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Worldly Tutor Discussion
10 hours ago
I understand. I would run a few more dinosaurs. In my deck I run 27 dinosaurs. I don't run any of the "old" dinosaurs, I just run 27 dinosaurs from Ixalan. I don't really like any of the "old" dinosaurs that they changed to dinosaurs-beasts or dinosaur-lizards.
An artifact that I run in all my 3+ color decks is Chromatic Lantern. It really helps with color fixing. Herald’s Horn is a great tribal card. It makes the dinosaurs cheaper and lets you draw your dinosaurs.
I don't run a lot of top deck manipulation, but it's good with Gishath. I run Congregation at Dawn and Worldly Tutor. I would run Scroll Rack but I don't know what card to take out. To get cards out of your hand, cards like Hunting Grounds or Lurking Predators are great cards.
1 day ago
Mycosynthlithium, let me know which deck plays out better.
Balaroth, I use to run both cards in a previous version. I think I cut Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger for Rampaging Baloths for other ways to produce large amounts of tokens, in case Omnath was being shutdown. I cut Green Sun's Zenith for Worldly Tutor to get a turn 2 Lotus Cobra out, so I can get an early turn Omnath.
Crawarc, I would include both Mind's Eye and Seer's Sundial if you have the room for both. The more draw engine cards you have the better for Omnath. I would advise against cutting Elemental Bond, it is such an easy card to abuse draw from with the many elemental tokens being produced.
1 day ago
In full disclosure I've never played against that list or one quite like it - but typically the crux of Meren's power is how you choose to mulligan and which lines of play you seek out in your first few turns. In other words, a generic "good hand" and luck of the draw will often not serve you well, as opposed to thinking very critically about your opponents' weaknesses and proactively seeking out the best ways to address their individual strategies.
For example, some games against certain lists I ignore all else and look for Null Rod ASAP, because the disproportionate advantage it provides vs. artifact combo / ramp (i.e. Rashmi, Eternities Crafter combo) is simply so strong that every other line of play is just not worth it in comparison. On the other hand, against something like Yisan, the Wanderer Bard it is usually crucial to find removal or a boardwipe as soon as possible. So, your opening hand / mulligans / early tutors should reflect the line of play you believe is most likely to win you the game (again, a generic "good" hand will usually be the incorrect choice - it needs to be "good" for the specific matchup)
Initial impressions looking at the Ramos list:
In summary, we are much faster than this list and it at least appears to me that bogging him down in the opening turns of the game would give us plenty of time to setup a lock or establish fantastic board advantage.
Was this a 1v1 game or multiplayer? If multiplayer, did the rest of the table not use any removal?
2 days ago
Mindcensor cushions the following:
Fetches (OG zend, Evo Wilds, Myriad Landscape
Zur decks(one of the top EDHREC commanders)
Funny with Path (think about it)
You should run Ghost Quarter too, which can become a strip mine with Birdman on the field.
He really gets better against more expensive decks, and, judging by your list, your meta has money (foil Wasteland? WTF?). I also thought of a few more things:
Artisan of Kozilek triggers on cast, so it's unconditional recursion that gets past Gryff and Orb. It's also a 10/9 annihilator 2 beater, which is pretty great by itself anyway.
A early game token fountain to put the pressure on is always nice to. Black has Bitterblossom which is pretty good, but for you I'd certainly recommend Master of the Wild Hunt. It's a relatively unknown card, but with a Sol Ring on T1 you can have 2/2's every turn from T2 onward, and the Hunter has built in instant speed removal. Sign yourself up.
1 week ago
1 week ago
I would suggest that you should at least try Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx and Voyaging Satyr combo as-well maybe adding some creature Tutor's like Worldly Tutor,Birthing Pod, Woodland Bellower or Yisan, the Wanderer Bard.
1 week ago
Thanks for the suggestions multimedia
you might be on to something with Regal Force, i'll have to do some play test with him.
not so sure about Eternal Witness. the card is no doubt extremely good, and can help by getting my Priest of Titania back ect. I'll keep it in mind when I tutor. If she were an elf it would be a no brainier, I've been in the fence for a while.
while Concordant Crossroads is a must include in 90% of elf decks, if it doesn't set you up to win, or win you the game that turn it will make it easier for my opponents to kill Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury. this is another card I've been on the fence about, and has been in the deck in previous iterations.
I've honestly never been a fan of Worldly Tutor, I should probably give it a chance though.
I completely agree with Cavern of Souls and it would be in the deck if not for the price :P.
Yavimaya Hollow is good but i'm not sure I'd be willing to take out Eldrazi Temple for it. Maybe it could replace Homeward Path since Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury can disenchant most attempts at stealing my creatures.
thanks! you've given me a lot to think about!
1 week ago
Hey, looks good, +1
Here's some suggestions:
- Regal Force can replace Shamanic Revelation because it's a creature; it can be tutored for with any number of creature tutors. Revelation can't be tutored for.
- Eternal Witness is missing. She's a staple in green decks because she's a creature she can be tutored for and is great with both Fauna Shaman and Survival of the Fittest. She can replace Crushing Vines, Seeds of Innocence or Greenweaver Druid, much more impact.
- Concordant Crossroads has already been suggested. It lets you go nuts with mana Elves the turn it's played for only one mana. It can replace Crushing Vines, Seeds of Innocence or Search for Tomorrow. I don't think you need a land ramp spell here. If you can't suspend Search turn one it's completely lackluster for three mana. If you want a land ramp spell Nature's Lore is much better.
- Worldly Tutor can replace Crushing Vines, Seeds of Innocence or Primal Command. Primal is pretty mana expensive for what it does here because it doesn't put the creature you tutor for into play. At one mana instant Worldly can tutor for Priest of Titania or Ulamog that alone is worth it and seems much better for your strategy.
- Cavern of Souls and Yavimaya Hollow. I think these utility lands can replace the Eldrazi lands because you don't really need the cost reduction of the Eldrazi because mana is not a problem where as Cavern can protect Elves from counters and Yavimaya can protect a creature from removal or board wipe.
Good luck with your deck.