your hand and repeat.
There's a secondary sea monster theme here which Ominous Seas would expand on. Seas has interaction with Aesi since you put a counter on it each time you draw a card including your first draw each of your turns. Combine Seas with Retreat combo to make infinite 8/8 Krakens. Whelming Wave can be a blowout since Aesi is a Serpent. Bounce all opponents creatures leaving just Aesi and any other sea monsters still on the battlefield. Wave is nice Fierce Empath to bounce it to then cast it again to tutor again.
Teferi's Ageless Insight lets you draw an additional card whenever you draw a card. For each card drawn means that if you have an effect that draws more than one card such as Brainstorm you instead draw six cards. Yavimaya Coast, Bant Panorama, Blighted Woodland are some budget land upgrades to consider.
Some cards to consider cutting:
- Llanowar Tribe: too difficult of a casting cost when playing so many Islands.
- Engulf the Shore: too many Forests.
- Arbor Elf: too many Islands.
- Sphinx of Uthuun: not needed and too much CMC for what it does.
- Verdant Sun's Avatar: not needed, have life gaining from other cards that are less CMC.
- Khalni Heart Expedition: subpar source for ramp/landfall.
- Explosive Vegetation: the other two four drop land ramp spells are better.
- Beast Whisperer: a good card, but you can get repeatable draw from other sources that don't require you to cast a creature since the majority of the creatures here are high CMC.
Good luck with your deck.
5 months ago
Hey, well done on a budget less than $100.
Some budget upgrades to consider then I'll explain some of these suggestions.
- Court of Bounty --> Bounty of the Luxa
- Garruk's Uprising --> Talons of Wildwood
- Fierce Empath --> Explosive Vegetation
- Spawning Kraken --> Pelakka Wurm
- Arcane Signet --> Moss Diamond
- Return of the Wildspeaker --> Rush of Knowledge
- Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner --> Grow from the Ashes
- Growth Spiral --> Beneath the Sands
- Brainstorm --> Ranger's Path
- Rimewood Falls --> Woodland Stream
- Vineglimmer Snarl --> Thornwood Falls
There's lot of ramp here specifically from land ramp spells and Arixthemthes is ramp. You can afford to cut some ramp for more draw and lower mana cost draw such as Brainstorm and Growth Spiral will help to remove slumber counters faster. Court of Bounty can be repeatable draw with the monarch as well as from your hand cheat a sea monster onto the battlefield or put a land. Garruk's Uprising can give all sea monsters trample as well as draw a card whenever a 4 or more power creature you control enters the battlefield (ETB) including creature tokens.
Fierce Empath can tutor for any 6 CMC or higher creature and you can bounce him with Whelming Wave or Crush of Tentacles to cast him again. Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner can untap Arixthemthes as well as be repeatable draw like Garruk's Uprising. Spawning Kraken is an upgrade for a sea monster since it can create it's own army as long as it, Arixthemthes or other sea monsters do combat damage to a player. Rimewood Falls is an upgrade for Woodland Stream so Farseek can search for a Simic dual land.
Good luck with your deck.
7 months ago
Creatures with changeling are all creature creature types. Therefore; Whelming Wave will not return them to hand.