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Worldly Tutor Discussion
32 minutes ago
Hey _Delta_, how do you submit card submissions at tapped out? In regards to Hollowhead Sliver, the verdict is still out. I'm considering swapping a very different card for Eladamri's Call - Worldly Tutor . This also applies to Vlasiax's comment - The First Sliver makes topdeck manipulation (in regards to this deck at least) very relevant. I'm thinking of the scenario where I cast Worldly Tutor , placing Basal Sliver or Lavabelly Sliver on top of the deck, and then I cast The First Sliver which will result in two Cascade triggers off of mana. This could probably be optimized, but that's just a scenario that I thought of.
Vlasiax, I have to keep Chromatic Lantern in the deck. This is a 5 color deck, and there are plenty of scenarios where I just don't get the manafixes in at the right time. I need that card to bail me out of a tight spot. I think my mana is in a good place, and doesn't need any reduction. There have been plenty of games where I was mana screwed out of just one color.
4 hours ago
I think that you can safely cut 1 land since you have 35 + 2x rocks, which is the amount of mana producers that I personally run in my The Ur-Dragon deck with higher curve and avg. CMC at 3.00. Also with the amount of draw/card filtering/tutors you're in good position to see enough lands each game.
Also isn't your manabase perfect enough so you don't actually need to use Chromatic Lantern ? My point is that in Slivers Gemhide Sliver and Manaweft Sliver are already making it's job in 2 copies at 2 CMC.
_Delta_ I actually think that in Tribal deck like this, where creatures also act as a some kind of toolbox (in which Slivers excel at) Eladamri's Call is too good to cut it. I'd personally try to find some room for Worldly Tutor as an easy way to find Sliver Queen or new Lavabelly Sliver before turn we gonna win.
4 days ago
5 days ago
I find it very interesting that your first tutor is for Sakura-Tribe Elder . I have only played a couple of games with the deck. My first tutor is usually Spore Frog or Sylvan Safekeeper . It would seem your opponents would target Meren. How do you keep her on the board? Is your reasoning that you use Sakura-Tribe Elder to ramp so that you can just recast her?
Has your thoughts on Necrotic Ooze changed? You posted on May 15 on Control_Train's thread, "The other one that I've cut is Necrotic Ooze again, rarely pulled it's weight and often he turned into a sakura tribe elder... Not what I want to do for 4 mana."
I have tried to not add cards that either you or Control_Train are not playing. The logic being why not utilized two players who have games upon games to tune the deck. Keeping that in mind would you think it would be prudent to cut Pitiless Plunderer for Birthing Pod , and Victimize for Worldly Tutor ?
Now, having said that, I now am going to ask your opinion on cutting Mausoleum Secrets for Imperial Seal and Pernicious Deed , Maelstrom Pulse or Casualties of War for Massacre Wurm . The first cut I do not envision being controversial. Imperial Seal is a top deck, sorcery speed unconditional tutor. Mausoleum Secrets is instant speed but requires creatures in the graveyard and only gets a black card.
The second cut may get down voted by you. The deck already plays a top of spot removal and sweepers. Massacre Wurm is already on your radar and it makes another great etb effect at 6 mana for Birthing Pod .
Speaking of Birthing Pod, you only have one good etb creature at five mana in Sidisi, Undead Vizier .
5 days ago
Big Update - The "Flying Matters" sub-theme is no more. Incorporated many recommendations of Vlasiax to streamline the deck and make it a little leaner and meaner.
Spit Flame , Mana Flare , Heartbeat of Spring , The Immortal Sun , Skarrgan Hellkite , Hellkite Tyrant , Kilnmouth Dragon , Bladewing the Risen , Darigaaz Reincarnated , Shizo, Death's Storehouse , and Woodland Cemetery
Worldly Tutor , Sarkhan's Triumph , Night's Whisper , Nature's Claim , Abrupt Decay , Dragonlord's Servant , Dragonspeaker Shaman , Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma , Patriarch's Bidding , Evolving Wilds , and Terramorphic Expanse
6 days ago
Hey there, First you have two simic signets in your deck,it should say as a ramp card so my suggestion would be Nature's Lore or Skyshroud Claim as these can also fetch your green shocklands. Also looking at your managraph I would also suggest to cut your mountain and add a additional forest.
Cards for deck improvement,your list looks overall ok but maybe some tutoreffect's might help you, Demonic Tutor , Worldly Tutor and Eladamri's Call would improve your deck overall to get certain sliver's in some situations even without The overlord in play
1 week ago
About that - main problem here is that you want to have too much high CMC cards that make 'cool things' but it's better to settle for less and actually get there. Playing Dragon tribe already fills your high end of the curve so we need to focus on lower CMC interaction/ramp/draw to get to cast as many of the mentioned creatures as possible.
That's why Crucible of Fire and Sight of the Scalelords are bad but you seem to discover another way to win besides fight with big beaters - it's reanimator strategy. So I'd rather get 4/4 or 5/5 Dragon with Animate Dead for AND do something else than cast one of those enchantments and pass, hoping that it survives on board. I personally use reanimation with Dragon Tempest as a secondary strategy to kill as many people as possible with damage from dragons coming back and then smash the rest with them, since they get haste.
Abrupt Decay has that advantage of hitting NONLAND permaments... so creatures, enchantments, artifacts, planeswalkers all go down. While Vraska's Contempt is overpriced Path to Exile in black since planeswalkers can be overrun with Dragons and 2 life gain is negligible. It's not about hitting someone's Craterhoof Behemoth or in your case Hellkite Overlord it's about dealing with Sylvan Library / Phyrexian Arena , Chromatic Lantern or Yisan, the Wanderer Bard that get them there. And that's the lesson that I learned few months back and made drastic changes to my deck - Bow before Draconic King!!! | *WAR* Update. It's still a Dragon deck but has everything that early game requires so I can still compete with better tuned decks of others.
That's why for changes I'd propose:
- Kilnmouth Dragon -> Night's Whisper - instead of giving someone information what you have for 7 mana you get 2 cards for 2 that noone sees besides you
- Skarrgan Hellkite -> Selvala, Heart of the Wilds or Lotus Cobra - 5 mana for 4/4 flyer that can be 5/5 with overpriced activated ability is bad... you'll be better off with one of these dorks for 2-3 CMC.
- Crucible of Fire -> Nature's Claim - lowers the avg. CMC, let's you be more reactive and holding on for interaction on opponents turn is easy to do.
- Spit Flame -> Sarkhan's Triumph - overpriced damage restricted to creatures might be good in Standard but not EDH. Try out tutor instead and thank me later :D
- The Immortal Sun -> Gruul Signet / Rakdos Signet - I know it's an epic card and all but... it's cost is huge, you might actually cast 6 CMC Dragon instead of this and to actually get there you can run early ramp so 1-2 turns earlier flying behemoth will be way more dangerous.
- Hellkite Overlord / Darigaaz Reincarnated -> Worldly Tutor - with tutor in deck you need actually 1 of these two if you still want to have a huge Dragon. Also this is great way to get utility dragons like Glorybringer or Dragonlord Kolaghan when you need them most.
- Temple of the False God -> Rocky Tar Pit / Mountain Valley / Evolving Wilds - this land is bad... if you have 1 land and this, then you still only have 1 land since it won't activate early. Ancient Tomb is great because it can work turn 1 for some rocks but this... requires board full of lands and one Armageddon makes it useless again.
If you want to know more about getting better at EDH I'd recommend checking out CMDR Central and EDHRec podcasts on youtube - https://articles.edhrec.com/commander-central-ep75-settling-for-less/. Also EDHRec page has great articles posted daily, one of them is about Evolving Wilds: https://articles.edhrec.com/in-the-margins-evolving-wilds-terramorphic-expanse/
1 week ago
I like your suggestions, but I'm not sure what to cut.
Worldly Tutor occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.09%
G/U (Simic): 0.58%
GW (Selesnya): 0.98%