As Kindred Discovery enters the battlefield, choose a creature type.
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Kindred Discovery Discussion
8 hours ago
Hey! I've trying some changes like the mass reanimation version and I liked a lot. Bot noticed some problems with this version. Teneb, the Harvester is versatile and very interesting dragon/reanimator, but it needed of having haste and mana to user it's ability, so I don't think it will be very useful. Otherwise, great spells like Patriarch's Bidding and Haunting Voyage works nicely, but almost all time suffer some type of counter. To deal with this response, I used counters on deck too, like Mana Drain, Counter spell, Cryptic Command and Negate, to guarantee the use of the big reanimate spells. Also, counters helps to deal with spells like removals, specially when Sneak Attack is dropped down in the table. As you can see, the real deal of this changes was what cards needed to cut off to include counters. I removed Teneb, Klauth's Will, Sarkhan the Masterless (Because when you have a lot of dragons, he becames useless at some point), Sarkhan's Unsealing (needed to cut off), Kindred Discovery (needed to cut off), as example. I'll do more tests, but add counters resolves a lot of problems with enchantments and some stuffs on the field. Maybe I consider to add Heroic Intervention or Swan Song, but you know... ^^" We need more spots hahaha
3 weeks ago
Ah, Dimir. Blue-black is where you come to turn an opponent’s soul these exact colors, sidestepping their defenses in order to slip a scalpel right in their feels. Combining the thematic terror of black with all the manipulations of blue, if you think about it, is one of the most disturbing, creepy tactics in magic. Forget psychological warfare: blue-black is about marinating the psyche of your opponent in anxiety, slow-roasting it over the fires of depression, lathering it in the sauce of their own inadequacy, and finally feeding them their own deliciously barbecued will to live. Think I'm exaggerating? Consider these titles. Glimpse the Unthinkable. Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver. Freaking Brainbite!!!
If you think this comes from a place of dislike, think again. I have a deep affection for this nasty little mix. Making opponents flip their collective gourds in a sporting way makes me very, very happy. Today, we’ll be going over three primary themes of commanders who embody Dimir chicanery: Mill, Rogues, and Theft. As always, please bear in mind the point isn’t to discuss the competitive but rather to celebrate the thematic.
The magic equivalent of memory loss, mill suffers in commander: eating through 99 cards is a tall order, and opponents with an original eldrazi titan somewhere in there may well fetch you the worst insult of all and ignore you. There are ways around that, of course, but this is an inarguably uphill climb. Which, of course, makes for a delightful challenge the Dimir will gleefully help you meet. Just ask Nemesis of Reason. It’s very, very hard to protect one’s library, and there’s something truly horrible in watching all your goodies piff away without even hitting your hand.
If you’ve read this series through, you might remember that my oldest deck is mono-green. It’ll be no surprise to you, then, that when I was learning commander I lived in abject horror of Oona. Anyone running a mono-colored deck is going to feel targeted by this hideously nasty commander. Do you even need a strategy to play her, beyond ramp? Honestly, she rather plays herself: even outside her chosen prey, “Exile X” on a stick is very, very spicy, and when you’ve got your chosen prey they may well scoop when you play Kindred Discovery. Remember those eldrazi? Screw those eldrazi.
Hail the mighty poo beetle. No, it doesn’t actively mill, but HOLY BALLS OF ROLLING SHIT does it reward milling! There is a fine, fine pool of zombies in dimir colors, and when that palls you can make your own. I’ve never seen this played, but to be honest I don’t want to, especially since the mighty poo beetle will always be five mana… maybe I want to see this played. By me. Scry X? Bleed X? Army of the Damned, anyone?
Now this is general damage. This is also, in my opinion, a genuinely bad idea for those who aim for winning rather than fun. Seven mana for a 5/5 flyer who doesn’t actually do damage to opponents? Less than competitive, shall we say, but certainly neat and themey. Stuff like Dauthi Voidwalker or Leyline of the Void do nothing to undermine Szadek’s growing spree, and embiggening this already self-embiggening boi could make for a very, very scary board presence. And seeing this work, making this work, would be undeniably fun.
I say ‘rogues’ not as the creature type, but as the overall concept of sneaky sneaks sneaking off to perpetrate sneakiness. See Rogue Class or Dimir Cutpurse and you’ll get where I’m coming from. Dimir is the guild of spies and intrigue, so it’s no surprise that blue-black rewards the “Doink! Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk” playstyle. If your passion drives you toward little bodies that pilfer, plunder, or otherwise profit on the swing, look no further.
Zareth is an odd choice to be commander. He functionally has Ninjutsu, but unlike a certain upcoming favorite has no provision for command zones. If you like thinking around corners, there is actually a fair bit of support to be found. Run an aura theme, for instance, and stick Necromancer's Magemark on a spare dude. Or Phantom Wings on the man himself. Zareth will reward you, and as for the second half of his text, it’s a doozy. Mill/kill your opponent’s stuff, then steal it. Good times.
This is a heavily themed card, combining tribal, milling, and draw elements in a nice little vampiric package. Not quite the unpleasant beast that the original Anowon is, but still nice. Be sure to include Notorious Throng.
Instead of a profitable army of petty thugs, you may prefer just the one guy. For actual command damage, Szadek’s replacement has an inarguably better grasp of the job. Mill yourself. You know you can. Clone yourself an unblockable midget, then switch into a Phyrexian Dreadnought (or something similarly large but more affordable) before you tag them. This guy is an absurdly versatile toolkit. Just avoid jerks with Lignify. Hehehe…
We’ve talked thieves, now let’s talk actual yoink. Blue and black are the only colors with access to consistent, long-term swipage, and combining them inevitably brings you to a natural conclusion: why make a plan when you can steal someone else’s?
Keiga, the Tide Star called. She’s pressing charges on the grounds of copyright infringement. Dragon? Check. Six mana? Check. Theft? Big ol’ check. When combined with blink and a sac outlet, this big and greedy cheese can steal an army. And, if you do this to a super-friends player, maybe lose you a friendship.
This guy’s just neat, especially if there’s some cocky twit in your local meta who likes taking extra turns. Mill him a bit, then tag him. He’ll stop that right quick. Bonus points if you get somebody to make a custom version of this guy as a certain cosmic entity. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh, Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
Do you like Sen Triplets, but not artifacts, white, or being thrown out of playgroups? Xanathar doesn’t pilfer hands, but libraries are fair game. The utility of certain tutors is suddenly very, very much in the eye of the beholder (sorry, I had to). Run stuff like Thoughtpicker Witch, Painful Memories, or Sealed Fate, and enjoy your monopoly on topdecks… I kind of want this one too.
And, for my personal favorite...
My darling, dearest Yuriko. Readers know my love for Kamigawa, so imagine my roaring delight when this beauty was released. There are 346 rogues currently in print. There are only 22 ninjas, and not all of them are good, but even the piddliest ninja becomes horrifying when Yuriko is out (and thanks to ninjutsu, she’s ALWAYS out). There’s a weird imbalance encouraged here: lots of inexpensive bodies digging for absurdly expensive spells. At the worst, you draw some cards. At absolute best, you smack the table for eleven damage by revealing Temporal Trespass… which you then cast for three mana, you magnificent bastard.
That's it for this round. Thoughts and questions are welcome. I hope you enjoyed it, and will come back next week for Rakdos!
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Tinnuki Thank you! I definitely will! Love seeing what others do with their decks with commanders I also use.
I totally forgot about Stolen by the Fae , have a few copies of it too. I think I might have had it in this deck way back when I first built it but took it out because the deck was running too slow. A lot of the tap lands have been replaced so I think it's time it can go back in again. Coat of Arms is a card I'm currently borrowing from my partner for my Bat Tribal deck (which badly needs it more lol), but eventually I will get a copy of that for both Bats and Faeries. :)
Kindred Dominance and Kindred Discovery would be amazing additions, hopefully they get some reprints soon! Pretty much any time lately I've been spending more on a card (anything $10-20+) I've been trying to get various desired reserve list cards knocked off the list first (which I am really glad I did for Liege of the Hollows and Deranged Hermit for a different deck because those spiked like mad recently).
Faerie Tauntings could come out to be honest, I had it in here since it was a cheap enchantment that would trigger Alela's ability and because it was on theme. Unless Vedalken Orrery is out, it really doesn't do much.
Thanks again for so many suggestions! It's quite helpful to have another pair of eyes for a fresh perspective, much appreciated!
4 months ago
Cool Faerie tribal! I have a faerie-based Alela deck as well, although mine is much more of an enchantress deck than yours is. Feel free to check it out!
Couple suggestions: I think you'd enjoy Stolen by the Fae for some easy tokens, and some more tribal glue like Coat of Arms (or perhaps Kindred Dominance or Kindred Discovery if your budget will allow it) would be nasty in a deck like this.
One question though, as cool of a card Faerie Tauntings is, I feel like you don't have enough instants or flash cards to truly take advantage of it. Am I just not seeing a secret synergy somewhere?
4 months ago
Boki92 thanks for the comment! The other "budget" deck that I have listed is mainly the cards that used to be in this one.
1) I'd probably start with this deck and downgrade individual cards that you aren't looking to purchase yet. There are budget versions of most cards on this list. There are loads of cheap dragons, that are still good but a little higher CMC, so I'd replace those first. Then look at what other replacement effects you can have. If you sort my list by "Custom" you should see the categories I've placed them in. To give you an idea of my reasoning, in the removal category I upgraded Sarkhan's Unsealing to Terror of the Peaks just because it's a dragon too so there is more synergy, but it still sits in "Removal"
2) IMHO colour fixing/ramp should be kept but there are budget options. I saw a huge improvement after swapping the usual basic land ramp package for Nature's Lore , Three Visits and Skyshroud Claim because they fetch the Triomes (get Ketria Triome if you are only getting 1) but there are some really good budget options for dual lands with the Forest type, like the Battle Lands and Cycling Duals here: https://www.mtglands.com/subtypes-forest.html. Also The World Tree is excellent so try and keep that.
The core of the deck is really built around Cheap Dragons so, although expensive, cards like Morophon, the Boundless , Urza's Incubator and Herald's Horn are key. The cards in the "Support" category are also pretty budget friendly and you could swap out Kindred Discovery for Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner .
Let me know if you have any questions and if you would like me to checkout your decklist once you add one then just let me know!
Have fun :)