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|Aether Revolt (AER)||Mythic Rare|
|Masterpiece Series: Kaladesh Inventions (MPS)||Mythic Rare|
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- Isochron Scepter + Paradox Engine + Pyretic Ritual
- Desperate Ritual + Isochron Scepter + Paradox Engine
- Isochron Scepter + Lightning Bolt + Paradox Engine
Whenever you cast a spell, untap all nonland permanents you control.
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Paradox Engine Discussion
2 days ago
Shimmer/ Paradox Engine allows for mass, instant speed storm, at an insane ease. Yisan, while being better with Engine (untapping Yisan allows for fetching Llanowar Elves into Priest of Titania into Shimmer Myr into Temur Sabertooth or whatever, then keep untapping Yisan to go off until Great Oak Guardian then Sabertooth into infinite mana) still isn't an instant-speed spell, that is the issue. If the gamplan can be Swords to Plowshares ed at sorcery speed, the deck is doing something wrong.
If, just by playing lands, maybe a dork or some rocks, and passing, drawing cards, biding your time until the winning combo or impossibly difficult to win through lock hits the table, respond by casting everything you need to until you win.
This playstyle is Legacy Resetide ( Reset / High Tide with untap effects and a deck made up of Islands and instants, ready to storm until it casts a lethal Stroke of Genius on the opponent). I simply wanted to see if it was possible to accomplish a similar playstyle in Yeva.
You can't build Resetide in EDH because there isn't the consistency of running 7 Resets and 7 Tides (Legacy uses Cunning Wish as a playset for the 7 copies of every card in the deck it needs), nor can it even run enough instant speed draw and untap and ramp to pull it off without them, so mono-blue is out.
Zur can storm off at instant speed using Necropotence and Shimmer Myr , however doesn't have the luxury of doing it at anytime but on their own endstep, making it not a true-instant speed storm, as it can't do it in repsonse to an opponent winning on the opponent's turn.
Yeva, this list, can do it, only given a good hand and a lot of mana, but it can, with GoG and Cat. That was my interest in the deck. The issue was getting Cat, dorks that tapped for enough, and GoG, the mana to go off, and the interaction/protection to pull it all off.
Yeva was a long-shot, but if any deck could do it, Yeva seems like the one. The issue I found immediatly was wincon-lightness and tutor-lightness. The Cloudstone Curio , Paradox Engine wincons of the deck only go off at sorcery speed, so have big issues, however Shimmer Myr solves that, and allows for Walking Ballista , Candelabra of Tawnos (for Gaea's Cradle ), and more rocks to go off. The issue again is tutoring for that, then for the new combos. If this list had the tutor-density that a 3 color list like Zur would, it would work amazingly. As is, it just doesn't get there.
I am going to work further on this and try to get it to work, but Soren841 may be right that this is too difficult to accomplish.
Resetide may have friends in Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir . I may put some time into testing him out. That 5 mana cost is my biggest issue.
3 days ago
As a lover and fellow pilot of a Kozilek deck I am disappointed to not see Paradox Engine or Planar Portal :c Paradox Engine will untap all of your artifacts/mana rocks and Planar Portal will tutor cheap spells to combo off and extend your plays and create a huge board presence if left unchecked by your opponents.
If you want to see my variant by chance feel free to check it out right here.
I'm a big fan of the big man Kozilek himself so if you ever want to chat about him just drop me a message :)
4 days ago
4 days ago
For sale I have a few goodies. First is a pair of Ugin, the Spirit Dragon from Fate Reforged. I am asking $55 each, or both for $105. Next is a Paradox Engine for $30. Finally I have a Chrome Mox for $25, from Eternal Masters. Please reply if you are interested. Thank you!
4 days ago
Inkmoth - Have a non-card advantage engine in the Command Zone isn't that big, and many players would vouch that Vedalken Orrery with flash would be broken, which Yeva (while not being that exactly, due to only flashing out green creatures, isn't too far away from), so I'd make the argument that you are underestimating Yeva a fair bit.
Also, my line is experimental, but it isn't like paying 7 mana hoping for a Paradox Engine off the top when you cast your x=5 Genesis Hydra , if you have artifacts it hand, it lets you do dumb things, it doesn't make you pray there are stuff on top.
I want to spend some time to test out a variant of this without the heavy interaction suite or massive wincon suite. Without those, just trying to go off at instant speed, all in combo.
I want to see if it can do that " Reset / High Tide storm combo" at all, if it can't, I won't pursue it. If It only barely can, I won't pursue it. If the pieces align and everything works as intended, simply without interaction to protect it or stop opponents, I will see how much of the combo cards we can drop for interaction or more wincons.
If it ends up successful, we may have Yeva up a tier. Who knows.
Soren841 mind explaining why?
4 days ago
SynergyBuild: That's the downside of having an enabler in the Command Zone. She lacks CA and is entirely reliant on the deck to provide every line of play with her enabling them at instant speed.
Unless we cram in way more relevant artifacts in a deck that won't be able to facilitate them (monogreen), the Shimmer Myr line would definitely be a shoehorned strategy, especially when we can't reliably get Paradox Engine out of the deck. Implementing it will yield nothing but another line of play that'll serve to deviate from the core strategy.
Going off at instant speed, abusing fast mana, and Yeva overall is the goal
While this is mostly right, the core strategy is actually making sure a big mana dork sticks past summoning sickness. Something Shimmer does very little in facilitating aside from the occasional instant speed Thousand-Year Elixir . This line is especially moot when Genesis Hydra lets us cheat out artifacts at instant speed already while remaining a relevant outlet.
As stated in my disclaimer, it's borderline impossible for the deck to ever become a cEDH deck since it will never do anything aside from having flash and providing it, so if the deck doesn't give you gas you durdle.
Geier Reach Sanitarium : While seemingly a utility, it's also win con while also making sure we can always get the right noncreature card out on the field at instant speed.
Yavimaya Hollow : Very relevant in my meta, so it could be swapped for the pilots' preferred land.
Deserted Temple : This one might actually be worth cutting, it's only helped me like 5 times in the last like 200 games.
5 days ago
Not necessarily the right options, but if you're scraping the barrel & topdeck tutors are your current concern, then let me be your guide:
Mono green almost playable tutors ahoy! Skyship Weatherlight for a measly 8 mana you can tutor for any artifact/creature and add it to hand.
Planar Portal A repeatable tutor for as little as 12 mana initially & 6 for every additional tutor. A card with this much application is almost worth considering.
Planar Bridge A fantastic card with better artwork than the other two (and therefore a hundred times stronger). Furthermore this puts whatever permanent you need into play - this is arguably better than portal - as despite it being a tutor for multiple combo pieces that gets around the timing restriction, it doesn't go for non-permanents, so a tough call;
Keep in mind - none of these seem optimal off the bat. In fact - they're all pretty garbage at first look, but I've seen good use of Planar Portal in mono green (no joke).
1 week ago
You might be right about Mox Diamond being a dead draw after turn 5, I didn't think about that. I'll still give it a shot and see how it plays out. I haven't given this deck a test run yet. I been focusing more on a few other decks that I been trying to complete. It almost feels like a never ending battle. I don't think one can really say "this deck is complete" but more like "I'm currently satisfied with this build" ha!
Hatred I dont want to go as far as to say this card is an auto include in everything black, but its almost damn near close to be. I feel it can be a great political card, as in, Make truths with someone for a round (you don't touch me, I wont touch you) to eliminate a bigger threat at the table. Regardless if its Regular or Commander Damage but then you can combine that with Combat Celebrant Maybe put Hatred on Kaalia of the Vast
I also feel it's starting to get a little iffy here. Are you trying to get an alternative win con? Combat Celebrant is a damn nice card (I have it and was actually waiting for you to post some test run results about it) but I feel if you're going to play that card, you gotta somehow be ready to win because you're going to be the target when the table goes around and if you're not ready to win, hopefully you have some support to untap it or protect it the next go around.
But again, if you aren't playing Aurelia, the Warleader then why play Combat Celebrant Is it the lower CMC cost that Combat Celebrant carries? But then you can argue, Aurelia, the Warleader technically can cost nothing if you cheat it out with Kaalia of the Vast granite you'll have to wait a turn for that combat trigger. I really don't know what to that because I dont know how you're going to go about it. Maybe my thought process of playing it is completely different than your way? who knows, I can also be over thinking all this, hahaha which is a bad habit of mine.
Crucible of Worlds works great in conjunction with fetch lands. Definitely can get to hard casting those A'D'D but I feel it will also slow down the tempo of your current build. Sure you can tutor it but is that tutor taking away from a more crucial card that will end the game sooner?
I feel Crucible of Worlds would work better in a stax build. Using Ghost Quarter , Wasteland then the support of Ravages of War , Armageddon etc...Throw in all your talisman and signets along with Winter Orb , Orb of Dreams , Mana Vault , Mox Opal , Thorn of Amethyst Paradox Engine and especially Inspiring Statuary plus so much more.
For me, it starts taking on a different build adding Crucible of Worlds which can also be fun but I dont know man, Kaalia of the Vast there are a few different builds you can make with her. Its nice to hear opinions from other people because everyones perspective is different but the only real way is to just throw it in and try it out? It might work or it might not.
Paradox Engine occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.09%
U/R (Izzet): 0.46%