Creatures can't attack you unless their controller pays for each creature he or she controls that's attacking you.
|Want (10)||Cloudsleeper , shpadoinkle , SasukeUchiha , Grimlok893 , sedhyran72 , Mr_Salary_Man , Kotu , GabeBurch , gadenlock , Streyken|
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|Commander 2019 (C19)||Uncommon|
|Planechase Anthology (PCA)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2016 (C16)||Uncommon|
|Conspiracy: Take the Crown (CN2)||Uncommon|
|Planechase 2012 Edition (PC2)||Uncommon|
|MTG: Commander (CMD)||Uncommon|
|Champions of Kamigawa (CHK)||Uncommon|
|Promo Set (000)||Uncommon|
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Ghostly Prison Discussion
1 week ago
@VampDemigod i'm curious about your reasoning for putting repeatable mill 3 for 2 colored at 7-8/10. especially on a card that required 5 colors to cast. mill itself is usually a pretty low powered ability especially in any format that cares about using it's graveyard. even at mill 3 i'd still probably consider it the worst ability on the card.
for the same reason that this card doesnt need to mill 10 like Glimpse the Unthinkable because it's repeatable. i'd say the fact that this card has a repeatable counter spell makes it better than usual 2 mana counter spells. currently i'd compare it to Dovin's Veto as an activated ability isn't countered by most counter magic. dovin is better in that it can hit cards like Opt or Ghostly Prison but this ability also stops cards like Izzet Staticaster. this ability if any of them is the highest on the scale in my opinion at a solid 8.5/10
as a side note, deino is correct the ages of dragons in dnd are wyrmling, young, adult, and ancient. at least in 5e. however OP mentioned prismatic dragons being a thing in dnd which isnt true of 5e. i'm not sure which edition they are included in, so i'm not sure if the sizes are called out the same way in that edition.
1 month ago
I would cut Academy Rector,Arena Rector,Magus of the Tabernacle, Mycosynth Lattice,Karmic Justice, Propaganda, Price of Glory,Ghostly Prison,Solemnity, Sun Titan, Sphinx's Revelation, and Meekstone. I saw on reddit you were looking for a highly tuned deck and the above cards really only have place in a casual environment.
Stax decks often run into the issue of just adding stax and hoping to win, but that just leads to long drawn out games with no interaction. First thing you need to do is come up with win cons. How are you winning? I see iso rev, but the only payoff is Urza. I see you have a few pieces of hard locks in place, but you arent including the often played halves (Drannith Magistrate,Lavinia, Azorius Renegade). Youre playing a blue deck, but running Price of Glory which removes blues best trait which is stack interaction. You arent running wheels which work great with Narset, Parter of Veils in both they stax your opponent while getting you a new hand. You are running a ton of board wipes which in a more competitive environment wont do much.
Approach of the Second Sun is a slow and casual card but right now it seems like the most consistent way to win with this deck so only remove it once you come up with better win cons. You're in the colors to run Breach lines, so maybe try to incorporate that? Why not runRest in Peace and Helm of Obedience as you are in blue and white so you specialize in artifact and enchantment tutors? Add the other halves of the hard locks, toss in Muddle the Mixture as an easy way to tutor for Lavinia and Drannith, and that should turn them from a magical christmas land scenario to something that should happen more often. If youre in red, you should be playing Dockside Extortionist as it is currently one of the best pieces of ramp in cEDH. To be honest, you really should check out this website (https://cedh-decklist-database.com/) and look at decks that share your colors and gameplan, and see where you can make improvements.
Cards I would add Windfall,Wheel of Fortune, Drannith Magistrate, Lavinia, Azorius Renegade, Dockside Extortionist, Gamble, Muddle the Mixture, Force of Will, Force of Negation, Mana Drain, Counterspell, Dispell, Flusterstorm, Mental Misstep, Ghostly Pilferer, Gilded Drake, Hushbringer, Rest in Peace, and Helm of Obedience.
Hopefully this helps.
1 month ago
Depends on how many times you face aggro decks. You can construct your angels deck very different on the lower end. For Aggro you only need to survive 5 turns and then you are good. You can adjust your Angels setup deck for aggro with: (Keep in mind when you bring Sorceries and instants in your maindeck, you kill more and more any devotion plan)
What to put in:
- Mass removals: 4x Settle the Wreckage and 4x Terminus and 4x Sunscour (That one is actually only for retarted turn 2 boardswarm decks)
- Creatures: 4x Auriok Champion (Mono red aggro option, keep in sideboard), 4x Archangel of Tithes, Shalai, Voice of Plenty, Linvala, the Preserver
- Enchantments: 4x Ghostly Prison, 4x Norn's Annex
What to take out:
1 month ago
2 more Razorverge Thicket. You want them in the first 3 rounds to enter untapped. Gives you a bit more speed and fixing.
+2 Thicket -1 Forest -1 Plains +1 Ghostly Prison +2 Idyllic Tutor -3 Mana Bloom
1 month ago
Peoni: I actually do have a version of greater auramancy in here. Sterling Grove. Reason I went with that rather than the auramancy is because once I pull or tutor into Estrid's Invocation I can copy the grove then sac one of them to tutor for another enchantment. As for solemnity and unlife, I use that combo in my Zur deck and getting it online is much easier than it would be in this deck which is why I went for Ghostly Prison effects. Don’t need to combo with anything else, they work on their own. Utopia sprawl may work better in here than one of the other ones. I will be considering that one. Glad you liked and thanx for checking it out.
1 month ago
Hey, nice version of Elsha. I saw your forum topic asking for help with cuts.
Six cards to cut to make 100 cards:
- Remember the Fallen: lackluster recursion.
- Danitha Capashen, Paragon: doesn't reduce all artifact casting costs only equipment which makes her not as good as other cost reducers since she doesn't work with the Top combo.
- Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin: creature who's not good enough to disrupt Elsha.
- Ghostly Prison: I don't think you need both Prison and Propaganda, one could be cut.
- Blackblade Reforged: only good if you have a lot of lands, but you don't want a lot of lands with Elsha.
- Basilisk Collar: not a fan unless you're playing ways to take advantage of deathtouch and you can get lifelink from better equipment.
When you want more cuts look to reducing some redundancy:
- Puresteel Paladin is much better than Brass Squire.
- Padeem, Consul of Innovation is much better than Leonin Abunas.
- Sword of Vengeance is better with Elsha than Sigiled Sword of Valeron and Batterskull for vigilance since also gives trample. Valeron is a supbar equipment for the same costs as Vengeance and Batterskull not giving evasion is a big drawback.
- Hammer of Nazahn is better than Darksteel Plate.
All the Swords in the cycle can be good for different budgets, but when you have the three better expensive price ones then you don't need to play the others. Sword of Body and Mind, Sword of War and Peace, Sword of Truth and Justice are not as good as the others and could be cut.
Some cards to consider adding:
- Enlightened Tutor, Whir of Invention, Reshape, Fabricate: tutor for an equipment or Top.
- Foundry Inspector, Cloud Key: other artifact mana cost reducers for the combo with Top.
- Izzet Signet, Azorius Signet, Boros Signet: add the Signets in place of lands.
- Jeskai Ascendancy: is like giving Elsha pseudo vigilance with instant speed surprise untap/pump her to block and draw.
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
You should also consider running more mana rocks like Sol Ring, Arcane Signet, and Fellwar Stone. Then probably look to swap out your lands that come in tapped with either basics or other lands that don't come in tapped that fit into your budget.
Next I would advise you to think about what you want your deck to do. I feel like a lot of the cards in this list don't necessarily fit the overall strategy and lack synergy with other parts of your deck. For example, why are you running cards like Shark Typhoon, Council's Judgment, Omniscience, and Leyline of Anticipation? How do they fit into your commander's strategy? Also think about cards that you could improve on. I can tell you want to incorporate some sort of stax/pillowforty element into your deck with cards like Lawmage's Binding and Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer, but there are better cards we could swap these out for like Ghostly Prison to complement your Propaganda and Crawlspace to limit the amount of hitters coming at you. Looking at your current list it feels like you want to make this into a deck that wins and doesn't care about the fun of others (after all you're playing Sen Triplets), so look to improve your existing picks and ask yourself what your cards do to further your strategy.
Finally, take out Deafening Silence and Meddling Mage. The latter hurts what you're trying to do a lot. You'll only be able to use people's hands to a limited degree and it just slows the game down a lot in general without helping you win. The former just doesn't do enough when you could just cast their threatening spell yourself to get rid of it.
Good luck with this deck! I hope it comes out to your liking and I hope I was of some assistance. :^)
1 month ago
I don't feel like you need either Ghostly Prison or Propaganda. You're looking to establish a big board presence with a lot of buffed up fish people, and then use control magic to protect them while you kick everybody's teeth in. Realistically people swinging at you isn't going to be what you need to worry about. What you do need to worry about is people interfering with your board with wipes and whatnot, and that's why you've got all the control magic so you're already set. The thing is, if somebody has a threatening creature that you don't want coming your way, propaganda isn't going to stop them. If they really want to hit you they're gonna pay the cost and hit you. Pillowforty cards aren't worth running unless you're stacking them and your strategy is built around them, but in your case you already have your horde of roided up fish people for protection. You should have more than enough chump blockers and threatening lads of your own to deter swinging better than propaganda could. I also don't think your deck needs Rest in Peace in its 99. It's not part of a win con that I can see like Helm of Obedience, and you aren't running stax or lots of graveyard hate, so it just feels out of place.
Then, with those slots you could add in let's say, another mana rock like Talisman of Progress because I feel like you might not have enough ramp. You could also add something like Stormtide Leviathan to lock down the board better than ghostly prison or propaganda could while letting your islandwalkers go nuts (which reminds me; Merrow Harbinger and Streambed Aquitects might suit you).
Finally Echoing Truth in commander seems questionable. Good against lots of tokens but other than that you're just playing a 2 mana Unsummon. I would consider swapping it out for either more ramp (Chrome Mox assuming you have a larger budget but not a Mox Diamond big budget, or Fellwar Stone if you're looking for something cheaper), or another counter of your choice, perhaps a Pact of Negation or a Force of Will. Hope this helps! I like your deck. :^)