Talisman of Progress
Tap: Add (1) to your mana pool.
Tap: Add (White) or (Blue) to your mana pool. Talisman of Progress deals 1 damage to you.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Talisman of Progress occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
WU (Azorius): 1.62%
WUB (Esper): 0.86%
Talisman of Progress Discussion
3 days ago
crewchief88 Alela wants the Hall of Heliod's Generosity in there. not in Elsha. Alela is the artifact/enchantment chick in esper. So she really could use it more than Elsha can. I play tested your deck 6 times to turn 7 and only 1 time was i able to go off and win before then. That was turn 4 on a really good hand.
I would do some testing and working with the deck a little more, tweaking and ironing out the issues that you may have. (I noticed a HUGE problem with mana. You arent running signets, or all the talismans, so your fixing isnt there. That may be why you have some problems in the deck)
After further evaluation Library of Leng should not be in this deck. It's a cute card that does nothing for you right away in game. And discard decks are only if you are going against decks like Nath or Nekusar. (My baby Nath sadly can't keep up to my Elsha list.)
I think you rely too much on the effects of wheeling your way to a victory when you need to be letting Elsha do all the work man. She's a house. Throw in Rogue's Passage to sneak a few beats in there. Swiftfoot Boots is another card that she should be running to protect her. You don't want to give your opponents any opportunities to kill your commander when you are tapped out. Elsha, much like other storm decks, relies on the commander. For example: If Kess was not in play, the Grixis Kess Storm deck wouldn't function 100% of the time. I've done some testing on that.
Jeleva is the only one that wants to not be on the field 99% of the time unless shes attacking. Yidris storm REQUIRES Yidris to be on the field 100% of the time to win the game. Elsha is the same way. We need to be able to protect her at all costs.
Also, while I'm on the topic. SAY NO TO CODEX SHREDDER. It HAS TO GO. Its a cute card that if you want to win, you play around what people tutor. You know what they are tutoring well ahead of time so you can stop them with what counter magic you have.
You also don't care if they use Tabernacle because you only use 1 creature. Everythign else does value on ETB.
2 weeks ago
When WotC printed enemy-colored talismans in Modern Horizons, those cards had quotes from planeswalkers whose color identities matched the colors of mana that those talismans could produce.
Therefore, I wonder who would be quoted on the allied-colored talismans, if they were to be reprinted, so I wish to start a thread to ask about that.
Talisman of Dominance would most likely have a quote from Tezzeret, but Ashiok is also a possibility, as well.
Domri is the most logical planeswalker to be quoted on Talisman of Impulse, but Xenagos is another candidate, as well.
Tibalt is definitely the best match for Talisman of Indulgence.
Dovin is the perfect choice for Talisman of Progress.
Talisman of Unity would almost certainly have a quote from Ajani, since he focuses on unity and community.
What does everyone else say about this subject? Who would be quoted on the allied-colored talismans?
3 weeks ago
Really like the feel and flavor of this build! My only suggestions would be as follows:
This really doesn't appear to be a 'spells' sort of build, only having 20 Instant/Sorcery cards, so both Primal Amulet Flip and Baral, Chief of Compliance feel a bit out of place. Maybe consider replacing them with whichever of these you like most: Undead Warchief, God-Eternal Oketra, Gisa and Geralf, Sidisi, Undead Vizier, Fallen Shinobi, The Scarab God.
I believe Commander's Sphere is grossly overplayed and is a trap. If you really like the ability to draw a card (which seems like you'll be doing very well already) then maybe consider replacing it with either Mind Stone or Hedron Archive. If color fixing is of higher priority Talisman of Hierarchy, Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Progress or Gilded Lotus are great replacements.
As stated before, it seems as though drawing cards won't an issue. Plus having a yard full of goodies might be useful, so Dig Through Time may be a bit redundant if not a straight up non-bow. Replacing it with one of the unused creatures mentioned above may possibly be a better use for that card slot.
Hope these thoughts/suggestions help.
1 month ago
Lol — yeah, Contamination would be brutal. You may want to consider cards like Talisman of Progress , Dimir Signet etc. to help improve your ramp. In general I think 3-mana mana-rocks are overrated, since a 2-drop rock will let you cast your general turn 3.
You might also want to consider Copy Artifact , if you have the budget for it. I’ve been very impressed with it.
1 month ago
Wholesale Changes. CMC = 2.41 pre-changes
- Riddlesmith >> Emry, Lurker of the Loch
- Accorder's Shield >> Everflowing Chalice
- Spellbook >> Mishra's Bauble
- Welding Jar >> Altar of the Brood
- Pyrite Spellbomb >> Arcane Signet
- Grinding Station >> Golem's Heart
- Izzet Signet >> Talisman of Creativity
- Azorius Signet >> Talisman of Progress
- Boros Signet >> Talisman of Conviction
- Clock of Omens >> Mystic Forge
- Myriad Landscape >> Rogue's Passage
- Terramorphic Expanse >> Inventors' Fair
- Island >> Ancient Den
- Island >> Darksteel Citadel
- Island >> Seat of the Synod
- Mountain >> Great Furnace
- Ral Zarek >> Ugin, the Ineffable
- Dance of the Manse >> Saheeli, Sublime Artificer
- Gravitic Punch >> Tezzeret the Seeker
- Makeshift Munitions >> Brainstorm
- Sphinx's Revelation >> Swan Song
CMC = 2.46 post changes
1 month ago
For cEDH level, I'd recommend putting in:
Mystic Remora for additional card draw
Vampiric Tutor for your instant generic tutor and Imperial Seal if you can afford it. Lim-Dul's Vault is also a good tutor/pile maker and Merchant Scroll can search Dramatic Reversal and any counterspell/blue removal spell.
With the banning of Paradox Engine , Despark does not have many relevant targets. In fact, I'd say it's only niche to reanimator targets or any other big creatures that get cheated out, which is VERY dependent on your meta.
Arcane Denial is something I'd only find not bad if it's literally used to protect your win con on the turn that you're going to win; otherwise, you just netted your opponent over you. This one's up to you but I'd rather not play it.
1 month ago
I mean, the easiest way to improve the deck as I see it is to improve the mana situation, both in the lands and in the rocks. For the lands, I suggest cutting one or two, since if you play more rocks (see below) you'll play faster and still have all the mana you need. Fetch lands (like Scalding Tarn or Windswept Heath ) are the easiest way to improve your mana consistency, but unfortunately they tend to be prohibitively expensive. I suggest running more duals like Shivan Reef , Battlefield Forge , Sea of Clouds , etc. instead of your ETB tapped lands like Mystic Monastery .
With regards to rocks, you're already running two of the best ones ( Sol Ring and Arcane Signet ). However, I've never liked 3-mana mana-rocks like Chromatic Lantern or Jeskai Banner , since in my experience things like Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Creativity , Fellwar Stone etc. are simply better. I'd advise increasing the number of cheap (CMC<=2) mana rocks in your deck, as well as cutting one or two basic lands for the same number of cheap rocks. This'll both speed up your deck in the first few turns AND increase the number of hits you get from your general's attack trigger.
Speaking of the attack trigger, consider Strionic Resonator . I play it in my Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger deck, and I've found it to be a pretty good way to press an advantage. Being able to see 8 cards rather than 4 with Narset, Enlightened Master 's trigger seems pretty good.
Depending on your personal theory of ethics, you may wish to consider mass land destruction (MLD) as another method of winning. I personally have no problem with it, but some people might not like it. Anyway, if you want to go that route you should run Armageddon , Cataclysm and (potentially since it's about $100) Ravages of War . Note that Jokulhaups doesn't really work, since it'll kill your general, too.
Wear / Tear is, I think, an auto-include in any deck including Boros colors. It's an extremely efficient method of spot removal.
I've always loved Dack Fayden in EDH. He steals rocks, loots you to where you need to be, and only costs three mana... If you have access to him, I highly advise including him.
Preordain is a good cantrip on par with your Brainstorm and Ponder . While it is admittedly less powerful when it comes to leaving a card you want to cast with Narset on top of your library (since you'd have to scry both to the top), it is a powerful enough turn 1 play that I think you should run it anyway. I have frequently found one-land hands keepable on account of cantrips, and running Preordain will make it that much more likely for you to hit a good opening 7.
The last card I want to mention is Proteus Staff . If you cut all the creatures in your deck except your general (which I honestly think you should strongly consider doing), you can use Proteus Staff to reorder your entire deck. The way it works is this: second main phase, after you've attacked with Narset, Enlightened Master and (hopefully) gotten an extra turn coming to you, you target Narset with the staff's ability. That tucks her to the bottom of your deck, but then immediately finds her again and puts her into play (since she's the only creature in your deck). Because Proteus Staff says to put the other revealed cards on the bottom of your library IN ANY ORDER, you can then put all the other cards in your deck in any order you wish (since your whole deck has been revealed). That means you can stick 4 extra turn spells on top, cast them during your extra turn, rinse and repeat.
Good luck! Hope this helps.
1 month ago