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| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Arena | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Freeform | Legal |
| Gladiator | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Historic | Legal |
| Historic Brawl | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Modern Beyond Horizons | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Pioneer | Legal |
| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
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FadingReality on
building
1 month ago
Last post here. This will be a list of suggestions. If I place an "***" next to one I strongly reccomend you try to find room for it. Regardless, all of these suggestions should be considered as I think they're all good. I wouldn't be suggesting them otherwise.
LANDS
MDFC's:
Fell the Profane Flip*** (highly suggest cutting a basic swamp)
Branchloft Pathway Flip (swap with a basic if you get this)
Brightclimb Pathway Flip (swap with a basic if you get this)
Darkbore Pathway Flip (swap with a basic if you get this)
Normal lands:
Wasteland*** (I suggested this as a swap actually but I wanna relist it here so you don't forget)
Dust Bowl*** (Strip mine, wasteland, and dust bowl are the best lands that kill lands in the game, period. Run these 3 and you do not need any others.
Path of Ancestry (3+ color decks are gonna want any-color lands. You'd be surprised)
Mana Confluence (3+ color decks are gonna want any-color lands. You'd be surprised)
City of Brass (3+ color decks are gonna want any-color lands. You'd be surprised)
Horizon of Progress*** (3+ color decks are gonna want any-color lands. You'd be suprised) (The reason I added asterisks here and not the other 5 color lands is its ramp ability. You are running 40 lands so that ability will do work AND it's sac/draw ability will also be nuts in your deck. Did I mention it also taps for all 5 colors AND colorless too? Lol such a good land for you and in general)
Underground Mortuary*** (helps with graveyard, is fetchable)
Lush Portico*** (helps with graveyard, is fetchable)
Shadowy Backstreet*** (helps with graveyard, is fetchable)
CREATURES
(You want several more "play additional land'' effects in this deck. Believe me the deck will be way more powerful with a critical mass of these effects.)
ENCHANTMENTS
Necropotence***
Attrition*** (you have tokens out the wazoo to sac. this is also repeatable, reusable removal on a stick. even if your opponent has black creatures, its still a sac outlet.)
Grave Pact (double value if you have this AND attrition out. I would've put asterisks here too, but idk if you have enough sac outlets. Its good without sac outlets obviously, but with more it would be an auto-inlcude as opposed to a very solid suggestion)
Survival of the Fittest (would've put asterisks here too but you need roughly 25+ creatures before this is really worth running. This appears to be the case with most cedh decks that run this and it's also been my personal experience. This is a suggestion that you could include or ignore tbh.
ARTIFACTS
(RUN BOTH OF THESE!!! VERY IMPORTANT)
Conduit of Worlds*** (also gives you general recursion for every card in your deck except instants and sorceries)
SORCERIES
Ravages of War
****** (extra asterisks lol. This is a functional reprint of Armageddon. Doubles your chances of MLD!)
INSTANTS
Teferi's Protection (reason for this suggestion is it's heroic intervention #2 for the purposes of comboing with Armageddon/ravages of war. You'll destroy all lands on the board except your own. Be prepared for people to ragequit lmao.)
kamarupa on
Population Bomb
11 months ago
Nice work! I guess you really deserve some props, as I've seen plenty of people on here that aren't new list decks as certain formats but still include cards that aren't legal in that format. So that's why I asked.
In terms of advice, I probably have more than you want. For starters, I'm not sure a Populate/Tokens deck is going to be what I would consider "fast-paced." It may or may not keep up with a Goblin deck - it would really depend on the caliber of each deck and to a lesser degree, the player piloting that deck. When it comes to speed, I think of low MV infinite combos, burn, Elves, +1/+1 counter Humans... So if you're really looking for speed, then there may be better place to look.
That said, if it's not so much speed, but a tokens, and tokens that can maybe compete with a fast paced Goblin deck, I think that is probably possible. As it stands, it looks like you've got a fairly budget brew going, though I notice a few pricier spells in the sideboard. So I'll be mentioning both cheap and pricier spells and let you decide where you want to draw the line.
For starters, land is one of the best investments you can make. All decks need it and the better lands you have to choose from, the more solid your decks' foundations will be. In my opinion, there is no point in spending big bucks on spells when your land base can't consistently cast them. www.managathering.com is an awesome resource to find lands. It didn't exist when I first started brewing, but I go there all the time now, namely because I just can't remember all the card names like I used to, lol. Ideally, you want lands that don't enter tapped, especially if you're going for speed. If you can afford them, Temple Garden
& Windswept Heath are the perennial favorites. But Razorverge Thicket, Overgrown Farmland, and Branchloft Pathway
Flip are all decent. I recommend 22 lands for a "fast deck" - IE a deck with an Average MV of 2 or less (2.05 is close enough). Much greater than 2 average and I'd recommend 23-24 lands. Which stinks, I know, because the more land you include, the less spells you get and more likely you are to get mana screwed. But I've found that if you ever want to reliably cast spells that are 3 or more, you're going to need those extra few lands. Even with mana ramp, 16 is not enough land.
Typically, Artifact/Enchantment removal spells go in the sideboard. And typically, people run 4x creature removal in the mainboard: Any of the following would be good: Winds of Abandon, Sheltered by Ghosts, Path to Exile should be in the mainboard.
Druid's Deliverance is fun, but even in decks where I include Fog, I rarely include more than 1 copy. At double the MV, Druid's Deliverance is either going to tie up your mana (slowing you down), and/or delay instead of remove, and/or get cast just for the populate, which you already have spells for. So I'd suggest cutting it 1 copy.
Fight as One is... a decent spell. Heroic Intervention would be better. Since all but 1 of your creatures is white, Brave the Elements would be more versatile and cheaper and Tamiyo's Safekeeping is just cheaper. In my experience, 1 is the MV that is best for protection spells because it doesn't need as much mana to be available - that is - they're just more versatile. And I usually only include 1-2 of such spells.
I'd just cut Selesnya Charm. It just doesn't do anything that well and it's single use doesn't make it valuable enough to include.
Call of the Conclave is similar to Selesnya Charm - tokens aren't much about how big so much as how many. Repeatable token generators are going to be bigger threats than single-use spells.
The thing with Populate is that it doesn't really give you much oomph unless you've got bigger tokens. So you're not wrong looking for tokens that are on the bigger size. But since tokens are easy to get rid of and impossible to bring back, most people ignore the Populate mechanic altogether in favor of making lots of tokens as quickly as possible and at instant speed if they can.
Thraben Doomsayer is pretty good, though I do hate the 3MV casting cost. But you can make tokens at instant speed, which is great, and you can do it every turn.
Lingering Souls is one of the best token spells because you get so many for not that much mana, though you don't have the black mana here to make it worthwhile.
Tocasia's Welcome is great card draw for tokens, namely if you can create a token on your turn and your opponent's turn.
Creatures that care about ETB triggers are really good with tokens, too. You really can't go wrong with Soul Warden and/or Soul's Attendant - with 6+ Soul Sisters, I'd imagine a Goblin deck would find it very difficult to hit you for more life than they cause you to gain. And if you can gain enough life, Speaker of the Heavens gives you tokens that are worth Populating.
Growing Ranks is pretty good, but at 4MV,it's on the slow side.
Overrun is a good spell here, and I think you've got the right number.
Wake the Reflections is ok, I guess, but again, only copying 1 token just isn't as good as it might seem. At least it only costs you 1 to cast. The question is whether its actually powerful enough to be worth including, verses using that space for more token spells.
Something like Ephemerate or Cloudshift would probably be good with Hare Apparent
I like Finneas, Ace Archer, but I don't like it enough to overlook its Legendary status to run 4 copies.
Broad-stroke advice: 4x creature removal, 2x protection spell, 1x fog spell, 22x lands, 2-3x card advantage spell, 12x token generators, 8x ETB trigger spells. That leaves you with about 10 spells to lean into a mechanic like populate or more removal, etc, etc.
Please don't think what I write is definitive or that I'm insisting. Ignore whatever you want. I'm just throwing out my thoughts, hoping something might be useful for you.
Balaam__ on
White Green Life Gain
1 year ago
Any other dual land that enters untapped would be better than Temple of Plenty. ETB:Tapped is going to set you back, particularly in Legacy which is a very fast format. The obvious choices are all extremely expensive, but there are some cheap candidates that are worth a look. Branchloft Pathway Flip and Brushland come to mind as well as Overgrown Farmland or Sunpetal Grove. All of the above have little quirks but they’re much easier to fulfill and therefore put a dual land in play for immediate use.
ThassaUpYo@ssa on
Kros
1 year ago
For your strategy, I'd focus on either infect or +1/+1 counters since the list seems to be a bit "busy" with too much going on. Once you choose which way you'd like to take the deck, we can further tweak - proliferation will still be central to your overall plan.
Here are some suggestions by color that you might want to consider adding to your mainboard:
:
Heroic Intervention, Nature's Lore, The Great Henge, Three Visits.
:
Akroma's Will, Flawless Manuever, Smothering Tithe, Teferi's Protection, Trouble in Pairs.
:
Cyclonic Rift, Fierce Guardianship, Mana Drain, Swan Song.
I think you can get away with swapping out removing some counter spells as it seems a bit overkill - Cancel, Dispel, Envelop, Negate, and Nullify could probably come out in favor of Fierce Guardianship, Mana Drain, and Swan Song (the others could just be cut).
For your land base, I'd work the following lands in to help with your color wheel:
Fetch Lands: Flooded Strand, Misty Rainforest, Windswept Heath
Filter Lands: Flooded Grove, Mystic Gate, Wooded Bastion
Pathways Lands: Barkchannel Pathway Flip, Branchloft Pathway Flip, Hengegate Pathway Flip
Shock Lands: Breeding Pool, Hallowed Fountain, Temple Garden
Tri-Cycle Land: Spara's Headquarters
True Duals: Savannah, Tropical Island, Tundra
For mana rocks, I prefer the talismans over the signets:
Talisman of Curiosity, Talisman of Progress, Talisman of Unity
I think your Kros, Defense Contractor list is in a good spot, it just needs to be a little more focused.
TMMadsen on
Wolves of Armageddon
1 year ago
What do you think about possiably adding Weaver of Blossoms Flip to the deck and cutting down or out lambholt elder?
I think Weaver of Blossoms Flip is a bit costly on the mana-side. With Birds of Paradise, Scorned Villager Flip and Krallenhorde Howler Flip I'm doing pretty good for mana, so adding another mana-producer might be over the top. Lambholt Elder Flip packs quite a punch, and lets me draw cards which is awesome. I think, I'll try experimenting with replacing Birds of Paradise instead. They're missing the werewolf subtype, but they contibute with a lot of speed. The Weaver of Blossoms Flip however can be used in combat. Thank you for pointing me to this card!
Branchloft Pathway Flip for mana versitility.
I recently ordered a playset of Sunpetal Grove to improve mana versitility. I looked at Branchloft Pathway Flip, but they're quite costly where I live, and decided to go with Sunpetal Grove instead.
Thank you for the feedback.
Arrzarrina on
Roon Shenanigans
3 years ago
Planned Land Changes
- Treetop Village -> Branchloft Pathway Flip
- Vesuva -> Spara's Headquarters
- Dryad Arbor -> Seaside Citadel
Planned Flicker Changes
- Green Sun's Zenith -> Wall of Omens
- Threats Undetected -> Wall of Blossoms
- Gilded Lotus -> Farhaven Elf
- Yavimaya Elder -> Wood Elves
- Explore -> Mystical Tutor
- Turnabout -> Preston, the Vanisher
- Stroke of Genius -> Solemn Simulacrum
- Angel of Serenity -> Sun Titan
- Turnabout -> Emiel the Blessed
- Acidic Slime -> Reclamation Sage
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These changes are intended to streamline the deck by reducing the overall average cmc of the deck or reducing coloured pips in low cost spells. There's also a shift towards more ETB creatures rather than instants or sorceries for bread and butter effects.
Arrzarrina on
Roon Shenanigans
3 years ago
Planned Land Changes
- Treetop Village -> Branchloft Pathway Flip
- Vesuva -> Spara's Headquarters
- Dryad Arbor -> Seaside Citadel
Planned Flicker Changes
- Green Sun's Zenith -> Wall of Omens
- Threats Undetected -> Wall of Blossoms
- Gilded Lotus -> Farhaven Elf
- Yavimaya Elder -> Wood Elves
- Explore -> Mystical Tutor
- Turnabout -> Preston, the Vanisher
- Stroke of Genius -> Sun Titan
- Angel of Serenity -> Sun Titan
- Blue Sun's Zenith -> Solemn Simulacrum
- Turnabout -> Emiel the Blessed
- Acidic Slime -> Reclamation Sage
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These changes are intended to streamline the deck by reducing the
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