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|Premium Deck Series: Slivers (PDS)||Common|
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Creature — Sliver
All Slivers have ": Add one mana of any color to your mana pool."
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Gemhide Sliver Discussion
1 month ago
-3 diffusion sliver -1 island -1 simic guildgate -3 mountain -2 forest
1 month ago
You run both. You want both Paradox Engine + Intruder Alarm as well as Gemhide Sliver + Manaweft Sliver + Cryptolith Rite. This lets you get your combo out as consistently as possible, plus all of these individually massively help your game plan even if you aren't comboing out with them.
I also play 5c Slivers with Overlord as the Commander.
Here are some cards I'd suggest with that experience in mind:
Descendants' Path is a great draw engine. Mirari's Wake buffs your slivers and doubles your mana. Phyrexian Reclamation lets you pull Slivers from your yard. Shared Animosity is one of the best one sided buffs you can give your Slivers. Steely Resolve for an additional way to give them all hexproof. Spirit of Resistance combos with Sliver Hivelord making it so you cannot lose the game. Konda's Banner gives +2/+2 to all slivers when attached to a 5c sliver. Vanquisher's Banner is a draw engine and buffs your slivers. Distant Melody draws a ton, Domri Rade serves many roles and is very cheap to play, Cyclonic Rift belongs in any EDH list with blue in it. Shaman of Forgotten Ways is a good ramper, helps to hit 5 colors and has a win-con attached to it. I also run a Birds of Paradise for color fixing.
This deck doesn't look to be a budget deck, except in your lands. That's okay, that's exactly how my deck is as well. Here are some good cards to make fixing 5 colors easier:
The cheaper 5c lands: Ancient Ziggurat, Cascading Cataracts, City of Brass, Command Tower, Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse + (only) 1 of each basic, Exotic Orchard, Grand Coliseum, Mirrodin's Core, Path of Ancestry, Rupture Spire, Sliver Hive, Transguild Promenade, Gateway Plaza, Unclaimed Territory, Unknown Shores.
Running a combination of all of these means you only need 1 of each basic, and you'll have no problem hitting 5 colors asap. There are better ways to build the mana pool for 5c Slivers, but it costs thousands of dollars worth of lands.
Anyways, love what you've got going on so far. Hope your table hates playing against this deck as much as my table hates playing against mine, haha.
1 month ago
I suggest looking at my Sliver EDH Deck. In there are a ton of combo descriptions, cards in the maybe board are full of cards that work in sliver base decks, and if you need help just ask!
2 months ago
Sorry for not responding sooner - got busy with life and stuff. Also been working on a new deck for funsies. However, your question: would Maelstrom Nexus work as a possible value engine in your deck? In my opinion...I think you wouldn't get as much value out of the card as you would like. According to my count you have 13 cards in your deck that are CMC 5 or 6. Ideally with Maelstrom Nexus out, you'd cast one of those big cards and cast something smaller - ideally a Sliver. The problem here is that there's a bit of unpredictability with Cascade - once you cast that spell you could end up revealing and casting any of your instants or sorceries. Imagine Cascadeing into a Armageddon with no Gemhide Sliver on the board?
tl:dr - Would Maelstrom Nexus be fun to play? Yes. Would it get you consistent results with every Cascade trigger? No. Sometimes, it may even hurt you.
If you were looking for more consistent results that result in ether value, or just outright win you the game then I'd suggest:
The previously mentioned cards when paired with a Mana and Haste Sliver result in you casting everything from your deck for the most part. Sure, it doesn't exactly fit within the aggro play style you seem to be going for, but it ends the game. Most players who have played against Slivers know exactly what any of the previously mentioned cards mean when you get them on the battlefield, so expect to have to defend it when it hits the board. What do you think of my suggestions? Would you want to use any of those, or are you looking for something more unique?
2 months ago
Nice deck. If you added Mana Echoes you can create infinite mana, and with Gemhide Sliver and a haste sliver, you can have infinite colour mana too. Sliver Queen is the creature producer. +1from me, and feel free to have a look at mine
3 months ago
Ah...good ol' fashioned Sliver Hate™. All I can say is that politically - you will be weak. Prepare to be targeted heavily during games "Because Slivers". Take it as a compliment, but prepare for the worst my friend. At least, that's my perspective from my own experience. I don't know how to start lol so i'll just talk about whatever.
Creatures: So you chose to include 33 creatures - making them about 1/3 of your deck. while it's nice to have Slivers, you are limiting yourself on spells that can help you interact more with players (i.e. counterspells and removal). Speaking of Slivers, you chose pretty much the best of the best. None of those horribly misguided attempts created during the Futuresight block - i'm looking at you Reflex Sliver. I would try to cut your Slivers down to about high 20's- Maybe 28-26.
Artifacts: You don't have enough mana rocks in this deck. Since you need to rock hard and fix your manabase, you need make some room here. If you're on a budget, you can always consider the Talismans from Mirrodin, Fellwar Stone, maybe Prismatic Geoscope (I mean, it's slow but it gets you WUBRG). Also, I know it's expensive now, but getting a Paradox Engine in your deck would pay in dividends. It's essentially a value engine that wins you the game if you have Gemhide Sliver + Heart Sliver.
Enchantments: Can't really argue with the choices you made here. If you ever feel like you're hurting on draw, maybe consider Mystic Remora? It's a great T1 drop.
Instants: Can't really argue with the choices you made here. Good stuff.
Sorceries: Also solid choices - I can see that you really enjoy creature control sneaking in Peer Pressure. But I say, why not cut to the chase and drop in Expropriate or Bribery? Who needs nuance when you partake in Blatant Thievery?
I've run out of time, but i'll add another post on your landbase, and what suggestions you could use there for a stable 5 color manabase on a budget.
3 months ago
Well the first and main combo that you need to know about for Sliver combos is this:
Intruder Alarm or Paradox Engine + Gemhide Sliver or Manaweft Sliver or Cryptolith Rite + Sliver Overlord = every single sliver in your deck is now in play. How it works, is you use your other slivers to tap for at least 5 mana putting 5 in your pool, use Sliver Overlords search ability to search out a 1 CMC Sliver and put it into play, netting 1 positive mana and untapping all of your slivers. Do this for all your 1 CMC slivers, then all your 2 CMC slivers, and you should end out with enough spare mana to play every single sliver in your deck. Training Grounds makes this combo even easier to achieve.
A little tip, for when you don't have the full combo but have Sliver Overlord in play, always search out Crystalline Sliver first to keep your slivers safe. Sliver Hivelord is a good second option. Once both are in play, you're free to do pretty much what ever you want without threat of losing your army of slivers.
I run a Sliver Overlord Commander list and my deck has a focus on combos. Feel free to check it out for some tips. My mana base is super budget, so you can fill out your 5 color mana base easily. Run all 5x Vivid lands, all 10x Tri-colored lands, 1 of each basic land, Terramorphic Expanse and Evolving Wilds, then there are enough 5 color lands to get you to 37.
3 months ago
Try a Paradox Engine when you have Sliver Overlord out. Any time you play down a new creature, all of your creatures untap. In mine, I run land hate cards like Armageddon and Catastrophe since I usually have a Manaweft Sliver or Gemhide Sliver out. Its fun to watch the opponent squirm when they can't play anymore spells for a few turns.
Gemhide Sliver occurrence in decks from the last year
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